Chinese Did it Again! alternative grip for 5D III on pre order

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Since the Canon version isn't in the wild yet, is anyone concerned about the functions and capability of this grip? It's not doing anything extraordinary, but I curious to know how they developed design specs without a grip to use for backwards engineering.

I have had problems with a knock-off grip. The contacts that transfer power to the camera started to misalign and if you held the camera a certain way it would lose power. It was a heavily used/abused camera though (company gear). On the flip side, I've had an issue with my own Canon 5D2 grip. The grip wheel on the mounting screw stripped off and free rotated without turning the screw. I couldn't even get the grip off, so when I sent the whole camera in for repair Canon service had to remove. They actually fixed it free of charge from what I could tell because I was already paying for camera repairs. Just because it's name brand, doesn't mean it will last longer...for the accessories at least.

The decision gets easier when you do the math. Even if the name brand version is better made and might last longer, if you can buy several knock-offs for the price if a single name brand, lifespan isn't so critical. So that said...with the huge price difference, will the Canon version last 3.8 times as long as the Pixel version? I seriously doubt it, which makes the knock-off version an attractive investment option. I just applied the same logic to the OC-e3 cables. At $70 a piece, the Canon version barely lasts me a year. I can get B&H's brand (Vello) for $14.95. Their version looks perfect (and they even have a shorter model, which I REALLY wanted) and when you do the math, I guarantee you 4 of the Vello cables will far outlast 1 of the Canon models.

I've had good experience with Pixel and they seem to have some well designed and feature-rich products of their own (flash triggers, etc.). The biggest selling point for me however has to be that it isn't "vulgar". I don't know about you, but I am just plan sick of having camera gear that is offensive and not suitable for family environments. It's nice to see a company so tuned to the needs of the elegant photographer.
 
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Mencho(22) said:
Well... my B&H order is cancelled. I will wait till the release day of this alternative grips.

I used a Vello grip on my 5D II and worked fine and as far as I understand Vello is the same brand as Vertax, so... why spend USD 350?

When you get it in, and have a bit of time trying it out...please report back your thoughts on the build and functinon of it!!!


cayenne
 
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K-amps said:
Mencho(22) said:
Look what i found looking around on Ebay :)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PRE-ORDER-Pixel-BG-E11-Alternative-Battery-Grip-Canon-EOS-5D-III-Free-Ship-/140755377672?pt=US_Camera_Battery_Grips&hash=item20c5ac9e08


For only $90 (free shipping) worth the wait. I pre ordered one and will cancel my BH order tomorow morning.

Only of they could do a knock off of the 5D3 for $799... :P

They could do if they wanted to or if they thought they could get away with it....just take a new 5D3 to Shenzen and say "copy that for 1/4 of the MSRP"...and they would, but it would precipitate a trade war!

If they can clone a Canon 580EXII and sell it for 1/4 of the Canon price (see video below), then why not a camera body? I paid €126 (incl P&P + customs tax) for a YN-565, yet camera shops are charging €499 to €619 for a new 580EXII.

Where do you think Canon are getting most of their component parts made? What country manufactures the iPad and iPhone? Answer: China

Yongnuo YN-565EX ETTL Speedlite Flash Review
 
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DB said:
K-amps said:
Mencho(22) said:
Look what i found looking around on Ebay :)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PRE-ORDER-Pixel-BG-E11-Alternative-Battery-Grip-Canon-EOS-5D-III-Free-Ship-/140755377672?pt=US_Camera_Battery_Grips&hash=item20c5ac9e08


For only $90 (free shipping) worth the wait. I pre ordered one and will cancel my BH order tomorow morning.

Only of they could do a knock off of the 5D3 for $799... :P

They could do if they wanted to or if they thought they could get away with it....just take a new 5D3 to Shenzen and say "copy that for 1/4 of the MSRP"...and they would, but it would precipitate a trade war!

If they can clone a Canon 580EXII and sell it for 1/4 of the Canon price (see video below), then why not a camera body? I paid €126 (incl P&P + customs tax) for a YN-565, yet camera shops are charging €499 to €619 for a new 580EXII.

Where do you think Canon are getting most of their component parts made? What country manufactures the iPad and iPhone? Answer: China

Yongnuo YN-565EX ETTL Speedlite Flash Review

Somewhat over simplified. Yes, in China you can basically order whatever you want at whatever price point you desire. They will deliver, but the variable will be quality. This is however only true for relatively low-end tech, such as battery grips and flashes. A camera body is not low-tech, and it's far more difficult to copy. Also, do not mix up companies with countries. Just because the iPad and iPhones are made in China doesn't mean this technology is available to chinese firms. Yes, iPad and iPhone copies are found all over china. But they are nothing like the real deal when you switch them on. (Btw. Foxconn, which makes most of Apple's products is Taiwanese, with most of its manufacturing in China.)
 
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I have a Meike MK-7D + their LP-E6 clones that are indistinguishable from the Chinese made original Canon ones. My grip is solid, reliable and matches the body colour and texture of my 7D. Batteries last just as long as the branded ones.

I also use Yongnuo YN-565EX (580 Exii clones w/o HSS & weather-shielding) flashguns which work perfectly with wireless triggering + full ETTL-II metering etc. Plus I've got 2 x PiXeL TD-381 (Canon CP-E4 clones) battery packs that are much faster than the original Canon version. I use generic off-camera hot-shoe sync cords, brackets etc.

And the Yongnuo MC-36R wireless remote shutter/timer works perfectly too.

All of the above cost less than 1/3rd of the Canon branded products that are probably made in the same or similar factories.

Is there a copy made for the 600 EX RT yet?
 
