do you hope for sony sensors in the 5D MK 4?

[Jon_D]

too me it looks like any other brand is getting better and better sensors with each new camera while canon is kind of stagnating.

now 2-3 month from now sony is introducing yet another improved generation of sensors.
making canon possibly look even more outdated when it comes to sensor performance.

on the lens front canon is still one of the best beside nikon.
but other companys improve on the lens front too.
not long and 90% of the customers will find all the lenses they want from any brand.

canon has to act know to get new customers and keep old ones.
i don´t see them doing that. there is no real mirroless alternative from canon.
the A6000 beats the pathetic (sorry but my opinion) EOS-M at everything but price.

even the people who will buy the 7D MK2 because of it´s speed and features would love to have a better sensor in the camera.

would canon using sony sensors make us all a happy bunch of people?

 

[cpsico]

While Sonya have have great low ISO performance canon is better at high ISO where most event shooters stay. The problem I feel is this attempt to bastardized cameras into video tools. I am sure compromises made to create a video capable camera affect still image quality.

 

[lintoni]

Ooh! A troll poll!

 

[Jon_D]

Ooh! A troll poll!

please shut off when you have nothing on topic to say fanboy.

 

[Sporgon]

I think the real question for you Jon_D is if Canon were to put Sony sensors in their dslrs, what are you going to do with your life ?

 

[Jon_D]

I think the real question for you Jon_D is if Canon were to put Sony sensors in their dslrs, what are you going to do with your life ?

what are you doing with your life except spending it on internet forums?
maybe time to think about that, mr. massposter?

rotfl

 

[lintoni]

Ooh! A troll poll!

please shut off when you have nothing on topic to say fanboy.

You could try to write a coherent sentence.

 

[lintoni]

I think the real question for you Jon_D is if Canon were to put Sony sensors in their dslrs, what are you going to do with your life ?

what are you doing with your life except spending it on internet forums?
maybe time to think about that, mr. massposter?

rotfl

The rate at which Sporgon posts on Canon Rumors isn't much higher than the rate you post. The difference, however, is that Sporgon's posts are pertinent and useful. He knows more about photography than you could ever aspire to. Now, why don't you do something useful? Take your camera and go and practice some photography.

 

[Loswr]

Ooh! A troll poll!

+1

 

[AcutancePhotography]

Well that did not take long. Is this is record for CR threads?

 

[RLPhoto]

I could careless.

 

[Don Haines]

I went with Canon because their mount was designed as a digital mount from scratch, not bastardized from a mechanical mount to make it work.... That means that it is more likely to stay around.....

A lens is an investment. A camera is a consumable. The camera will be around for a few years and then replaced while a good lens will still be a good lens 20 years from now.

In that camera are many systems... arguably the two most important ones are the AF system and the sensor. Although both are critical for a great picture, if the AF system can not handle the task you end up with blurry out of focus pictures, and who really cares what the sensor IQ is of a blurred picture....

With that sensor, we have the perpetual Canon/Sony tradeoff. Yes, the CURRENT Sony sensors have advantages over the Canon sensors, but it isn't a slam dunk... At high ISO Canon pulls ahead. The only thing that you can be certain of in the long run is that BOTH will improve. The question of who is the best is becoming less and less important as realistically, both are fairly close under most circumstances... too close to tell the difference without pixel peeping or heavy manipulation.

And back to the glass... as both companies improve their sensors, the limiting factor starts to become the optics... and this is where Canon definitely holds the lead. As Neuro is fond of mentioning, we are talking about imaging systems, and it is the total package that determines the final result... Look at some of the things being discussed on various forums.... Bob switches from Canon to Nikon... Dick switches from Nikon to Sony... Jane switches from Sony to Canon.... Shouldn't this be a clue as to how close they really are?

So to answer your question, NO! In the long run, it makes no significant difference in imaging quality but it does stifle innovation.

 

[Besisika]

would canon using sony sensors make us all a happy bunch of people?

No. Call it loyalty.
Some people simply trust long experience and don't just jump out of the train because of remote beauty. I will give few years of canon "failure" before I would trust someone else.

 

[jdramirez]

I don't care, because I'm skipping the miiv generation and probably won't upgrade until the mkv.

 

[infared]

Canon will put in a sub-par sensor like they just did with he new 7D...they can ride their full system (lens choices, fast AF, etc.) and get away with it a for now nd make more money. They are a business and business is the shrinking so they are not going to be purchasing sensors from Sony for a high-end camera. They are only going to be able to ride that dragon for a short time... The market and better tech is closing in on them....just my guess.

 

[can0nfan2379]

While Sonya have have great low ISO performance canon is better at high ISO where most event shooters stay. The problem I feel is this attempt to bastardized cameras into video tools. I am sure compromises made to create a video capable camera affect still image quality.

I have almost zero use for video. While I appreciate that many users do have a use for video I think Canon and most other companies have moved away from the essence of a stills camera. Canon have an awesome selection of lenses and their AF is probably the best around especially with the superteles. If I were a sports shooter I'd totally appreciate the anti-flicker mode on the 7DII -- that is a great innovation on the stills side.

I agree that incorporating video probably has some affect on sensor design vs a stills only camera but what or how much I have no idea. Improved sensor would be nice but I still view the system as a whole and I hate Nikon ergonomics.

 

[AcutancePhotography]

I have almost zero use for video. While I appreciate that many users do have a use for video I think Canon and most other companies have moved away from the essence of a stills camera.

Will there come a point where the bestest still camera and the bestest video camera will be incompatable on the same body?

I also don't care about video and I wonder if my still cameras could be "better" if the design concentrated on still photography instead of video.

If a camera tries to be the best at both, is there a point when it ends up being the best at neither?

 

[Cgdillan]

I feel like camera companies have been trading off back and forth forever and Canon sensors were leading for a while and now it's time for someone else to talk et lead for a few years and light a fire under Canons ass. For still shooting I'm still using my 5D3 and for video A7s. I also hate Nikons ergonomics though they do have nice offering for IQ. I would be happy for Sony sensors in Canon cameras until Canon can catch up, but we all know that would never happen. With Sony's great sensor offerings, I'm still shooting Canon. Just because Sony has "better" sensors doesn't mean Canon has "bad" sensors. As long as you know what you are doing you can make pretty much any look great. I love the speed and ergonomics of my 5d3.

 

[Famateur]

Okay...I'll bite.

No, it would not be good for Canon to switch to Sony sensors for their DLSR cameras -- despite Sony sensors being considered "better" in some ways.

Why? Because this is how competition works! When Sony-sensored DSLR/mirrorless cameras threaten Canon's market share enough, Canon will respond. If/when Canon (or some other company) leapfrogs Sony's sensors, Sony will respond. This dynamic is critical to the "innovation" you demand and is ultimately best for the consumer. If your current camera/system doesn't meet your needs and one from another company does, then switch. That will help move the wheels of competition, too.

If Canon used Sony sensors, it reduces Sony's incentive to innovate. You'd have Sony, Canon and Nikon all using the same sensors. You want to talk about a company riding sensor technology for as along as it can? That's exactly what such a non-competitive scenario would encourage!

All that useless : business crap aside, I've yet to peruse a pro photographer's portfolio and have any clue from the photographs which company made the sensor that was used to capture the image. Until that happens, I'm happy as a clam thinking of cameras as systems and not sensors.

Sure, I'd love as much dynamic range and as little high ISO noise as I can get, but somehow, digital photography thrived before Exmor, and plenty of pros manage to produce amazing images with...gasp...Canon sensors. :

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Ooh! A troll poll!

please shut off when you have nothing on topic to say fanboy.

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