Canon Working on New EF 70-200 L Lens [CR2]

I hope they're not going to replace the 70-200 f4L. Currently in the UK this lens costs around £430 which makes it the cheapest L zoom. I am looking to pick up one or two of these for video work with my production company. The problem for me with a 70-200 f4L II would be the obvious price increase.
 
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to the aperture discussion...

k = f / D...

D is the diameter of the aperture. Is it divided by the square root of 2 it's basically 1/2 illumination, as the diameter goes in square for total surface of the aperture. On the other hand, D times square root of 2 results in the doubled surface of the aperture and doubled amount of light... so * 0,7 is one stop less and * 1,4 is one stop more.

My guess for the lens would be the 70-200 f/4. I am planning on purchasing on so I hope it will lower the price for the old or bring new features that make it worth buying the new one.
 
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GMCPhotographics said:
Aglet said:
they could remove, or better balance the aspherics to improve the nasty transition zone bokeh

The f4 LIS bokeh is a lot more pleasing than the f2.8 LIS II. Sure it's no ef 200mm f2.8 prime but it's still very nice.
yes, I suspect you're right about that. I had, and sold, all 3 of the 2.8s as they didn't deliver what I expected of them. I may have kept the f/4 IS for the size, mass, and IQ/$.
 
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Aglet said:
GMCPhotographics said:
Aglet said:
they could remove, or better balance the aspherics to improve the nasty transition zone bokeh

The f4 LIS bokeh is a lot more pleasing than the f2.8 LIS II. Sure it's no ef 200mm f2.8 prime but it's still very nice.
yes, I suspect you're right about that. I had, and sold, all 3 of the 2.8s as they didn't deliver what I expected of them. I may have kept the f/4 IS for the size, mass, and IQ/$.

I get better out of focus rendering using a 1.4 x tc. I think the extra reach smooths out the backgrounds a bit more. But this lens wasn't intended to be a portrait lens, although it gets used a lot in that capacity. The mk1 had creamier bokeh. No it's a photojournalists tool. So it's built like a tank and has other design priorities. For portrait work, the 85L and 135L are far better tools and excel in their design goals.
 
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GMCPhotographics said:
I get better out of focus rendering using a 1.4 x tc. I think the extra reach smooths out the backgrounds a bit more. But this lens wasn't intended to be a portrait lens, although it gets used a lot in that capacity. The mk1 had creamier bokeh. No it's a photojournalists tool. So it's built like a tank and has other design priorities. For portrait work, the 85L and 135L are far better tools and excel in their design goals.

Interesting observation about better bokeh with a 1.4x TC attached to the 70-200/2.8 IS II ... I'd check that out if I still owned a TC, but I sold my 1.4x II last summer.

Most of the portraits I shoot are corporate headshots, where the only out-of-focus area desired is the background; consequently, I usually set aperture between f/4 and f/8. So for me, the 70-200/2.8 IS II is my go-to portrait lens, and it works great for this application. (My backup is the 100/2.8 IS, which, being designated as a macro lens, probably wasn't intended for portraits, either ... ). ;)
 
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Ogreatkman said:
For the people that own the 70-200 F/4. What should we hold onto our lenses or move to other lenses such as the 70-300? Or move up to the 70-200 F/2.8 or F/2.8 IS?
Compromise on constant aperture aprerture (F4.0 over f5.6) weigth (lighter than F2.8 ) and size (smaller than F2.8 ).
Use of tele converters to get longer reach.
Great optics, mechanics, USM AF, weather sealing.
Need any more?
 
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I have noticed that Canon has been moving toward placing the zoom rink further from the camera and moving the focus rink closer to the camera body. This seems to hold for newer zoom lens 100+.

Perhaps there is some advantage to this design that would cause Canon to update the 70-200 F2.8 II IS?
 
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