DPReview 5D3 review out

[kirispupis]

It's out - http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/05/23/Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-III-review-posted

In a sign of their political awareness, the 5D3 scored the same (82%) as the D800.

I'll let the fanboys comment on individual aspects of the review. As far as I have been able to tell, both cameras succeed in taking pictures.

 

[BerniesDad]

Also it appears the 1Ds Mk3 is not available anymore for comparison in the RAW section.

It was there very recently. Why leave up the 1D3 and 1D4 but no 1Ds3?

I'm guessing they look too similar at 100iso?


I am a 1Ds3 owner, so have been wondering if it was worth it to upgrade.

 

[V8Beast]

I am a 1Ds3 owner, so have been wondering if it was worth it to upgrade.

I really like my 5D3, but unless you need a few extra stop of ISO, I'd an upgrade isn't worth it. The 1Ds3 still produces some incredible images

 

[Maxis Gamez]

Excellent review. Not surprising at all.

For what I do, the 5D MKIII is worth it. I love the AF capability!

 

[V8Beast]

In a sign of their political awareness, the 5D3 scored the same (82%) as the D800.

Agreed. Scoring the 5D3 even 1 percent lower would have at least given the Canon whiners something to complain about ;D

 

[K-amps]

Resolution tests show the 22.3mp guy handling very well against the 36 mp guy... something I did not expect. Unless you pixel peep, the images have a lot of information...

 

[spinworkxroy]

I'm wasn't interested to know which is better…i found the review very good because it actually taught me some "hidden" features like EV Simulation DOF button and HTP comparision and why it's good to be turned on etc.. To me, this review on more on how better i can use my 5D3 vs how it compares to the D800 because i really don't care about comparing it to a camera i don't own...

 

[Wilmark]

They gave them the same ratings - which is political. But the Mk3 got spanked in a few important areas - jpg detail, and movie quality - the latter doesnt seem to make any sense. Most other reviewers gave a significant edge to the M3 for movie mode, and that noise filtering is what has helped the canon in video. Personally since Amazon has taken over DPR their reviews have deteriorated. Why give them equal ratings when their text doesnt support it. The nikon gets nod for video!

 

[Invertalon]

For video, it is known the D800 is sharper out of camera... However, the 5D3 takes better to post processing. More detail comes out of sharpening the softer 5D3 video then having it be sharper out of camera. That is what Chuck the Canon tech guy has said, at least.

 

[Ricku]

They gave them the same ratings - which is political. But the Mk3 got spanked in a few important areas - jpg detail, and movie quality.

Sure, but the biggest spanking is in the low ISO dynamic range department. It is no overstatement to say that the 5D3 gets completely blown out of the water by the DR capabilities of the D800.

The D800 also has some very useful features that Canon deliberately skiped, just because of their silly market segmentation. Like spot metering being linked to selected AF point.. Even the low end Nikon DSLR's has this one.

 

[Jens]

Also it appears the 1Ds Mk3 is not available anymore for comparison in the RAW section.

It was there very recently. Why leave up the 1D3 and 1D4 but no 1Ds3?

I'm guessing they look too similar at 100iso?


I am a 1Ds3 owner, so have been wondering if it was worth it to upgrade.

I was wondering the same.

 

[Woody]

Personally since Amazon has taken over DPR their reviews have deteriorated.

Before Amazon took over, DPReview was run by Phil Askey who (i) questioned the need for FF format given the multitude of problems like vignetting and (ii) bashed the megapixel race.

Keep in mind all these took place (i) when Nikon was without a single FF camera (ii) before the 7D showed the world increasing pixel count is not synonymous with increase in pixel noise (iii) before the 36 MP D800 proved conclusively high pixel count sensors can still demonstrate ultrahigh dynamic range and class-leading high ISO performance.

It's all relative... ;D

 

[moreorless]

They gave them the same ratings - which is political. But the Mk3 got spanked in a few important areas - jpg detail, and movie quality - the latter doesnt seem to make any sense. Most other reviewers gave a significant edge to the M3 for movie mode, and that noise filtering is what has helped the canon in video. Personally since Amazon has taken over DPR their reviews have deteriorated. Why give them equal ratings when their text doesnt support it. The nikon gets nod for video!

I'm not much of a video users but what we've heard elsewhere is that the 5D3's video sharpens very well compaired to the D800's due to the latter's worse noise/moire/etc performance.

