DPreview adds 6D sample images to their preview
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dpreview 6D samples
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/11/19/Canon?comment=7915871544
i am not that impressed by the image quality.... sorry to say.
not for a new camera in 2012.
maybe i have to take a closer look at the high iso images.
but as i shoot mostly under iso 1600 i don´t see much that makes me want to sell my 5D MK2.
lets wait for RAW samples....
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/11/19/Canon?comment=7915871544
i am not that impressed by the image quality.... sorry to say.
not for a new camera in 2012.
maybe i have to take a closer look at the high iso images.
but as i shoot mostly under iso 1600 i don´t see much that makes me want to sell my 5D MK2.
lets wait for RAW samples....
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Well, unfortunately they did extremely heavy global nr on the shots again (compare the details on iso 50 to the other studio shots), obviously to them a noise-free black background is more important than details :-x ... hail to raw and the LR nr brush!traveller said:
But looking at the iso samples it might be clean 6400 and the the 51200 iso shot look better than 6400 on my 60d, so if it's a 3 stop improvement over the current crop sensor I'd say that's a definitive step up
... on the other hand side we don't know how the dynamic range degrades @high iso.
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x-vision said:
I didn't see lens profile on your 5D III pictures, I'm assuming that you used same lens. Since you shot these pictures in studio, the light becomes MAJOR role. I do not believe your light setups were the same, in term of location and height.
Picture below was shot at f11 with 250W studio light in low light location, not the best
, but it does show what 5D III can produce.
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x-vision said:
I agree it does look like the 6D is a little bit better at noise. The better colour could just be from changes in lighting between dpreviews setups, it's hard to tell. However the default NR on the latest Canon cameras has been far too heavy handed of late, and it shows in the other samples as well. Need to see some RAW files before we can really tell (but that will need to wait for RAW support). Although seeing the 6D jpeg better than the 5DIII jpeg, does suggest the larger pixel pitch is doing what would be expected (assuming no major changes to the jpeg engine of course).
Dylan777 said:
Those pictures are from DPReview, we can only assume they used the same lighting setups, but it's possible they didn't manage to keep it exactly the same.
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Dylan777 said:
At iso 100 like your shot you hardly need a 5d3 to produce a good result (actually the 5d2 is said to be a bit sharper at low iso due to the weaker aa filter). Esp. for studio shots putting money into a sharp lens might be smarter than the newest camera body...
The jpeg iso samples of dpreview are to compare noise, in the way that you can see what's left of the details after nr. I guess dpreview is a reliable site and they had the same setup, and imho the 6d is indeed visibly better in these shots (detail left and noise in background) - I just loaded all into lightroom and compared them side by side.
So either Canon at last really did something about their sonsors (rejoice!) or the 5d3 shots were done with an older firmware version that had a worse in-camera jpeg converter - we have to wait for a 6d software raw converter and raw shots to be sure.
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Did a quick and dirty comparison using shots from dpreview. Canon 6D against the 5D mkIII at ISO 102400. I'll let you draw your own conclusions.
http://i.stack.imgur.com/VVoQ6.jpg - or attachment
http://i.stack.imgur.com/VVoQ6.jpg - or attachment
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dpollitt said:
Very interesting. Thanks for posting this!
Of course we can't know for sure until we see the raw files if this is clever NR or better sensor design, but the results are very encouraging. I would prefer the 6D to the 5DIII in this case - far less blotchy colour noise, and better overall colour. Although there is a slight difference in exposure which is kind of odd, and may have an effect on the comparability.
On a side note, it's nice to know that Canon has given DPReview a per-production camera to play with. That may mean we can expect a full review fairly soon after the camera is on the market (fingers crossed).
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Marine03 said:
It certainly looks interesting. While I don't know if this comparison is across sufficiently well-controlled environments, the initial view is that the 6D does seem to perform better. A more accurate reflection will be once DPR has the full reviews of both bodies available and it is possible to compare RAW files of the same scene.
Either way, it may be beginning to look like the 6D is a more interesting camera than many of us initially gave it credit for. (Not that I am in the market for one.) For those people who were thinking of still buying a 5DII, rather than waiting for the 6D, it may make the decision a little more difficult.
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The 6D shots look very interesting. 5D3 is already very good in terms of IQ. If they are able (and from the looks of it, they did) a little bit with the 6D, I think I'll wait for the 6D. As long as it can focus properly even in low-light, I don't need the AF of 5D3. I can't wait for its release. If it turns out to be not much better than 5D2, then I'll just get the 5D2.
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Yes. Forget the 5D Mark III and get the 6D if you have SD cards or if you have a lot of CF cards stay with the 5D Mark II oder change from a entry level camera to the 5D Mark II.
But as the 5D Mark III you loose with the 6D over ISO 3200 a lot of fine details. For professional use don´t go higher then ISO 1600 oder ISO 3200 if you don´t make action or wildlife shots.
But as the 5D Mark III you loose with the 6D over ISO 3200 a lot of fine details. For professional use don´t go higher then ISO 1600 oder ISO 3200 if you don´t make action or wildlife shots.
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that sounds like exactly what i have thought... 6d will have a improvement over 5d mark iii on iso. however, i am happy with my canon 5d mark iii anyway since i got it with a really good deal at adorama. in addition, i cross my finger and hope that canon will push an firmware update to improve and maximize 5d mark iii capabilities....
congratulation to whoever has been waiting for upgrading to 6d... it seems a good signal to start with.
congratulation to whoever has been waiting for upgrading to 6d... it seems a good signal to start with.
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