Canon PowerShot G1 X II Thoughts from CP+

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<p>Reviewed.com has their camera staff at CP+ in Tokyo and have taken some time to write a pretty extensive preview of the <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1028804-REG/canon_9167b001_powershot_g1x_mark_ii.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296" target="_blank">Canon PowerShot G1 X II</a>. On the surface, they appear very positive about the camera. Keep in mind, these thoughts are without actual real world image samples and usability tests.</p>
<p><strong>Some thoughts from reviewed.com</strong>

<em>“The retooled Canon PowerShot G1 X Mark II is a clear shot at the Sony Cyber-shot RX100 II—a camera that currently enjoys an undisputed reign atop the pocket cam hierarchy. And in some key specs, the Canon is a superior offering. Its lens is both brighter and has more reach, and the sensor’s a lot bigger, too. All of that ought to translate to higher image quality, especially in low light.”</em></p>
<p><strong><a href="http://cameras.reviewed.com/content/canon-powershot-g1-x-mark-ii-first-impressions-review" target="_blank">Read the full article</a> | <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1028804-REG/canon_9167b001_powershot_g1x_mark_ii.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296" target="_blank">Canon PowerShot G1 X II at B&H Photo</a></strong></p>
<p><em>image credit: reviewed.com</em></p>
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[Triggyman]

Tempting camera to get - I've been looking for a smaller camera just to take with me and enjoy taking pictures with. However the price tag is too steep for me, I think this will appeal to consumers who have more money to spare - so I think I'm not part of the market Canon has set its sights on

 

[traveller]

The point of owning an RX100 is its "pocketability"; that's not to say that the G1X II won't fit in a pocket, just that the size of the pocket will need to be larger. The G1X II is actually larger than the full frame RX1 in most dimensions, though it is slightly shallower over the lens (the body itself is a bit chunkier).

 

[Loswr]

The point of owning an RX100 is its "pocketability"; that's not to say that the G1X II won't fit in a pocket, just that the size of the pocket will need to be larger.

Yeah - I don't really consider something to be 'pocketable' if I'm required to wear a coat or cargo pants to have a sufficiently large pocket. By that definition, in at least one of my coats the 1D X + 40/2.8 is also 'pocketable'.

 

[Albi86]

Am I the only one who is more excited about Canon finally getting into EVFs than for the G2X itself?

Nice camera though. Unfortunately here in EU the price will be around 650€. Too much for me to consider it a sensible investment.

 

[ajndesign]

It seems the thing that this review marks as a disapointment, being bigger than the RX100, is a pro for me! I've tried the RX100 II and found it to be too small and fiddly! I like to have something substantial in my hand, and it is still tiny compared to a DSLR and lens.
The G1x Mark II wins for me, despite its price!

 

[dickgrafixstop]

The G1X-II looks to me to be a collossal waste of time and money for Canon development. If they had wanted to
hit a home run, they should have used M lenses, priced it at $499.00 and pushed it as a new mirrorless system.
Now they just have two turkeys on their hands and will have a hard time selling either.

 

[pdirestajr]

This camera is way more interesting to me than an M. I don't want to have to invest into another lens system & the 24-120 built-in lens on this looks pretty rad! The price will drop a bit once all the G1X models are gone.

 

[Albi86]

This camera is way more interesting to me than an M. I don't want to have to invest into another lens system & the 24-120 built-in lens on this looks pretty rad! The price will drop a bit once all the G1X models are gone.

A pointed disputed by the fact that EOS-M + 18-55 + 20 pancake is still cheaper than the G2X.

 

[traveller]

The point of owning an RX100 is its "pocketability"; that's not to say that the G1X II won't fit in a pocket, just that the size of the pocket will need to be larger.

Yeah - I don't really consider something to be 'pocketable' if I'm required to wear a coat or cargo pants to have a sufficiently large pocket. By that definition, in at least one of my coats the 1D X + 40/2.8 is also 'pocketable'.

I've never come across a coat that would comfortably be able to fit a 1D-series in its pocket; I'm sure they exist, depending on your definition of "comfortable". My old G12 felt very big and bulky in my coat pocket and the G1X II is even bigger; at least it is far more capable camera. Besides, if you lived in Britain you'd find that you were pretty much "required" to wear a coat for 90% of the year anyway.

 

[pdirestajr]

This camera is way more interesting to me than an M. I don't want to have to invest into another lens system & the 24-120 built-in lens on this looks pretty rad! The price will drop a bit once all the G1X models are gone.

A pointed disputed by the fact that EOS-M + 18-55 + 20 pancake is still cheaper than the G2X.

You're comparing a pre-order price to a close out price.

 

[traveller]

The G1X-II looks to me to be a collossal waste of time and money for Canon development. If they had wanted to
hit a home run, they should have used M lenses, priced it at $499.00 and pushed it as a new mirrorless system.
Now they just have two turkeys on their hands and will have a hard time selling either.