 

[briansquibb]

Also it appears the 1Ds Mk3 is not available anymore for comparison in the RAW section.

It was there very recently. Why leave up the 1D3 and 1D4 but no 1Ds3?

I'm guessing they look too similar at 100iso?


I am a 1Ds3 owner, so have been wondering if it was worth it to upgrade.

I am a 1Ds3 owner and I am not moving to the 5DIII. My 1DS3 is used for low ISO shots - where it is at least as good as the 5D3 and has better DR too. I would really miss the AF point metering as this avoids under/over exposure which is more hit and miss with a single point metering they have on all non 1D's

The reasons to move to the 5D3 might be:

- iso above 800
- marginally faster AF
- 6fps from 5fps

I cant really see much benefit in moving as I would also need grips as much of the use is portrait. I already have a 1D4 for high iso and 10fps. As long as the 1DS3 keeps delivering those high IQ images then I will keep it.

 

[sparda79]

For video, it is known the D800 is sharper out of camera... However, the 5D3 takes better to post processing. More detail comes out of sharpening the softer 5D3 video then having it be sharper out of camera. That is what Chuck the Canon tech guy has said, at least.

That's also what 'The Camera Store - Nikon D800 vs. 5D Mark III Part 3' and Philip Bloom said.

 

[Wild]

I find it weird that when using the camera comparison, the 5d mkII is rated way better in video mode than the mkIII. I was under the impression that the mkIII is a step up in every way from the mkII in video. They also gave the mkII the nod for raw and jpeg image quality, as well as the exact same scores for build and handling, which contradicts their own review. Seems weird to me.

 

[pwp]

But the Mk3 got spanked in a few important areas - jpg detail, and movie quality - since Amazon has taken over DPR their reviews have deteriorated.

Speaking of spanking, where was the once feared DP-Review blowtorch when it comes to the two other great unmentionables:
1. The Rate button not being freed up to more useful custom settings in Custom Controls
2. The big hairy elephant in the room; the baffling black focus point issue.

Yes DPR has got a bit soft which is a shame. Watch DPR's independent credibility gradually slide away. The fearless standing up to major manufactures is now in the past...an unfortunate Amazon era reality. Who loses? We do.

Even so, it's a good review with few surprises that has it's strongest suit as a user guide for new 5D3 owners.

Paul Wright

 

[Hesham]

It's out - http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/05/23/Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-III-review-posted

In a sign of their political awareness, the 5D3 scored the same (82%) as the D800.

I'll let the fanboys comment on individual aspects of the review. As far as I have been able to tell, both cameras succeed in taking pictures.

It is clear that they chickened-out, did not want to involve themselves in brand war given they are owned by Amazon.com. The result was 'cooked' to be equal with D800. In the cons section, they practically hammered the 5DM3 indirectly and goes against results gathered by individual reviews.

 

[traveller]

But the Mk3 got spanked in a few important areas - jpg detail, and movie quality - since Amazon has taken over DPR their reviews have deteriorated.

Speaking of spanking, where was the once feared DP-Review blowtorch when it comes to the two other great unmentionables:
1. The Rate button not being freed up to more useful custom settings in Custom Controls
2. The big hairy elephant in the room; the baffling black focus point issue.

Yes DPR has got a bit soft which is a shame. Watch DPR's independent credibility gradually slide away. The fearless standing up to major manufactures is now in the past...an unfortunate Amazon era reality. Who loses? We do.

Even so, it's a good review with few surprises that has it's strongest suit as a user guide for new 5D3 owners.

Paul Wright

I'm afraid that you're right, DPR's reviews are getting to be a bit "by the book" run-throughs of features, rather than the critical assessments of handling and performance that they used to be. On the one hand, it does feel like there's slightly less of the Nikon bias that the site once had, but at the same time there is less highlighting of annoying issues. Either digital cameras are becoming more mature with fewer glaring faults, or DPR doesn't want to run down products that their owner (Amazon) sells...

 

[tomscott]

Its interesting that when doing a direct comparison to the 7D the metering and focusing accuracy and the ergonomics and handling are rated much higher than the 5D3. When the 5D3 is very similar in handling if not I would say better, and with the better metering I would say the 5D is better there too.

More reason to think that things are is slipping.