Canon to announce 5 new lenses on October 30

[neuroanatomist]

I threw up a little bit .....

When I hire someone, I give them the choice of a similarly-spec'd Mac or PC. We're about 60/40 Mac. My PC colleagues often join a Zoom meeting only to have their camera not work or their PC freeze, then they join from their phone to tell us they're rebooting their PC. For Teams meetings, the shoe is on the other foot (but Teams is a kludgy mess on either platform).

Not a lot of meaningful differences anymore, other than the interoperability between devices on the Apple platform and the specialized software that only runs on Windows (yes, VMs but no, those suck...when needed, e.g. with things like Tibco Spotfire, we run those server-side anyway and Mac users just connect remotely with Microsoft RDC).

 

[David - Sydney]

Your projects are much bigger than mine. My 4K videos are typically of short performances (<8 min). R3 files are smaller and I rarely come home with >1000 RAWs from a day’s shooting

Easy to leave my gopro running for the 2 hours of diving whilst I am shooting stills and then edit later for anything reasonable... I can switch from stills to video on the R5 but easy to have both wide (gopro) and macro (stills) in the some setup when I come across a bigger subject. Overkill video in some ways from a storage perspective... thankfully comes down to ~1GB of 4k video once I trim in Resolve.
Not unusual to come home with 2500-2900 images after a grading. Imagine if I had pre-capture!
I thought that 1TB would do me but now I wonder if 2TB will be sufficient in 4 years' time...

It’s a want more than a need. I typically run a Mac for 6-8 years, so more is usually better.

Agreed but I started to get a little twitchy after 4.5 years

I’ve never traded one in. So far, they’ve been handed down to family members, except for one of my kids’ 2019 MacBook Airs where the butterfly keyboard slowly failed to register key presses (after the recall period), then the display backlight started failing and the key caps started melting.

Thankfully I missed the butterfly keyboard issues as I had the last MBP that had lots of ports on it. My kids are >30 and have good jobs so they can look after themselves!

At some point soon, I’ll make up for not trading in Macs with a vengeance. I have a stack of 13” MBPs (8-9) bought for my employees but replaced with turnover, and once my IT contractor unenrolls them from the MDM, I’ll take them all in to my local Apple Store.

Apple doesn't lose money on the tradein program but it is simpler (similar to phones). They do drop in value each year of course.

 

[john1970]

That's a fair point and I'll consider it, thanks. The financials aren't much of a constraint for me (nice to have first world problems), the only concern I actually have about the Max chip is the reportedly higher level of fan noise at load compared to the Pro chip.

I am also considering a 14" M4 MacBook Pro and am leaning towards the Pro chip so the fans do not have to run as often at full load. I am currently using a 2020 M1 MacBook Air.

 

[Elmonducky]

I truly hope they come out with a 600 DO lens under $6500

 

[SvO2]

Personally I have no objective reason to upgrade my 16" M1 Mac (4TB / 64GB / M1 Max variant), it handles just about everything I would throw at a laptop and then some. My desktop might be due for an upgrade though- with the Ryzen 9950X3D and RTX 5090 due to come out early next year, that might be where I spend my monies.

 

[sanj]

25mm is an instant buy. The 70-200 will be given a good look. (I sold my 70-200 2.8 RF). Lets see what the 5th lens is..

 

[sanj]

RF 28mm f/1.4L... don't care about the focus motor.... But come on... 24 is too wide and 35 is boring

The EF 28mm sigma is one of the worst designed lenses ever made.

The difference between 24mm and 28mm is enormous. I don't get why Canon won't do it, The 28 mm on the Leica q series saved them.

Yes, I'll continue to cry.

Some of us want what you label 'too wide'. Some of us want a nice wide lens.

 

[neuroanatomist]

I am also considering a 14" M4 MacBook Pro and am leaning towards the Pro chip so the fans do not have to run as often at full load. I am currently using a 2020 M1 MacBook Air.

I suspect it's less of an issue for the 16" model than the 14" model, and for me the other difference is that I'm coming from an Intel i9 where the fans are always on (at low rpm) and spin up pretty frequently, whereas you're coming from a model with no fans at all. When I'm exporting RAWs from DxO, both fans go to over 5k rpm and it's pretty noticeable (but not especially bothersome, either).

As @Botts pointed out, the M4 Max will be more processing power than I will need almost all of the time. But the M4 Max is the best (at least for this year), and...

 

[Tony5787]

I’ve been using an M1 Max MBP since they first released them (think it was 2020 or 2021?) and initially I ordered the Pro instead of the Max. After upgrading the RAM and storage in the Pro the cost to upgrade to the Max was so insignificant that it was a no-brainer so I returned the Pro and went with the Max. Best laptop I’ve ever owned by far.

 

[Berowne]

I am not in the Apple-Business. Last time i remember to buy as appleish Computer was the Atari 1040 ST, Since then i purchase parts (MB, CPU all the stuff) and assemble by myself. Of course i am one or two days offline during all the bricolage - but who cares?

 

[Jethro]

I'm coming from an Intel i9

I'm still on an Intel i5 (27" iMac), which is decidedly starting to show it's age, and so one of this week's announcement will be for me. Just not sure which one - I think the Mac Minis are being announced tomorrow (the summary specs leaked briefly today on Amazon), so it's likely to be a Q of one of them (plus a nice big expensive 5k separate monitor) or a souped up new smaller iMac ...

 

[Canon Rumors]

When I hire someone, I give them the choice of a similarly-spec'd Mac or PC. We're about 60/40 Mac. My PC colleagues often join a Zoom meeting only to have their camera not work or their PC freeze, then they join from their phone to tell us they're rebooting their PC. For Teams meetings, the shoe is on the other foot (but Teams is a kludgy mess on either platform).