Really? I think that if you took the lens off this camera, it would be pretty ordinary. What would be the advantages over the current EOS M2? (assuming you can get your hands on one!)

 

[ajndesign]

This camera is way more interesting to me than an M. I don't want to have to invest into another lens system & the 24-120 built-in lens on this looks pretty rad! The price will drop a bit once all the G1X models are gone.

I'm glad someone thinks the same as me! People keep on about how an M is cheaper and all the other M43 cameras are cheaper etc etc... What they don't seem to get is that there are people out there who DON'T WANT a camera with separate lenses!
I am willing to pay extra for the G1X II so I don't have the hassle of separate lenses.
Anyway, a M43 camera may be cheaper to start with, but there will then be a need to buy other lenses. So for me at least, the G1X II is more or less my ideal camera!

 

[smozes]

After owning the s90 I stopped believing there's such a thing as a pocketable compact.

Even that camera was not comfortable to walk around with or store along with anything else in a pocket. I can't imagine what it's like to walk around with the RX100 in your pant pocket.

 

[WoodyWindy]

This is definitely on my short list as my SX100 IS take everywhere cam replacement, though the true successor (SX700 HS) announced at the same time is also tempting...

 

[traveller]

After owning the s90 I stopped believing there's such a thing as a pocketable compact.

Even that camera was not comfortable to walk around with or store along with anything else in a pocket. I can't imagine what it's like to walk around with the RX100 in your pant pocket.

The G12 was far worse, even in my jacket pocket it felt like I was carrying a brick.

On a different note, I was watching one of the Canon preview videos and it looks like the G1X MkII retains the same crappy menu structure as the rest of the G-series; why can't they bring the high end Powershots into line with EOS, so we wouldn't have to learn a whole new system?

 

[biggiep]

This camera is way more interesting to me than an M. I don't want to have to invest into another lens system & the 24-120 built-in lens on this looks pretty rad! The price will drop a bit once all the G1X models are gone.

A pointed disputed by the fact that EOS-M + 18-55 + 20 pancake is still cheaper than the G2X.

And your point is disputed by the fact that the EOS-M tops out at 55mm at the long end with a lame f/3.5-5.6 aperture.

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

The point of owning an RX100 is its "pocketability"; that's not to say that the G1X II won't fit in a pocket, just that the size of the pocket will need to be larger. The G1X II is actually larger than the full frame RX1 in most dimensions, though it is slightly shallower over the lens (the body itself is a bit chunkier).

Yeah for me I always use a DSLR unless I need something truly pocketable. I don't personally see the point of something half-way, if it's not truly, utterly pocketable it won't get used since I'd be using either something pocketable or a DSLR.

So for me it's RX100 II + DSLRs.

 

[bholliman]

This camera is way more interesting to me than an M. I don't want to have to invest into another lens system & the 24-120 built-in lens on this looks pretty rad! The price will drop a bit once all the G1X models are gone.

A pointed disputed by the fact that EOS-M + 18-55 + 20 pancake is still cheaper than the G2X.

And your point is disputed by the fact that the EOS-M tops out at 55mm at the long end with a lame f/3.5-5.6 aperture.

An this point is disputed by the fact that the G1 X II has a fixed lens and the EOS-M in an interchangeable lens camera. Granted the current EF-M mount lens options are limited (currently 3), but with the EOS adapter, all EF and EF-S lenses can be used with the EOS-M, so a huge range of potential focal lengths and apertures.

Note the G1 X II lens is 24-120mm 35mm film (FF) equivalent . With the 1.92 crop factor, the lenses aperture is FF equivalent to f/3.8-7.5, not exactly fast! You can use a f/1.2 or 1.4 primes on the EOS-M and for FF equivalent apertures of f/2 to f/2.2, something the G1XII can't get close to.

The larger APS-C sensor (1.6 crop factor) on the M also should have better resolution and IQ than the 1.92 crop factor sensor in the G1XII, although I haven't seen any test data on the new sensor yet.

All factors considered, the EOS-M has lots more to offer than the G1 X II for less than 1/2 the cost.

 

[melbournite]

The point of owning an RX100 is its "pocketability"; that's not to say that the G1X II won't fit in a pocket, just that the size of the pocket will need to be larger. The G1X II is actually larger than the full frame RX1 in most dimensions, though it is slightly shallower over the lens (the body itself is a bit chunkier).

Yeah for me I always use a DSLR unless I need something truly pocketable. I don't personally see the point of something half-way, if it's not truly, utterly pocketable it won't get used since I'd be using either something pocketable or a DSLR.

So for me it's RX100 II + DSLRs.

Me too. I bought the 100D/SL1 thinking I could use it as a 'pocketable' to my DSLR's but when I used and tested a RX100II, I bought two (one for a wedding gift) and sold the 100D/SL1 (and my Lumix LX3). Now 'pocketable' is a very loose term and even the RX100II doesn't fit in my jean pocket but it does fit in my man bag without taking up all the space that the 100D did.