DPReview reviews the D810... two years after release

[TeT]

The morale of the story is, good camera, yes, but why publish a review on something 2 years old? Weird.

It had to be done before the 5DIV comes out, so they have a full review of the D810 and can pepper the 5DIV preview/review with statements about the D810's superiority.

Not that we are paranoid or anything... 8)

 

[unfocused]

The morale of the story is, good camera, yes, but why publish a review on something 2 years old? Weird.

It had to be done before the 5DIV comes out, so they have a full review of the D810 and can pepper the 5DIV preview/review with statements about the D810's superiority.

Not that we are paranoid or anything... 8)

No kidding! Perhaps removing the tinfoil hats would help. It's logical that since the D810 was widely viewed as an interim refresh of the previously reviewed D800, they did not feel any urgency to review it. And, since there was a lull between the announcements of the 1DX II, the D500 and the D5 and their actual release dates, they decided to take the time to go back and review the D810.

It takes some rather interesting (and indeed paranoid) logic to conclude that ignoring a camera for nearly two years is somehow part of a conspiracy to promote the camera over an upcoming competitor.

 

[ritholtz]

The morale of the story is, good camera, yes, but why publish a review on something 2 years old? Weird.

It had to be done before the 5DIV comes out, so they have a full review of the D810 and can pepper the 5DIV preview/review with statements about the D810's superiority.

Why do they need D810 for that. Do we really need their actual review to know their conclusions. 5D4 is going to lag behind class leader a7r2 DR and going to lag behind benchmarker D5 high ISO. But their tests will help us to see differences between 5d4 and 1dx2.

 

[Loswr]

*sigh* I always forget how many CR members lack a sense of humor. For some, maybe wearing a tinfoil hat would help!

 

[Don Haines]

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It's logical that since the D810 was widely viewed as an interim refresh of the previously reviewed D800, they did not feel any urgency to review it. And, since there was a lull between the announcements of the 1DX II, the D500 and the D5 and their actual release dates, they decided to take the time to go back and review the D810.
...

The review itself mentions why it took so long:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/7058035710/benchmark-performance-nikon-d810-in-depth-review

As we started to dig deeper and deeper into things like its class-leading dynamic range, its 3D tracking autofocus and numerous other details, we realized that not only did we have to revisit some of our existing testing methods, but that to properly test a camera like this we had a responsibility to create entire new tests.

Yes,

This is one of the things that I have wished that DPR would do... instead of only doing the standard tests, to add in some specific tests to look at the unique features of a particular camera. OK, the basic functionality and specs are so similar to the D800 that no review was needed on those grounds, but doing the "retest" allowed them to cover the features that differentiate this camera from it's predecessor (and other makes/models) and in my opinion, was a worthy review, even though late.....

People buying high end cameras want to know about the special reasons to look at a particular model....

 

[unfocused]

*sigh* I always forget how many CR members lack a sense of humor. For some, maybe wearing a tinfoil hat would help!

Sarcasm is not synonymous with humor. Unrelenting sarcasm eventually becomes simply mean and tiresome and ultimately reflects poorly on the source. A bit of humility and self-deprecation is a good antidote.

 

[Loswr]

Sarcasm is not synonymous with humor.

True, but perhaps unsurprisingly certain individuals have difficulty recognizing either.

 

[Maiaibing]

My take 2 years after: If Canon sent this camera on the market I would queue to buy it. :'(

Hope the 5DIV turns the table. Canon's new motor mirror box seems to be a winner. If Canon could only put an equally impressive sensor inside their box and get someone to develop their AF software the sky would be the limit...

(Interesting dpreview calls this an "everything" camera and the 5DS/R a "niche" camera - oh well...)

 

[Maiaibing]

Too many of my Nikon friends do not know how to take a properly exposed pictures and simply just correct it in post.

You need some new friends...

(Reminds me how Canon and Nikon claimed AutoFocus would never have any interest for "pro" photographers)

 

[AvTvM]

Re: DPR proves again how irrelevant they have become

5 years ago i visited dpr on a daily basis. Toady ... not even once a month. Totally irrelevant. Braindead amazon sales promotion outlet.

They will go out of business within the next 2 years.

 

[bdunbar79]

Re: DPR proves again how irrelevant they have become

5 years ago i visited dpr on a daily basis. Toady ... not even once a month. Totally irrelevant. Braindead amazon sales promotion outlet.

