EOS 7D Mark II Talk [CR1]

[Canon Rumors]

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<p><strong>Canon EOS 7D Mark II

</strong>We’ve heard a bit of talk recently about the follow-up to the EOS 7D. The same sort of time frame is still mentioned, an announcement in Q2 of 2014.</p>
<p>One suggestion is the 7D Mark II will become a bit more video oriented. So beyond a “pro” APS-C camera, it will also be highly desirable for the videographer. The camera as such will also retail well above the EOS 70D.</p>
<p>We’re also told any follow-up to the EOS 7D will get a new sensor and not use the 20.2mp sensor that is found in the EOS 70D.</p>
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[trulandphoto]

I, for one, am a bit tired of my bodies being "video oriented". My 5DII, 7D and 60D have not shot a second of video. I guess I'll just have to hang on to them until the pendulum swings a bit in the other direction.

 

[-Jarred-]

Yeah I don't use the video function on mine. But, as long as they don't compromise stills features in favour of video it doesn't bother me. Show me an improvement in ISO perf, a healthy burst and an upgrade to the focus system and I'll be sold.

 

[9VIII]

I for one don't mind having the dual functionality.

Now that we're not being told to expect the 70D sensor I've got my hopes back up for something with higher resolution. 32MP would be awesome as long as they keep the buffer up to 15 shots+ on full RAW.

 

[Lee Jay]

What could you add to the 70D to make it more video oriented?

Hybrid EVF/OVF viewfinder?
Faster frame rates below 1080p?
Higher resolution (4k)?
Smooth digital video zoom from full-frame to 1:1?
Quad pixel for 4-way AF sensors on every pixel?
Some sort of power zoom lens system?

 

[Lee Jay]

I for one don't mind having the dual functionality.

Now that we're not being told to expect the 70D sensor I've got my hopes back up for something with higher resolution. 32MP would be awesome as long as they keep the buffer up to 15 shots+ on full RAW.

I want a minimum 3 second raw buffer at maximum frame rate, preferably more.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

I might use video more if autofocus worked well.

 

[unfocused]

What could you add to the 70D to make it more video oriented?

Hybrid EVF/OVF viewfinder?
Faster frame rates below 1080p?
Higher resolution (4k)?
Smooth digital video zoom from full-frame to 1:1?
Quad pixel for 4-way AF sensors on every pixel?
Some sort of power zoom lens system?

I read it as more video oriented than the 7D, not necessarily more video oriented than the 70D.

Second quarter of 2014? Hmm. Seems like a long time between major announcements. That would coincide with Photokina though. Now, do it wait or do I go for a 6D in the meantime? Decisions...Decisions.

I know Canon would like me to buy both. Very clever on their part.

 

[AprilForever]

I, for one, am a bit tired of my bodies being "video oriented". My 5DII, 7D and 60D have not shot a second of video. I guess I'll just have to hang on to them until the pendulum swings a bit in the other direction.

I likewise am fed totally up with video. I want a stills optomized camera. I don't care about video.

However, I am sure that they are working on a new sensor for the 7D mk II. The 70D sensor will go for the XXXDs for a while and likely also the M-2....

Focus the camera on stills improvement and I will be happy. I want better AF, better build quality, and and at least two stops of improvement in ISO performance.

Video I don't care a rat for.

 

[serendipidy]

I, for one, am a bit tired of my bodies being "video oriented". My 5DII, 7D and 60D have not shot a second of video. I guess I'll just have to hang on to them until the pendulum swings a bit in the other direction.

I likewise am fed totally up with video. I want a stills optomized camera. I don't care about video.

However, I am sure that they are working on a new sensor for the 7D mk II. The 70D sensor will go for the XXXDs for a while and likely also the M-2....

Focus the camera on stills improvement and I will be happy. I want better AF, better build quality, and and at least two stops of improvement in ISO performance.

Video I don't care a rat for.

+1...never use it.

 

[Harry Muff]

Add me to the list of people sick of paying all that extra cash for a function I don't want.




Love my 5D3, don't care about video.

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

What could you add to the 70D to make it more video oriented?

Hybrid EVF/OVF viewfinder?
Faster frame rates below 1080p?
Higher resolution (4k)?
Smooth digital video zoom from full-frame to 1:1?
Quad pixel for 4-way AF sensors on every pixel?
Some sort of power zoom lens system?