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macrodust said:
Somewhat over simplified. Yes, in China you can basically order whatever you want at whatever price point you desire. They will deliver, but the variable will be quality. This is however only true for relatively low-end tech, such as battery grips and flashes. A camera body is not low-tech, and it's far more difficult to copy. Also, do not mix up companies with countries. Just because the iPad and iPhones are made in China doesn't mean this technology is available to chinese firms. Yes, iPad and iPhone copies are found all over china. But they are nothing like the real deal when you switch them on. (Btw. Foxconn, which makes most of Apple's products is Taiwanese, with most of its manufacturing in China.)

Yes, but the Chinese have been famous for in the plants that manufacture the real items....turning the same factories back on late night, for making runs of the 'real' product to be sold as knockoffs.

But like others have said...the variable is quality...you never know if it was like I described above, which would be pretty much a true clone...or if it is from somewhere else with who knows tech and quality control behind it.

I mean...look at the recent botches from China with dangerous implications....the pet food that killed pets, the 'Chinese drywall' that caused many of us health problems in New Orleans....dangerous chemicals in human food products.

So, it is always a case of buyer beware.....
 
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I'm quite surprised the announcement of the Pixel grip beat the delivery of the Canon grip. I knew there'd be a knock off but they didn't waste any time. I just pre-ordered the Pixel brand. The pictures on EBay show what looks to be a well made product. Of course we all want to know how well the buttons function.
I bought a Zeikos grip for my 5D MKll for under $60 and it was perfectly fine. As good as the Pixel looks I would have preferred ordering the Zeikos brand because of personal experience.
I didn't mind paying top dollar for the great 5D MK lll, but I sure wasn't about to spend $350 for the Canon grip.

Mk lll grip for $90, no tax and free shipping, life is good ! Thanks to the OP for the tip !
 
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Is the knock-off made with magnesium alloy and improved weather sealing? Hah just kidding.

It makes sense to get the grip cheap, but calling $350 "too much" after shelling out $3500 for the body?

I love my 5d3 so much I wouldn't hesitate to buy a grip for $350 if I needed it.
 
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The main thing I'm going on with my decision is that the $58 Zeikos grip for the MK ll was identical to the Canon grip minus the name printed on it. As long as the controls work smoothly I won't mind if it's made from a lighter material.
All I need is a comfortable way to shoot verticals with the camera. I won't be hammering nails with it.
The price of $90 shipped is not tempting ? I'm thrilled with the option. If the Canon grip turns out to be a Hell of a lot nicer, I sure will consider it for my 2nd body.
 
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bornshooter said:
great idea 3000 camera and save some pennies with a grip cmon get the OE part it will be worth it in the long run
"Worth it" how, exactly?

Here's some personal experience of aftermarket grips.

I've used a Meike grip on my 7D since December 2009 and have not had a moment's problem with it - and this is a body with a Siggy 120-300mm f/2.8 OS and 2x converter (and prior to that a Canon 100-400mm) hanging from it, attached by the grip, swinging from my shoulder for hours at a time in the field and routinely being hauled around to my eye quickly and unceremoniously to get onto the birds I shoot.
 
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Quasimodo said:
DB said:
I have a Meike MK-7D + their LP-E6 clones that are indistinguishable from the Chinese made original Canon ones. My grip is solid, reliable and matches the body colour and texture of my 7D. Batteries last just as long as the branded ones.

I also use Yongnuo YN-565EX (580 Exii clones w/o HSS & weather-shielding) flashguns which work perfectly with wireless triggering + full ETTL-II metering etc. Plus I've got 2 x PiXeL TD-381 (Canon CP-E4 clones) battery packs that are much faster than the original Canon version. I use generic off-camera hot-shoe sync cords, brackets etc.

And the Yongnuo MC-36R wireless remote shutter/timer works perfectly too.

All of the above cost less than 1/3rd of the Canon branded products that are probably made in the same or similar factories.

Is there a copy made for the 600 EX RT yet?

I'll bet they've taken the 600EX-RT apart already and are working on a clone. How much do you think they will charge for it, perhaps $200-250 given that in Europe the new flagship Canon flashgun costs almost a grand! My closest Canon camera store has the 600EX-RT in stock for a mere US$920 (see advert link below)

http://www.connscameras.ie/canon-600exrt-speedlite/4960999786100pd.html

How can you justify paying more for a flashgun, than say for a HD video capable DSLR like a Rebel T3i?
 
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FunPhotons said:
Are the aftermarket grips made out of magnesium alloy?

I can't find it now, but I seem to recall the the Canon grips have an alloy exoskeleton like the cameras.

No. They're probably all plastic, but hey I suppose you pay partly for quality + partly for the brand.
 
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This only ships to certain places and Singapore isn't one of them :(
Tried to pre-order it but can't...i too won't buy the original one, because the price to me isn't worth it.
Yes, the OEM ones won't be magnesium etc...but i only use the grip on occasions where i need to which is maybe 5% of the times i use the mk3, so it doesn't make sense paying so much when the OEM type performs equally as well, though quality is not the same, performance is...
 
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DB said:
FunPhotons said:
Are the aftermarket grips made out of magnesium alloy?
I can't find it now, but I seem to recall the the Canon grips have an alloy exoskeleton like the cameras.
No. They're probably all plastic, but hey I suppose you pay partly for quality + partly for the brand.
On an old 5D I wore out the genuine grip, and the paint over the metal lasted just a few months from new before it showed the metal underneath. This camera was worked mercilessly in all sorts of conditions as a second body to a couple of 1-Series bodies. I replaced the grip with a Meike clone. Being made of plastic, it looked as good as the day it was bought when I finally retired the camera. There are benefits.

Paul Wright
 
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