Canon's new 24-70 2.8L II ship date
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I bought a 5D3 and have the new 24-70 on pre-order (sold my version 1 many months ago). If you go to http://www.photozone.de/canon_eos_ff and compare Nikon FF lenses with Canon, pretty much EVERY single Nikon lens is sharper than Canon. I got frustrated when I was like ok, no WAY the 85 1.2 is worse then the Nikon in terms of sharpness, but it's not so. I understand that there's more to look at in terms of build quality/CA/Bokeh/Vignette, but I wanted to see the MTF charts. It looks like the Canon 24 1.4/35 1.4/50 1.2-1.4/85 1.2, e.c.t, lack in terms of resolving more detail than Nikon. I really hope this new version is better than Nikon's 24-70, considering the cost. I'm well aware that Canon has arguably the best 70-200, but was more focused on the other medium range primes.
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Dylan said:
How do you compare them ? The authors of the website, photozone repeatedly state that results from different sensors are not comparable. (edit: and the results from the same lens on different sensors are substantially different).
According to this: http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2012/01/the-great-50mm-shootout the Canon does OK at 50mm.
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MARKOE PHOTOE said:
Arrrr my god could I have ever used this lens today.
Forget how horrific tamron 28-75 corners are on FF anywhere near wide open.
Dang what a shoot to have not had it available.
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Yup, I'm getting the before Christmas jitters. Even went as far to go check up at my local camera store where i have my pre-order to see if they heard anything. Only info they were able to give me was the price 195,000 JPY. Even went ahead and ordered a Hoya Zeta filter and Tamron lens cap for the new lens when it comes in, hopefully next week (Canon Japan's site still says first 10 days of July).
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Radiating said:
International companies don't often play currency games like that. Especially 'down to a few tents of a percent' - that's ridiculous. They will keep this price for years and currency fluctuates all the time, especially now with the Yen carry trade. As for inflation - what inflation? CPI, core CPI? There isn't a single 'inflation', as inflation & deflation change individually for every item in an economy, and the statistical aggregate that is announced doesn't actually correspond for any particular product.
Really ... Canon has employees all over the world, all the sales reps, the repair centers, regional offices, R&D and manufacturing. Money is fungible and they have to pay out a lot of bucks, so that money you pay in bucks for your lens doesn't necessarily ever see Japanese shores.
I work in a similar industry, and trust me the price setting marketing team is not calculating currency or inflation. They raised the price because they can - or they think they can (you never know until you start selling it and seeing the numbers).
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My local camera shop expects to see the 24-70 mk2 any day, but in kits with bodies that they will then split.
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zim said:
It's correct that is would be strange for Canon with their stellar IS tech to release a "kit" without it. However, since many people (including me) figure the 5d3 is overpriced in comparison to the competition and its predecessor, official body-lens combinations with a healthy discount could be a way for Canon to make the 5d3 more affordable while saving face and not discounting the core camera body after so little time.
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Marsu42 said:
There is a kit consisting of the 5D3 and 24-70mm f/2.8L II on its way. Depending where you are in the world, it looks like this kit will retail for just under or a bit over $6000. My wife is waiting for the kit to come out as she wants both the 5DIII and 24-70 II.
I think the kit makes sense, as there is a lot of interest in the 24-70 II. I know it is a subject for debate, but you will find that a lot of people have the view that a 24-70mm f/2.8 lens does not really need IS. One of its main use cases is for events, where shutter speeds of 1/80s or faster usually need to be maintained in order to prevent motion blur. On a full frame body, which is what the lens is targeted at, IS becomes somewhat academic. I think you could argue for IS on a crop frame body - especially the 7D - but the cost of adding IS to this lens would probably turn it into a sales flop.
I think you will find that a lot of people who bought the 5DII kit with the 24-105 f/4L will buy the 5DIII kit with the 24-70mm f/2.8L II.
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if the shorty forty is an entree for what this lens is going to be like then I cant wait to get my hands on one
but
what if its not really any better than the shorty?
but
what if its not really any better than the shorty?
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gmrza said:
Ugh, sounds like there wasn't any "kit" discount involved at all?!? ... but doesn't matter to me since it's way out of the price range I'm willing to pay for the 5d3 and a non-stabilized zoom, I'll grab the 5d2 + Tamron 24-70 for way less than half of that :-o ... but of course the 5d3+24-70ii should be great combination for event shooting.
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gmrza said:
http://www.leedervillecameras.com.au/CatalogueRetrieve.aspx?ProductID=3396216&A=SearchResult&SearchID=5027327&ObjectID=3396216&ObjectType=27
here you go
1 buck under
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