Canon smarter than we think

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V8Beast said:
Bosman said:
This may help you decide since this is a thread of 1D4 users talking up the 5d3 as better in focus.
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/archive/index.php/t-1163659.html

Wow, those are some very impressive images in that link. I have much to learn about the 5DIII's new AF system :)

I went through the images too - I suspect the quality is down to the individual rather than the kit.

From (only a little) experience I saw only minor differences between the AF of the 1D4 and the 5dIII. The posters only comment on th missed shots - however at 10fps they would have more good images as well. As a default I have the 1D4 on low burst speed and hardly get any missed shots.

With a 400 f/2.8 it is hard (when handholding) to keep the focus point in the right place at all times with fast moving objects - I miss quite a few even with the 70-200@200 but looking where the AF point is verifies it is my fault :( and it is doubly hard with the 400. Taking shots at lower fps gives the human more of a chance to get the AF point in the right place.
 
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briansquibb said:
I went through the images too - I suspect the quality is down to the individual rather than the kit.

I'd have to agree. For every 1 time I blame my gear for poor results, I blame myself 99 times :)

Regardless of which body has the better AF system, I'm just thrilled that the 5DIII's AF is good enough to even be compared to the 1DIV. I would have never dreamed of such a thing 3 months ago. For serious sports shooting, IMHO the 1DIV certainly has its advantages in terms of burst rate and a larger buffer.
 
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keithfullermusic said:
nehemiah said:
SomeGuyInNewJersey said:
nehemiah said:
I own a 7D, several primes, 2 L lenses, 2x583EX2's, Elinchrom 500W strobes, and now am buying the 5D3. But you know what? Still my coffee set up costs more than my photo gear put together.
That must be one expensive coffee machine!

Actually, for coffee what is considered most important (aside from fresh beans) is the quality of the grinder. This isn't the same grinder I have but I have a similar: http://www.chriscoffee.com/products/home/grinders/mazzer_super_jolly_electronic

Some of the best espresso machine 2017 will also easily cost more than the MD3.

Those are my two hobbies. I'm a coffeegeek and I like photography. Some day I hope to be good at both (I'm good at neither at the time).


Good lord you have some expensive hobbies.

I am also a coffee lover but instead of photography i love travelling. What are your other hobbies?
 
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x-vision said:
Hmm. While Canon did listen to users and did incorporate user feedback into the 5DIII, their strategy is not brilliant.
In fact, just the opposite.

Raising prices in the face of ever increasing completion is ... well, just dumb.

With mirrorless cameras increasing their share in the lower end of the market, the smart strategy for Canon (and Nikon) would be to move as many users as possible upmarket, where FF has a unique size advantage.

The 5DIII should have been announced at $2600 - a symbolic lowering of the price (compared to the 5DII), designed to make a switch to FF more attractive.

Instead, Canon raised the 5DIII price by 30%, effectively repositioning the 5DIII as a camera strictly for pros.

The problem is, pros have never been the core market of the 5D series.

In case there are doubts about Canon’s "brilliant" pricing strategy, just consider that the 5DII could not be found in stock for more than a year after it went on sale. In contrast, just a week after the 5DIII’s general availability, it is now in stock in many retailers:
http://instock.1001noisycameras.com/canon-5d-mark-iii-pre-orders/

It is very safe to say that just a week after general availability, supply is already outstripping demand for this camera.
Good luck to Canon as even more 5DIII’s are on their way to the stores.

If only Canon would hire a CEO with your vision... even as clouded as your vision seemed to be back in 2012 concerning the 5D Mark III. :o ::) ???
 
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CanonFanBoy said:
x-vision said:
Hmm. While Canon did listen to users and did incorporate user feedback into the 5DIII, their strategy is not brilliant.
In fact, just the opposite.

Raising prices in the face of ever increasing completion is ... well, just dumb.

With mirrorless cameras increasing their share in the lower end of the market, the smart strategy for Canon (and Nikon) would be to move as many users as possible upmarket, where FF has a unique size advantage.

The 5DIII should have been announced at $2600 - a symbolic lowering of the price (compared to the 5DII), designed to make a switch to FF more attractive.

If only Canon would hire a CEO with your vision... even as clouded as your vision seemed to be back in 2012 concerning the 5D Mark III. :o ::) ???

If only Canon had announced something that September, I dunno, something like a $2k enthusiast/prosumer full-frame body?!!
 
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Sharlin said:
CanonFanBoy said:
x-vision said:
Hmm. While Canon did listen to users and did incorporate user feedback into the 5DIII, their strategy is not brilliant.
In fact, just the opposite.

Raising prices in the face of ever increasing completion is ... well, just dumb.

With mirrorless cameras increasing their share in the lower end of the market, the smart strategy for Canon (and Nikon) would be to move as many users as possible upmarket, where FF has a unique size advantage.

The 5DIII should have been announced at $2600 - a symbolic lowering of the price (compared to the 5DII), designed to make a switch to FF more attractive.

If only Canon would hire a CEO with your vision... even as clouded as your vision seemed to be back in 2012 concerning the 5D Mark III. :o ::) ???

If only Canon had announced something that September, I dunno, something like a $2k enthusiast/prosumer full-frame body?!!

You mean like the 6D?
 
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