A ton! No line skipping for FAR less aliasing and moire and better SNR. Focus peaking, live 10x focus box, RAW video recording, non-mangled up compressed video/HDMI out video, zebras, zoomed modes including 1:1, 4k, etc. etc.

I know it's popular if you are a still shooter to laugh off video, but seriously why not expand your creativity to new world. 5D3 ML RAW video is pretty stunning! Some things work better as video, just as some work better as stills and many work equally as well.

 

[mps]

What could you add to the 70D to make it more video oriented?

Hybrid EVF/OVF viewfinder?
Faster frame rates below 1080p?
Higher resolution (4k)?
Smooth digital video zoom from full-frame to 1:1?
Quad pixel for 4-way AF sensors on every pixel?
Some sort of power zoom lens system?

- fixed moire / aliasing issues
- better codec
- faster framerates AT 1080p. 240fps like on the fs700 is possible and would be a HUGE selling point
- no need for 4k - and for sure will not be there - who else would then buy the 12k 1DC?
- no need for digital zoom, but a 1:1 mode like on the gh2 would be nice to see
- clean hdmi out
- zebra / focus peaking
- basically a pre installed magic lantern
- a quote from another website: "the first who dares to implement 10bit 4:2:2 will win this game" - but i highly doubt this one will come from sony/canon/panasonics - maybe nikon will surprise us someday? after all they wouldnt kill their professional video lineup (since they dont have one)
- not sure if its is possible to build a hybrid viewfinder on a dslr, but would be nice to see.... otherwise maybe a fixed metal frame at the screen to place these aftermarkets LCDVFs onto? not many people like to glue it on afterwards....

some of you dont need a videofunction? well, others do. for every hour of footage i take 1 photo with my (well, my company's) 7d. hm, only kind of true since we timelapse quite a bit - but this does count more as filming than taking photos, right? so actually there are some folks out there really wanting a video dslr

 

[Sella174]

How about the 7D Mark II being basically a 70D, but with a sensor which starts with ISO 800 ... meaning it has an optimised, high-ISO sensor designed for high-speed and low-light photography.

 

[AvTvM]

The more "video-oriented" Canon makes their cameras, the less likely i am going to buy them.
Canon read my lips: I have never captured video, i have no desire to capture video, i will never capture video. And if I were interested in capturing video, i would use a video cam. You want me to buy a new camera from you? Make it stills- optimized. Make the camera small. Make it mirrorless. Make the sensor larger ... Yes, 36x24 mm will be fine. Make it something that makes it easier and more likely for me to capture those still images i would like to capture.

 

[Sella174]

Well, since everyone is ranting about video ... that is probably the main reason I've not updated my cameras with the latest models. I do not need, want nor desire video and the current models hence do not present an upgrade in stills functionality for me. So, Canon, you win some with video and you lose some due to it ... that new Sony A7 looks pretty awesome for stills photography.

 

[Ricku]

Dear Canon.

F U and your video orientation.

 

[xps]

Shooting videos is an actual trend. More and more handycams offer sending these to social media (youtube,...).
Maybe Canon want to meet this trend too.

In my opinion Canon has an burning problem: Every other Camera manufacturer releases new, improved, quite better Cam-sensors than Canon does.
In an German photo-magazine (Color foto) an comparison between the 70D and the Olympus OMD EM1 shows that other manufacturer have quite better sensors than Canon has. Canon has to hurry on, their revolutionary new AF is beaten by some mirrorless cams.

On the other hand, the late release date of the 7D2, combined with an looooooong time between announcement and product release - and even an exclusively right on selling it by professional Canon stores first, could be well thought-out by Canon to maximize their profit too.

But who knows....?

 

[Eldar]

CANON PLEASE LISTEN: I DON'T DO VIDEO!!! I'M NOT INTERESTED IN VIDEO!!! I WANT A STILLS OPTIMIZES CAMERA!!!

Good to get it out ...

I want more pixles, improved dynamic range, higher fps, improved AF, improved silent mode, ruggedness and weather sealing, plus a few more. I prefer FF, but could well be interested in a good APS-C or APS-H body. I have a 7D and a 1DIV, but I currently don't use them, because the 1DX and 5DIII is so much better. A 7D-II and/or a 1DV could well change that.

 

[Woody]

We’re also told any follow-up to the EOS 7D will get a new sensor and not use the 20.2mp sensor that is found in the EOS 70D.

The sensor may be different, but the still image quality will be nearly the same, just like the 70D 20 MP sensor vs 700D 18 MP sensor. IOW, zero improvement in dynamic range.