Defective 5D MK III.....

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Light optimizer and all that stuff turned off also?

Processed in Lr? It applies color noise reduction as default, turned that off also?

Because this image is not fine like many of you comment, I can clearly see what you mean by blotchy. It looks more like poor hybrid cam with way to much NR applied.... Very strange if all is turned off..
 
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SF DTM said:
If you don't see anything wrong with he quality of that image then perhaps some glasses would do you good. I just met up with Borrow Lens and did multiple tests with their cameras and there is indeed something wrong with my MK3 body. The difference in image quality side by side with their MK3 was night and day.

Hopefully that was more of joke than it read like. It seemed fairly rude considering the person stopped to look at your photos and is trying to help.

I agree, there is nothing wrong with your posted images...which isn't to say there isn't something wrong with your camera. Remember that I'm looking at this on a lousy laptop and not my full desktop system with calibrated monitor. Also, different browsers shows the images differently, so it may look bad on IE and bad on Chrome or vice versa. You also have the advantage of having already seen the raw data, probably on a better monitor, so you already know exactly where to look.

Can you please help us help you by telling us exactly where to look. Maybe circle a few of the problem areas? If not, and the thread is still open, I'll try taking another look when I can see the image better.

Thanks.
 
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I forgot I had my tablet with me...and it is calibrated. I think I see what your talking about, but even the lightroom controls aren't looking good (blured), so it makes me wonder if I'm seeing is really in your image or in the saved PNG file.

You said you saw the same thing in JPGs. Could you most an unaltered JPG for us to look at?
 
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As another person posted, the crops you have been posting today/yesterday do not give us much information regarding location of crop in the overall scene/setting/etc and we're getting no where... Post a raw file so we can download it and see on our own computers... If it is a defect, the effect should be universal across the board on everyones computer... if not it could be your processing.
 
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awinphoto said:
As another person posted, the crops you have been posting today/yesterday do not give us much information regarding location of crop in the overall scene/setting/etc and we're getting no where... Post a raw file so we can download it and see on our own computers... If it is a defect, the effect should be universal across the board on everyones computer... if not it could be your processing.

Actually, if you look at his first post, second Lightroom screenshot you can see where the crop was taken from. However, what I initially missed was that the "100% crop" he posted is not a 100% crop. It's 2000 pixels wide. Based on the Lightroom screenshot, it's seems clear that the crop has been upscaled in order to be 2000 pixels wide. That explains why that image posted here looks so blotchy, but not what he is seeing.
 
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bchernicoff said:
awinphoto said:
As another person posted, the crops you have been posting today/yesterday do not give us much information regarding location of crop in the overall scene/setting/etc and we're getting no where... Post a raw file so we can download it and see on our own computers... If it is a defect, the effect should be universal across the board on everyones computer... if not it could be your processing.

Actually, if you look at his first post, second Lightroom screenshot you can see where the crop was taken from. However, what I initially missed was that the "100% crop" he posted is not a 100% crop. It's 2000 pixels wide. Based on the Lightroom screenshot, it's seems clear that the crop has been upscaled in order to be 2000 pixels wide. That explains why that image posted here looks so blotchy, but not what he is seeing.

True but for the most part he is also showing us 100% or so he says of the photos on the screenshot... still tells us really nothing... Doesn't tell us settings, methods, etc... Raw files is the only way for everyone to have a crack at the file and see if it is a duff camera or if something in the lightroom raw process, but then again i thought LR4 doesn't support the 5d3... i guess that's another topic... but anyways it's the only way to see what's going on under the hood without physically handing the camera ourselfs... maybe there's a setting or something going on in lightroom that isn't in photoshops ACR or something like that... we really need more info before jumping the gun
 
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Re: Defective 5D MK III.....

bchernicoff said:
awinphoto said:
As another person posted, the crops you have been posting today/yesterday do not give us much information regarding location of crop in the overall scene/setting/etc and we're getting no where... Post a raw file so we can download it and see on our own computers... If it is a defect, the effect should be universal across the board on everyones computer... if not it could be your processing.