Not a lot of meaningful differences anymore, other than the interoperability between devices on the Apple platform and the specialized software that only runs on Windows (yes, VMs but no, those suck...when needed, e.g. with things like Tibco Spotfire, we run those server-side anyway and Mac users just connect remotely with Microsoft RDC).

I am not in the Apple-Business. Last time i remember to buy as appleish Computer was the Atari 1040 ST, Since then i purchase parts (MB, CPU all the stuff) and assemble by myself. Of course i am one or two days offline during all the bricolage - but who cares?

I'm with ya on desktop, anything prebuilt (outside of to-spec services) is second rate hardware for too much money.

Laptops are a bit tougher to get the same level of quality and they can cost a pile of money. They're usually reserved for people that want an actual "workstation" laptop. Everything from the big guys is pretty much all the same. I was looking at laptops on the weekend, I found 3 that were remotely interesting and they all cost too much! I'll just keep using what I have until it dies. I've spent too much adding/upgrading things.

 

[koenkooi]

I'm with ya on desktop, anything prebuilt (outside of to-spec services) is second rate hardware for too much money.
[…]

My previous employer designed and built their own server hardware, that gave me an appreciation for only including the things you need. No gazillion slow USB ports, no slow on-board NIC, no fake SATA ports that are actually port multipliers.
Software support for that so much easier, all the components were selected for having decent drivers and support.

I wish I could do that for the self-assembled computers at home! The few weeks of unemployment did give me the time to go over everything, clean all the components and remove things that aren’t needed anymore.

It’s more work, but I still enjoy doing it. And I know my desktop doesn’t need all that, since that’s a mac

 

[xmarijan]

Are you sure that RF-S 7.8mm f/4 STM is going to be released now?
Canon announced its development but not much time passed since then, i.e. not much time for manufacturing.

Is it possible that we might get different RF-S lens?

 

[phils.pix]

I just don't get Canon's decisions sometimes...
Wouldn't it be more important to finally release a fast and wide standard zoom lens for APS-C, like the 15-60 f/2.8 we've been talking about for nearly two years?
Intstead they come up with a niche product like the RF-S 7.8. Are they really thinking that there's a bigger market for lenses like this?
Like how many people, who bought the R50, R10, R7, care about recording VR Content for the Apple Vision Pro?

 

[Canon Rumors]

Are you sure that RF-S 7.8mm f/4 STM is going to be released now?
Canon announced its development but not much time passed since then, i.e. not much time for manufacturing.

Is it possible that we might get different RF-S lens?

They have to get it out for the 9 people that bought a Vision Pro.

I just don't get Canon's decisions sometimes...
Wouldn't it be more important to finally release a fast and wide standard zoom lense for APS-C, like the 15-60 f/2.8 we've been talking about for nearly two years?
Intstead they come up with a niche product like the RF-S 7.8. Are they really thinking that there's a bigger market for lenses like this?
Like how many people, who bought the R50, R10, R7, care about recording VR Content for the Apple Vision Pro?

APS-C isn't really going to be addressed until 2025 when the new cameras come to market. It's better to release lenses with camera bodies. Tomorrow's announcement is for the R52 and R1 (outside of the likely VR thing).

 

[Canon Rumors]

My previous employer designed and built their own server hardware, that gave me an appreciation for only including the things you need. No gazillion slow USB ports, no slow on-board NIC, no fake SATA ports that are actually port multipliers.
Software support for that so much easier, all the components were selected for having decent drivers and support.

I wish I could do that for the self-assembled computers at home! The few weeks of unemployment did give me the time to over everything, clean all the components and remove things that aren’t needed anymore.

It’s more work, but I still enjoy doing it. And I know my desktop doesn’t need all that, since that’s a mac

I love building them..... i'm also a 12 year old as far as RGB on my gaming machine. The next one I will finally go all water cooling.

 

[AlanF]

My previous employer designed and built their own server hardware, that gave me an appreciation for only including the things you need. No gazillion slow USB ports, no slow on-board NIC, no fake SATA ports that are actually port multipliers.
Software support for that so much easier, all the components were selected for having decent drivers and support.

I wish I could do that for the self-assembled computers at home! The few weeks of unemployment did give me the time to over everything, clean all the components and remove things that aren’t needed anymore.

It’s more work, but I still enjoy doing it. And I know my desktop doesn’t need all that, since that’s a mac

Can we persuade Canon to hire you (for a salary hike of course)?

 

[john1970]

I suspect it's less of an issue for the 16" model than the 14" model, and for me the other difference is that I'm coming from an Intel i9 where the fans are always on (at low rpm) and spin up pretty frequently, whereas you're coming from a model with no fans at all. When I'm exporting RAWs from DxO, both fans go to over 5k rpm and it's pretty noticeable (but not especially bothersome, either).

As @Botts pointed out, the M4 Max will be more processing power than I will need almost all of the time. But the M4 Max is the best (at least for this year), and...
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Agreed. The 16" model should have better thermal management without fans due to its larger size. This morning I saw on macrumors.com that the specs the Mac mini with the M4 Pro chip can have up to 14 cores CPU and 20 core GPU. In contrast, my M1 MacBook Air has 8 core CPU and a 10 core GPU. A significant upgrade in the number of cores alone. Another reason for the 14 inch is that some of my smaller bags cannot hold a 16" laptop.

 

[utisz1]

My credit card is all ready...for the new M4 MacBook Pros that are launching this week.

Unless that 5th lens is something interesting to me (a 200-500 would not be, unless it has a built-in 1.4x TC and is substantially smaller than my 600/4 II...and I don't see that as very likely even if a big white zoom is the 5th wheel lens announced).

Canon, where are my TS-R lenses?