The aperture on a 85/1.4 lens is slightly over 60mm, so 67mm filter is theoretically possible, but likely at the expense of cats eye bokeh in large parts of the frame.
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Canon Officially Announces the RF 20mm f/1.4L VCM and RF-S 14-30mm f/4-6.3 IS STM PZ
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You are optimistic.
It will be $3K USD.
Just due to market share, Canon would sell more than Nikon.
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That was another reason I suggested 85/1.4. That's how they teased the 70-200 Z and the 24 and 50mm VCM lenses, where there was only the 24-105 Z and 35/1.4 VCM.
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Regarding size, the EF 85/1.4 is 105 mm long, as is the EF 35/1.4 II. The current VCM lenses are 99-100 mm long. Not really seeing a design problem there.
Looking at the CN-E lineup, the 85/T1.3 is 200 g heavier than the 24/35/50, so it seems that's an acceptable difference for the longer focal length.
The EF 85/1.4 is 950 g. I suspect Canon could shave ~200 g off that. They have already shown that's possible, the EF 35/1.4L II is 760 g and the RF 35/1.4L VCM is 555 g. So, an RF 85/1.4L VCM weighing 750 g makes perfect sense: 200 g heavier than the other lenses in the set like the cine primes, 200 g lighter than the EF version as they did already for the 35/1.4.
No magic required.
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Sometimes the funding of the manicures, pedicures, paint, clothes etc., is worth it. Sometimes it isn't.
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The 85mm f/2 is heavier because it includes image stabilization and semi-macro capabilities. A standard 85mm f/1.8 can be under 400 grams nowadays while still delivering good image quality.
One of the core concepts of the VCM lineup is maintaining a similar weight and balance, allowing for easy switching on a gimbal. I doubt they would make it 200 grams heavier than the others.
That said, a good 85mm f/1.4 lens doesn’t have to weigh 750 grams anymore. Look at the Sigma DG DN or the Sony GM Mark II—they’re both under 700 grams. My Samyang RF 85mm f/1.4 is even under 600 grams. The image quality is decent, but the coating is lacking (which obviously wouldn’t be an issue for Canon).
However, a 67mm filter thread is really tricky. Only the Sirui Aurora manages it, but it's too soft and doesn’t meet Canon’s standards.
I'm really afraid they'll give us an 85mm f/1.8. It would be easy to make it 67mm, fixing some of the issues with the 85mm f/2, like slow autofocus and lack of weather sealing, so videographers would still have enough reason to buy it. This way, they can keep pushing people toward the RF 85mm f/1.2 while leaving room to sell us an 85mm f/1.4 later.
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As I pointed out, the same logic applies (even more so, in fact) to the CN-E lenses and the 85/1.3 is 200 g heavier than the 24/35/50mm CN-E primes.
Not that tricky. The EF 85/1.2 isn’t the sharpest optic, but it takes a 72mm filter for its calculated 70.8mm aperture diameter. The EF 135/2 is a very sharp optic, and uses a 72mm filter for the calculated 67.5mm aperture. So I think Canon can use a 67mm filter for the calculated 60.7mm aperture of an 85/1.4. Particularly since digital correction the corners is now the norm.
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Yes, a 60mm iris still makes it technically possible, so I’m hoping it happens. I’d be happy to replace my two cheap third-party 85mm f/1.4 lenses (which are obviously imaginary to cope with Sony's superiority—everyone knows third-party lenses don’t even exist for Canon RF). But the 85mm f/1.8 patent still worries me.
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I think the problem with it being f/1.8 is putting the red ring on it. The 28-70/2.8 has L-series optical quality (Canon states) and weather sealing, but it’s not L presumably because of the 24-70/2.8L.
The EF 85/1.4L means Canon would lose face with an RF 85/1.8L. Going up (EF 50/1.4 to RF 50/1.4L) is fine. Going down (EF 85/1.4L to RF 85/1.8L), no.
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I checked the Sigma 85mm f1.4 e-mount. It seems possible to make the same size and weight.
Canon RF50mm f1.4
76.5 x 99.3 mm
580g
Sigma 85mm f1.4
82.8 x 96.1 mm
630g
I didnt check sigma because I checked Sony is bigger and heavier. I have never thought Sigma is smaller than Sony 85mm
Canon RF50mm f1.4
76.5 x 99.3 mm
580g
Sigma 85mm f1.4
82.8 x 96.1 mm
630g
I didnt check sigma because I checked Sony is bigger and heavier. I have never thought Sigma is smaller than Sony 85mm
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I would really like to know where you can find the prices you named in Europe:
"The 50mm f1.4 VCM currently costs 1,250.00€.
The 35mm f1.4 VCM can be found for 1.300.00€" ????
So, please tell us where you'd get such heavy discounts...
Not even the most generous grey market retailers sell them for less than 1600 euros...
Maybe you also know that a 21mm f/1,4 is more complex to make (cost of special glass etc...) than a 50mm that sells in much higher quantities.
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