Actually, if you look at his first post, second Lightroom screenshot you can see where the crop was taken from. However, what I initially missed was that the "100% crop" he posted is not a 100% crop. It's 2000 pixels wide. Based on the Lightroom screenshot, it's seems clear that the crop has been upscaled in order to be 2000 pixels wide. That explains why that image posted here looks so blotchy, but not what he is seeing.

You're right about the sizing, didn't think of that but I assure that at proper size the quality looks just as bad. I'm on my way home from returning the camera I'll post a bunch of samples when im home.
 
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Re: Defective 5D MK III.....

SF DTM said:
bchernicoff said:
awinphoto said:
As another person posted, the crops you have been posting today/yesterday do not give us much information regarding location of crop in the overall scene/setting/etc and we're getting no where... Post a raw file so we can download it and see on our own computers... If it is a defect, the effect should be universal across the board on everyones computer... if not it could be your processing.

Actually, if you look at his first post, second Lightroom screenshot you can see where the crop was taken from. However, what I initially missed was that the "100% crop" he posted is not a 100% crop. It's 2000 pixels wide. Based on the Lightroom screenshot, it's seems clear that the crop has been upscaled in order to be 2000 pixels wide. That explains why that image posted here looks so blotchy, but not what he is seeing.

You're right about the sizing, didn't think of that but I assure that at proper size the quality looks just as bad. I'm on my way home from returning the camera I'll post a bunch of samples when im home.

Returned it already? ???
 
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SF DTM said:
The issue is that every image taken with the camera, no matter what ISO, F stop, RAW, JPEG, etc. is coming out very milky/blotchy, almost like the camera is applying heavy NR to every image.

The camera doesn't apply NR to RAW images. Only DPP does that.
 
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AnselA said:
Please post several uncropped Raw with all the shooting details (settings and lens) so we can help you. You sound worried but if it is defective you will get a new one.

This is the only way to know. Also, be sure test shots are taken with a tripod. Use CENTER focus on a specific point in the photo as a reference.
 
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Autocall said:
are you aware that you should first press the shutter button halfway before pushing it down completely?
jpeg samples, png savings,
come on...

Have you had a look at his portfolio site? I'm pretty sure he's capable of operating that camera. And if he's been able to do side by side comparisons with another Mk3 body he probably knows what he's looking out for.
And that crop of the car does look pretty soft and blotchy to me. Although one thing that strikes me when looking at the small preview image of the whole shot is the hdr-esque sky in the background? Was that shot an in camera hdr??
 
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It reminds me of the samples Canon have released of both the 1d X and the 5d3, I think DPP is doing something wacky. (and speaking of wacky) What the hell didi Adobe do to Lr 4 ? It's soooo slooooow and the NR was WAAAY better in beta. So if canon screwed the in camera firmware and their DPP, and adobe def screwed up on Lr 4, than we're better off keeping our old stuff ::)
 
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CowGummy said:
Autocall said:
are you aware that you should first press the shutter button halfway before pushing it down completely?
jpeg samples, png savings,
come on...

Have you had a look at his portfolio site? I'm pretty sure he's capable of operating that camera. And if he's been able to do side by side comparisons with another Mk3 body he probably knows what he's looking out for.
And that crop of the car does look pretty soft and blotchy to me. Although one thing that strikes me when looking at the small preview image of the whole shot is the hdr-esque sky in the background? Was that shot an in camera hdr??

That's exactly what I was thinking too, very hdr ish.
 
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I don't blame you for wanting a full new unit and not just a repair if the item is broken/defective, otherwise you are technically buying a factory refurb at full new pricing. Apple made me do that once with an honestly defective product, the new fangled heat sensor/power switch in the unit was physically defective, the f'in machine would turn itself off while I was using it, and it would turn itself back on in the middle of the night and wake me up when I wasn't.... Wasted a ton of my time, energy, happiness and the people on the support line were among the worst I've ever dealt with as a paying customer (make that over-paying sucker). Anyways, long story short I payed $4,500 for a factory refurb and a horrible experience and then spent the last 12 years listening to a-holes go on about how Apple is so f'ing great.

With that said, what is wrong with your new camera? Your opening post/description and accompanying sample images don't give me any hints as to what might be a problem?
 
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