rrcphoto said:
LetTheRightLensIn said:
mistaspeedy said:
The original post says AT LEAST 2 YEARS AWAY... it could be 3 years away, or 5 years, or 1500 years....
In other words 'do not expect to see this camera soon'.
Yeah who knows. They already demoed a 120MP high-speed sensor with on chip column parallel ADC 5 years ago. But not one bit of that tech has yet appeared in sensors that they mass produce and sell to EOS users. They still build everything, as far as it seems, on the old 500nm process that can't seem to handle anything of that tech.
I think they won't spend the money to upgrade the manufacturing ability to make truly new sensors until after their sales tank, and not a minute sooner. So long as people go on about "DRoners" and praise to the hills whatever they release and keep buy, buy buying every single new model that comes out.... they will just play it conservatively and be a follower rather than leader for such things. It's not run by photographers, artists, videographers, visionaries, etc. but conservative MBAs. The fact that they have now waited past the stagnation and decline in DSLR sales, unfortunately means they may be even more cautious and more likely to sit around milking the old processes for longer.
maybe, maybe the dual gain read can get them around the low ISO DR issue although it remains to be seen if they can manage that at 500nm at more than 12-25MP or so, if not the fast 4k over-sampled without over-heating stuff.
it's always nice to see / hear from someone with exact and intimate knowledge of canon's manufacturing capabilities.
of course .. you don't have any knowledge - so that entire dissertation is prefaced with a "IMO"
I'm curious .. how did a 2012 chipworks article make you an expert?
since that article the 6D and 5Ds full frame cameras were released and canon introduced dual pixel sensors.
all of which aren't covered by chipworks blog.
So despite the fact that ever sensor that has been verified has been built on the old 500nm plant so far and there has been not a single leak about them having moved to source their DSLR sensors on a different plant and no expenditures showing anything new beyond the copper pipe plant where again, nobody has been able to find any source saying they are doing DSLR stuff on yet you just know they have moved to a modern fab?
And if so, isn't that still as bad, if not worse? Since then they actually could already be matching Exmor and without even having to spend any money to do it but they are holding back just to milk people along on old designs a few more times and to suck another bit of old money out of the decrepit 500nm fab.
How would that scenario even be better, if it were even somehow true?
let me also fill you in on patents. that dual slope ADC patent was just approved this year, more dual slope patents finally cleared the patent office and were approved this august just past. a patent application is worth the same as toilet paper. Just because they R&D a sensor, does not mean they have the legal right to commercially produce.
and plenty of times they know what they have and work on products at the same time and release them around the same time as the patent
plus the more Exmore-like ways of doing it they already had set for a long while
also you don't need a patent to be able to legally produce something! all the patent does is protect you so that someone else can't then also run off and produce your design too. but sure as heck can produce whatever you want without a patent (so long as someone else doesn't have a patent on it), they are not permission slips or licenses as you make it sound to let you be allowed to produce your own design
