DXOMark: Sony A99 II sensor is worse than the A7R II, D800E, D810, K-1

[AvTvM]

SLT. Worst of both worlds. Mirror, light loss (in reality more like 2/3 of a stop) and big fat camera.

They should have just stopped that entire A-mount and SLT stuff and focused on A7 lineup and a really great A9 plus some decent E-mount lenses for A6500 line.

Stupid, Sony!

 

[ritholtz]

SLT. Worst of both worlds. Mirror, light loss (in reality more like 2/3 of a stop) and big fat camera.

They should have just stpooed that entire A-mount and SLT stuff and focused on A7 lineup and a relly great A9 plus some decent E-mount lenses for A6500 line.

Stupid, Sony!

Looks like similar to 5D4.

 

[Dylan777]

While others are waiting for best/better mirrorless cameras, I'll cont. with my crappy a7s and FE35f1.4

 

[3kramd5]

SLT. Worst of both worlds. Mirror, light loss (in reality more like 2/3 of a stop) and big fat camera.

They should have just stopped that entire A-mount and SLT stuff and focused on A7 lineup and a really great A9 plus some decent E-mount lenses for A6500 line.

Stupid, Sony!

some people like autofocus performance that can't yet be provided from the image sensor.

Stupid photographers.

While others are waiting for best/better mirrorless cameras, I'll cont. with my crappy a7s and FE35f1.4

Nice!

 

[Jopa]

I had the original A99, sold it when moved to the A7 platform. It was a decent camera, but I wasn't quite happy with the lens selection. All 3rd parties like Sigma usually start lens production for Sony at least a year after the same models become available for Canon and Nikon. The best Zeiss branded Sony portrait primes still use screw driven motors (85 and 135), and the new 50mm SSM was $1500 retail. The 135 f/1.8 is a quite unique lens though, probably the best of the whole lens lineup (to me).
Out of curiosity I looked at the DxO "best primes" page for the A99 II, and the Sony "big whites" also seem to be very outdated: https://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Compare/Side-by-side/Sony-300mm-F28-G-II-on-Sony-SLT-Alpha-99-II-versus-Canon-EF-300mm-F28L-IS-II-USM-on-Canon-EOS-5DS-R__1133_1120_400_1009. They don't offer any modern and reasonably priced high end telephoto optics for a capable (on paper, but not sure about the fine print ) system. Assuming the target audience for this camera are sports / wild life photographers, what lenses are they supposed to use? I can only think about the new Sigma 500 f/4 to the rescue...

 

[Jack Douglas]

Sony 300 big white - I'd feel sick if I saw the specs side by side as in the link and was interested in shooting wildlife. It probably gives decent results in practice, which leads to my advice to myself - stay away from comparisons once you've spent your money.

Jack

 

[Jopa]

Sony 300 big white - I'd feel sick if I saw the specs side by side as in the link and was interested in shooting wildlife. It probably gives decent results in practice, which leads to my advice to myself - stay away from comparisons once you've spent your money.

Jack

Indeed. But for the same price ($7500) you can get the excellent Canon version + a 7dmk2

 

[3kramd5]

Sony 300 big white - I'd feel sick if I saw the specs side by side as in the link and was interested in shooting wildlife. It probably gives decent results in practice, which leads to my advice to myself - stay away from comparisons once you've spent your money.

Jack

Indeed. But for the same price ($7500) you can get the excellent Canon version + a 7dmk2

That's a bargain. Sony's 500mm sells for 13,000 USD (well, it's listed for that, I dont know if it actually sells).

 

[LordofTackle]

Sony 300 big white - I'd feel sick if I saw the specs side by side as in the link and was interested in shooting wildlife. It probably gives decent results in practice, which leads to my advice to myself - stay away from comparisons once you've spent your money.

Jack

Indeed. But for the same price ($7500) you can get the excellent Canon version + a 7dmk2

That's a bargain. Sony's 500mm sells for 13,000 USD (well, it's listed for that, I dont know if it actually sells).

In germany it sells for 15,000€ in most shops..but good luck finding a shop that actually has it (as in "ready to ship")

 

[LordofTackle]

Sony 300 big white - I'd feel sick if I saw the specs side by side as in the link and was interested in shooting wildlife. It probably gives decent results in practice, which leads to my advice to myself - stay away from comparisons once you've spent your money.

Jack

Cause it is so good? or so bad?

 

[privatebydesign]

Clearly both flynt and tinder are still around.

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FWIW, the Canon F1 also had a 250 frame film back.
Must be showing my age but I owned the original F1 for a time. Nice camera, but the sensor was identical to much lighter cameras.
I assume that the difference between the 99 II and the A7RII is the pellicle mirror.

Actually no. The F1 did indeed have a 250 frame bulk back, but the 1984 High Speed F1 is based on the New F-1 and that had the FN-100 100 frame bulk back. I only know this because I recently sold one.