They will go out of business within the next 2 years.

I can't argue with any of that.

 

[Bennymiata]

I shot a wedding a few weeks ago, and one of my assistants was using an D810.
As I did all the post production for the 3 cameramen, I noticed that the colours on the 810 photos looked very poor compared to the 5d3's photos.
Just for fun, I pushed the 810's photos just for fun.
You can push them further than 5d3 images, but the colours and contrast are still awefull.

I'm definitely sticking with Canon.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

*sigh* I always forget how many CR members lack a sense of humor. For some, maybe wearing a tinfoil hat would help!

Yes, but to keep dumb comments out, or to keep them in

 

[Woody]

Regardless of what DPReview thinks of the Nikon D810, or for that matter, any 'class leading' camera from Nikon, the company is now in dire straits.

"Nikon didn’t just report weaker Imaging business sales for the year yesterday, their entire report could only be characterized as “grim.”...

Indeed, every quarter was down year-to-year, but the last quarter shows Nikon sliding significantly down: their ILC market share is now down to just below 31% (note that Canon claimed to have shipped the same number of ILCs in that quarter as last year, probably gaining market share). Last year Nikon was just below 34% market share, so they’ve lost a solid 3%, or about a tenth, of their second place position to others."

- from http://www.dslrbodies.com/newsviews/grim-nikon-financials.html

(Note the quarter referred to by Thom Hogan is Jan-Mar 2016.)

Sony has tried for years to gain market share, but is heading nowhere.

It thus appears the company that is 'lagging behind the competition in sensor quality and 3D AF tracking' is growing from strength to strength in terms of ILC market shares. How ironic. : ;D

 

[AvTvM]

Re: mirrorslappers will not save nikon, nor canon

nikon just gets served the bill for not offering mirrorless systems with APS-C and FF sensors a bit earlier than canon. ragnarol just around the corner for nikon and canon. they will just hit the wall. slap, slap, bang, crash.

and i will just laugh!

 

[Woody]

Re: mirrorslappers will not save nikon, nor canon

nikon just gets served the bill for not offering mirrorless systems with APS-C and FF sensors a bit earlier than canon. ragnarol just around the corner for nikon and canon. they will just hit the wall. slap, slap, bang, crash.

and i will just laugh!

While Nikon made a major blunder by introducing the CX system, Canon did the right move with their EOS-M.

By the end of the year, we shall see if you or Canon has the last laugh.

 

[Loswr]

Re: mirrorslappers will not save nikon, nor canon

By the end of the year, we shall see if you or Canon has the last laugh.

Oh, we don't need to wait that long... ;D

 

[AvTvM]

I don't believe a fully competitive Canon EOS-M body is anywhere close to launch. Not to mention an FF-sensor ILC system fully competitive with Sony A7/R/S II.

I believe Sony A9 will come first and might just have everything it takes to hammer the final nail into Canon's mirrorslapper coffin ... at least as far as I am concerned ... and another couple million photographers around the world. Hasta la vista, Canon slapper.

 

[Loswr]

I believe Sony A9 will come first and might just have everything it takes to hammer the final nail into Canon's mirrorslapper coffin...

Oh, you mean the Sony that had a railroad spike driven into their coffin last year when they lost the #1 spot to Olympus in Japan, one of the biggest MILC markets? Meanwhile Canon gained MILC market share and edged above Panasonic for #3.

... at least as far as I am concerned ...

Oh, well then...no one else but you cares. And those 'couple million photographers around the world' are mostly figments of your overactive, mirrorslap-addled imagination.

 

[ahsanford]

I don't believe a fully competitive Canon EOS-M body is anywhere close to launch. Not to mention an FF-sensor ILC system fully competitive with Sony A7/R/S II.

I believe Sony A9 will come first and might just have everything it takes to hammer the final nail into Canon's mirrorslapper coffin ... at least as far as I am concerned ... and another couple million photographers around the world. Hasta la vista, Canon slapper.

Yes, because another FF mirrorless body is the last piece in Sony's puzzle. :

Sony needs another FF body like Canon needs another 18-55 EF-S kit lens. The notion that a great sensor -- no matter how great it is -- will see photographers walk away from the AF / responsiveness / ergonomics / controls / handling / lenses / flashes / accessories is simply insane.

Mirrorless will take over, I have no doubt. But it's going to be many years before that happens, and long before it does, Canon will toggle from resisting FF mirrorless to embracing it.

- A