I'd been toying with the idea of getting a Blackmagic Design Cinema 6K pocket camera.
Can some of you in the know compare and give the pros/cons between that and this EOC C70?
The BM camera can shoot RAW which I don't believe this one can, that would be a strike I'd think.
Do ya'll think RAW (internal or external) might be soon coming for the C70?
But if anyone has time off the top of their heads can you compare the BM with the Canon new offering here?
Which looks better to you and why?
Thanks in advance,
cayenne
I have the BMPCC 6K so I will take a swing at it.
The form factor for the C70 is mostly better. Because of the limitations of the BMPCC you have to do at least some rigging out in order to do any serious work. The first thing is the battery. I haven't even stopped to see how long I can shoot on the LP6N as the reviews were universally horrible so I went straight to a V mount.
The C70 has a flippy screen. It is so small as to be near useless but DPAF may be good enough to keep you from having to get an external monitor but I suspect if you are shooting outside you will need an external monitor. Depending on what you shoot you may not need a follow focus system for the C70, most people will atleast want one for the BMPCC.
Media is going to be a cost factor. BMD is miles ahead of every one else on this. I have a couple of 1TB T5s I swap out on the BMPCC and getting the data off the cards and into the computer is ridiculously easy. 2TB of cards for the C70 will probably cost more than the C70. The file size of BRAW is crazy small compared to even CLOG so you are going to be paying more for storage on your computer with the C70.
Dual phantom power mini XLRs on the C70 probably means you can leave the external recorder at home for interviews. The BMPCC has pretty good audio options as well but only a single mini XLR. I suspect the C70 doesn't support 32bit float and neither does the BMPCC but every cinema camera going forward should. Both support time code but the SDI on the C70 is more industry standard.
The Black Magic menus make Canons menus look like Sony's. They say the C70 has a new menu system, lets hope so but I suspect that just means they have added another green tab. The presets are awesome on the BMPCC but the physical buttons on the C70 are on a whole other level.
The built in ND filters on the C70 are huge. Add up the cost of a full set of NDs and possible a matte box for the BMPCC and you are talking real money.
The C70 will work much better on a gimbal. The form factor of the BMPCC is really bad for that.
Because of the RF mount the number of lenses you will be able to mount on the C70 will be considerably greater than what you can do with the BMPCC. The big one being PL mount where there are adapters for the the EF mount that the BMPCC 6K uses but they don't work with all PL mount lenses. Both cameras will use the IS in your lens if it has it. The C70 adds digital IS but I am not exactly thrilled with Canons digital IS on the R and usually turn it off. But in some cases it may mean not having to balance a gimbal or bust out the sticks.
Where the rubber meets the road is the sensor and I haven't shot on the C300 so I can't really compare but the difference in the sensor of the EOS R ( 5DIV sensor) vs the BMPCC was jaw dropping. If you deliver 2K the C70 will give you some extra room to straighten the horizon, crop etc. If you deliver in 4K then you will really miss the extra room you get from shooting 6K. It is hard to say what the situation will be with high frame rates on the C70.
So at the end of the day once you rig out the BMPCC you are getting pretty close to the price of the C70 if you don't need to rig the C70. I am guessing Smallrig and Tilta are going to make good money off people caging and rigging the C70s just not as much as they made with the BMPCC. The form factor of the C70 will be a lot less conspicuous than a fully rigged BMPCC so will draw a lot less attention from the camera cops. Do you need RAW and do you need a sensor greater than 4K? What are you shooting? If it is one man crew talking head or run and gun C70 is the likely answer. If you are shooting long form dramas the BMPCC.
If the C70 had been on the official Canon road map (snort) I probably wouldn't have jumped to Black Magic even though I am still harbouring a powerful hate for all the times Canon has F'd me over over the last few years. But now that I have moved over to Black Magic I am probably never coming back.
As for the Komodo yes you can buy it for a bit more than the C70. But you still need to rig out the Komodo and that will push it into another price bracket.