neuroanatomist said:Justin said:Exactly my point. Canon's roadmap is all banged up. For those of us including macfly with thousands if not tens of thousands invested in glass this matters incredibly.
Why? If you have thousands or tens of thousands invested in Canon lenses (I do), you probably have a decent camera body (or more than one), right? If Canon mucks with their roadmap or decides to stop producing dSLRs altogether, how exactly does that affect the camera(s) and lens(es) you are using today?
BlackAdder said:I don't understand why some people continue to argue the point that the 1Ds and 1D have merged. Is it because they are hanging onto hope?
I honestly see this as a good sign for those who need high MP yet not all of the bells and whistles of the 1DX. Why? Because I see this as a possible future for Canon DSLRs.
1DX: A sports and photojournalist camera that is the flagship for Canon DSLRs. $6800 (Correct my price if I'm wrong, I thought I read that in the release.)
5DMIII: This is where your big MP, FF camera comes in at. What were we thinking, 24-32? $3500-$3800
6D: Rumors have been out about a cheaper FF option. Why not put your 1DX sensor in this? $2800-$3000
7D/7DII: Continue on with the line as it is a beautiful seller and great camera: $1800-$2100
60D/70D: Last I heard, the 60D was easily outselling the T3i. I'm guessing the line continues: $1000
Justin said:a weak AA filter (guessing Canon has put in a strong one to improve moire)
The D2H shoots only 8 frames per second. It seems safe to say that if the D2 was slower they had a gap to fill.ronderick said:Late to the party...
But anyways, I see this as a change in Canon's approach to the pro's market, and moving closer to Nikon's version.
Effectively, the 1DX pretty much fit the D3 category - the all-rounder FF pro camera.
So if the analogy works, there should be room for the D3H (high speed model), D3X (high MP model), and D3s (the revised all-rounder model) equivalent.
I guess it's good news for landscape shooters moving into the pro-camera field for not having to dish out the US$7000+ for the FF pro-body. However, I wish the price for the 1DX could stay in the US$5,000 range...
Well, the good news is that the 1DX can use the same battery as the 1D4 (LP-E4), even though it has another battery (LP-E4N).
As a pro I would've hoped he had the perspective to realize that Canon most likely will be releasing a high megapixel camera as well. Canon releases according to their own roadmap, but it seems in this case that (against my belief) they targeted the area most in need of an improvement.neuroanatomist said:sb said:macfly said:Bye bye Canon, hello Nikon.
You won't be seeing me here anymore, good luck with new Prosumer 18mp camera kids, and keep an eye on EBay, all my lenses etc will be there soon.
LOL Sorry, you'll just have to learn to frame your shots properly to begin with, instead of relying on cropping a 50MP file. Or yes, you can switch to Nikon and work with 12MP out of spite LOLOL Priceless
I suspect macfly is referring to the rumored 36 MP D800. If you do a little digging into macfly instead of bashing him (which I admit, I was guilty of in the past), you'll find he's a pro with an impressive portfolio, and often shoots with medium format bodies in addition to dSLRs. He appears to have a real need for higher resolution for print ads (thus the MF cameras), and was clearly hoping for a higher MP body from Canon, from a professional perspective.
Having said that, for me, 18 MP is just fine...
neuroanatomist said:Justin said:a weak AA filter (guessing Canon has put in a strong one to improve moire)
Not sure about that - in CPN Europe's 8-page document (Technologies Explained – EOS-1D X), they state, "The combination of sensor and dual “DIGIC 5+†processors also greatly reduces colour fringing and moiré for professional quality footage." Canon USA's features tab states, "The CMOS sensor's new drive system significantly increases image processor performance, reducing color artifacts and moiré." To me, that sounds like digital removal of the moiré artifacts.
neuroanatomist said:Justin said:a weak AA filter (guessing Canon has put in a strong one to improve moire)
Not sure about that - in CPN Europe's 8-page document (Technologies Explained – EOS-1D X), they state, "The combination of sensor and dual “DIGIC 5+” processors also greatly reduces colour fringing and moiré for professional quality footage." Canon USA's features tab states, "The CMOS sensor's new drive system significantly increases image processor performance, reducing color artifacts and moiré." To me, that sounds like digital removal of the moiré artifacts.
Justin said:neuroanatomist said:Justin said:a weak AA filter (guessing Canon has put in a strong one to improve moire)
Not sure about that - in CPN Europe's 8-page document (Technologies Explained – EOS-1D X), they state, "The combination of sensor and dual “DIGIC 5+†processors also greatly reduces colour fringing and moiré for professional quality footage." Canon USA's features tab states, "The CMOS sensor's new drive system significantly increases image processor performance, reducing color artifacts and moiré." To me, that sounds like digital removal of the moiré artifacts.
Thanks. Yes, hard to say for sure about the AA filter. I don't know that what you have cited tells us anything about a harware or software or combo process to remove the artifacts, if anything I would argue this description reads more like a hardware fix, but I'm out of my league on what these statements actually mean.
Pau said:Wow. This camera is amazing. Even though this camera is way out of my price range I wanted to bring up something.
This camera does:
17 915 904(pixels) x 14(fps) = 250 822 656 (pixels per second)
On the other hand, 4k digital cinema is:
7 020 544(pixels x 30(fps)= 210 616 320 (pixels per second)
Of course, when the 1dx shoots 14 fps these pixels are compressed into JPEG format. Also, the 1dx cannot shoot at 14 fps per second, but I think it is interesting that it might be possible to shoot compressed 4k clips with this fantastic new camera.
neuroanatomist said:sb said:macfly said:Bye bye Canon, hello Nikon.
You won't be seeing me here anymore, good luck with new Prosumer 18mp camera kids, and keep an eye on EBay, all my lenses etc will be there soon.
LOL Sorry, you'll just have to learn to frame your shots properly to begin with, instead of relying on cropping a 50MP file. Or yes, you can switch to Nikon and work with 12MP out of spite LOLOL Priceless
I suspect macfly is referring to the rumored 36 MP D800. If you do a little digging into macfly instead of bashing him (which I admit, I was guilty of in the past), you'll find he's a pro with an impressive portfolio, and often shoots with medium format bodies in addition to dSLRs. He appears to have a real need for higher resolution for print ads (thus the MF cameras), and was clearly hoping for a higher MP body from Canon, from a professional perspective.
Having said that, for me, 18 MP is just fine...
Meh said:Another issue is the max sync speed is down to 1/250s which might bother outdoor shooters trying to overpower the sun with strobes... for example Dan Carr talks about his on his web-site. Overall, as another member stated earlier today, don't forget Canon is in the business to sell cameras and they are building this camera for the possibly the biggest segment of pros... those working in the field (rough and wet conditions) who need fast shutter speed and low light performance.
Canon-F1 said:Meh said:Another issue is the max sync speed is down to 1/250s which might bother outdoor shooters trying to overpower the sun with strobes... for example Dan Carr talks about his on his web-site. Overall, as another member stated earlier today, don't forget Canon is in the business to sell cameras and they are building this camera for the possibly the biggest segment of pros... those working in the field (rough and wet conditions) who need fast shutter speed and low light performance.
there is much nonsense in your post but this is the worst....
do you think 1/250 or 1/300 of a second makes a big difference in overpowering the sun?
please get a clue what you are talking about.....
kenraw said:This sounds like Canon have read my thoughts and made my perfect camera......how do I pre order? waiting till March is going to be torture to try one of these beasts out!