EOS 5D Mark IV Testing Has Begun [CR2]
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neuroanatomist said:
Seriously, I guess Nikon include a pop up flash on their 'prosumer' FF bodies because as a policy they don't want the cameras to lack anything that might lead a potential purchaser to not purchase 'because it hasn't got........'
Canon seem to be in a more secure position where they can leave out this 'feature' on FF because it's mostly a load of cobblers.
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Yepp... that's also my thought. Nice cite from the web may bring some further funny aspects...
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Back in the late 90s Minolta built a professional grade film camera called the Maxxum 9. It got panned by the photography industry press because it has a pull up flash. Of course "everyone knows" that pro cameras don't have a built in flash. Nobody has made that mistake since. [...]
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dilbert said:
No I mean Canon will support it when video software supports it.
No NLEs support HEVC = no support. Period.
I've no idea how a few encoding/decoding software & hardware relate to video production (the main purpose of the codec). Of course there are phones and TVs and transcoding apps that support it, long time ago.
Until Premiere, After Effects, Speedgrade, Avid media Composer, Sony Vegas, Da vinci resolve take/support H.265, it's not going to be used by video professionals, they will hate the codec canon decided to force upon them, one they need hours of transcoding before they can edit or view their footage.
That's not how Canon works, they release a supported codec that is accepted everywhere, even the XF-AVC codec on the flagship C300 MKII is taken by every piece of software/hardware there is, before the camera is released. If you want transcode H.265 to H.264 for hours after ingesting just to be able to cut, Canon doesn't offer that sorry, get an nx1,
but before you get an nx1 for H.265 first read how every video shooter hates the codec on that camera, as it offers no storage advantage (you need to transcode back to the big old h.264, or the huge ProRes to use it anyway) AND the compression quality is worse than H.264 of all the other 4K cameras, it shows horrible banding and compression blocking in the shadows. Imagine that. H.264 1080p mode on nx1 shows better compression quality than H.265 on the same camera albeit with bigger files which is negated by the fact you'll expand the H.265 to the same or bigger size as soon as you ingest the footage. Still want H.265 in your next DSLR? okay.
In the video world no one is requesting H.265 on an upcoming Canon DSLR, only on photography forums where they heard h.265 is a bigger number than h.264 thus Canon is doomed if they don't give us this ''feature". Absolutely none video producers request H.265, not a single one anywhere, not until the industry standard NLEs support it. Its day will come, it will replace H.264, but not now.
Let's leave video talk to video people, you guys are an absolute landmine of photography knowledge.
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Lee Jay said:vscd said:
It says Canon is stupid in this area and Nikon isn't.
I don't want a built in Flash in my future 5D IV.
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romanr74 said:Lee Jay said:vscd said:
It says Canon is stupid in this area and Nikon isn't.
I don't want a built in Flash in my future 5D IV.
This original post by Lee reminds me that Nikon should sack their designer.
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dilbert said:
Well, not including a flash made me buy one from Sunpac, not Canon, and not including the flash made me buy a 7D Mark II and a Sigma 18-35/1.8 instead of a 5D Mark something and a 35/2 IS. So, that choice has cost Canon a little over $2,000 of my money so far, and probably another $3,200 or so in the winter when I don't buy a 5D Mark IV.
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neuroanatomist said:Lee Jay said:
I'm sure they're heartbroken and have spent many hours shedding crocodile tears into their tea over that... :
I'd like to hear a testimony from someone who buys multiple high end electronics from a single source and truly believes they create exactly the ideally configured goods that single consumer desires and sells them at a fair price.
Two things:
You can please some of the people...yadda yadda yadda...
and:
So many times I hear the complaining on this forum and a certain Stones song runs through my mind.
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Lee Jay said:
If you're that fond of tiny direct flashes, pick up a white box 90ex for about $35 and stick it on your 5D, 1DX, 6D, etc. Same power, master flash capability, and very compact plus it's removable. Personally I can't think of a single time I used the pop-up on my xxD bodies where I *liked* the effect, even for fill or catch-lights, so I was pleased to see it removed to create a more robust top plate.
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wsheldon said:
As I've said repeatedly, I have a better compact flash than the 90EX, and I don't like that solution because it's always getting caught on things. That's actually why I like the popup - it's a far more rugged and reliable solution than an external flash because you can snap it down when not in use and it doesn't catch on things that way.
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Sporgon said:
huh? so because someone doens't mind have some rescue flash now and then, they need to give up everything else a FF delivers because they couldn't possibly care about FF?? huh?
sure sounds like you are trying to prove that it actually has everything to do with being a camera snob, kinda ironic. Anyway, thanks for helping to prove our point.
that's ridiculous logic
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dilbert said:
Yep, you are obviously right about that... but I have not seen your photography skills being improved after years being on CR complaining about Canon, plus you have not switched... Below image is shot for you (Note: With 5D Mark III and 24-105mm, not an HDR, straight into the sun, lenses hood was off to get the sun flare) while I was in Lone Pine, CA with a friend and a collodion/wet plate photography group (number of them are my co-workers)...
Details still show isn't it? Also shot with low ISO, which is ISO 100...
Thus, stop complaining and start learning...
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