EOS 80D first impressions

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axtstern

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Got my 80D on Thursday

Sometimes I wonder why I read reviews on Dpreview and other pages wben they miss kr skip the things essential to me.

I had sold my 60 a while ago,holding out with my 5D3. So the question was giving in on the 80 after skipping the 70 or wait for the 90...

Went into an expensive Pro Store to buy an Interval Timer. Made a joke that they finally had recieved an 80D Poster for their wall when they told me they have the camera as well.

Tried it for 5 Minutes than handed over the cash.

Ok.. The 80D

Feels very, very plastic. When gripping it my fingernails made a sound like drumming on a blister package.
Coming from the 5D3 it was a DejaVu like changing from the 30D to the 60D: No joystick, this excuse of a control wheel and no magnesium to touch nowhere.

Well so you feel you spen 1300 for a Rebel until...
You look through the viewer and fall in love.
Afterwards you go through the setup and the love deepens.
It is no more the 5D menu but better. All the things on the 5D which might make sense for Some Pro but never for me are now sorted proper. And there is a lot of power behind the button.
So switch on anti flicker, reduce focus options to three, switch on level view. Switch on grid but leave focus highlighting on standard.
Now look again through the viewer and as long as you are not in to buy a 1DX2 this is the best Canon you held so far.

The picture quality is awesome. All my 5D can offer except the shallow dept of field is there, all I want from a crop camera except build in GPS as well.

The viewer overlay is brilliant. If the 5D with its dark AF display or its strange later fixes frustrated you.. Canon has learned. If you are in need of an electronic level...This time it is displayed in a usefull way.

Seldom used functions? This time you find them fast and where you expect
Them to be.
 
#2
Thanks for sharing your impressions, Axtstern - those are exactly the sort of comments I've been hoping to hear from people, particularly with regards to image quality. I think the 80D could be my next body.

Cheers,
d.
 
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axtstern said:
Feels very, very plastic. When gripping it my fingernails made a sound like drumming on a blister package.
Coming from the 5D3 it was a DejaVu like changing from the 30D to the 60D: No joystick, this excuse of a control wheel and no magnesium to touch nowhere.
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Some of the online (p)review also mentioned those build quality concerns; disappointing given the high initial price, but indeed it is the inside that really counts.
 
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nhz said:
axtstern said:
Feels very, very plastic. When gripping it my fingernails made a sound like drumming on a blister package.
Coming from the 5D3 it was a DejaVu like changing from the 30D to the 60D: No joystick, this excuse of a control wheel and no magnesium to touch nowhere.
Click to expand...
Some of the online (p)review also mentioned those build quality concerns; disappointing given the high initial price, but indeed it is the inside that really counts.
Click to expand...

Plastic shell is always going to "give" a bit compared to metal. I presume there hasn't actually been a decline in build quality compared to the 70D - there are also previews that have described the body as quite solid.
 
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Sharlin said:
nhz said:
axtstern said:
Feels very, very plastic. When gripping it my fingernails made a sound like drumming on a blister package.
Coming from the 5D3 it was a DejaVu like changing from the 30D to the 60D: No joystick, this excuse of a control wheel and no magnesium to touch nowhere.
Click to expand...
Some of the online (p)review also mentioned those build quality concerns; disappointing given the high initial price, but indeed it is the inside that really counts.
Click to expand...

Plastic shell is always going to "give" a bit compared to metal. I presume there hasn't actually been a decline in build quality compared to the 70D - there are also previews that have described the body as quite solid.
Click to expand...

I prefer metal from the standpoint of look and feel. But:
* Metal increases weight and more mass contributes to gain more energy if a camera falls down.
* Metal shells do not crack easily - but a crack means that the shell has taken some of the energy during an impact after deformation - and deformation means less forces on the inner parts of the camera.
* My old Canon EF suffered from an impact: The brass shell was deformed plastically by 5-10mm and some inner parts were broken.

So I am with you: The inside really counts! And Plastics might help to protect the inside.

@axtstern: The 80D becomes more and more interesting to me too as a universal camera for HQ stills AND video. 2k/1080p is absolutely sufficient for me. Usability/ergonomics is much more important to me and I really like DPAF from what I heard. Thanks for your lines.
 
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axtstern said:
Got my 80D on Thursday

Sometimes I wonder why I read reviews on Dpreview and other pages wben they miss kr skip the things essential to me.
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DPR did only partial review. Typically at the beginning they only test DR or sensor (5 stop pushing screen) and eye tracking in portrait photography (moving camera around eye of static plastic model). They are going to take some time to publish full review.
Their initial review is always tailored to strengths of high DR sensor and Nikon 3D / iTR tracking. They typically says Nikon d7200 is still better and bench marker in DR test (don't talk anything about how they are holding their studio test colors) and How Nikon 3D tracking is best. They follow up with detailed review where they give lot of information.
 
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Member of your local photo-club got his 80D yesterday. There are some limitations, as it is no "single-number"D body. BUT: AF works fine with 100-400II and 1.4x extender. He can use a lot of the AF points, not only the center AF (like me on the 7DII). And this is an big advantage at BIF, as you do not have to center the AF permanently. We shot some near moving birds (gulls, ducks, swans) in flight (well known place on the Chiemsee yesterday). Edit: My friend wrote to me recently, that, if using the central AF-Area, nearly all shots were sharp. If the AF-points are used from the outside Area, more than 3/4 or the shots were perfectly sharp. :D

And I am sorry, but the IQ is more than just a little bit better than the 7DII, especially at dawn when the light got smooth. More colours, more contrast and the 4MP more are fine if you crop. We compared some taken pictures and I am looking to buy an 80D too. Used at shooting slow flying big birds (cranes, ...) far away from me, the 80D will be worth the money, as I need an second crop body. So I can use 80D+100-400+1.4 & 7DII+600+1.4.

For me, the 80D will be the choice as an normal shooter if you go 100-400II & 1.4x extender.
The improvements of the 80D are sometimes not visible from the first sight (sorry foor poorest English), but it will be an big improvement, if built in an coming XD body
 
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Grats on your new acq. / tool ;)
Do you also have the EF-S 18-135mm IS USM lens? If you care share some of your experience, and it would be greatly appreciated by the forum users here.

Just want to know if it works well on other bodies if you have say 7D II / SL1 or other rebels.
Enjoy the brand new DSLR and AF system!
 
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SteveSHH said:
Grats on your new acq. / tool ;)
Do you also have the EF-S 18-135mm IS USM lens? If you care share some of your experience, and it would be greatly appreciated by the forum users here.

Just want to know if it works well on other bodies if you have say 7D II / SL1 or other rebels.
Enjoy the brand new DSLR and AF system!
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Sorry, I only have EF lenses. I do intend to do a couple shots this weekend to compare 6D and 80D IQ. I will post if possible.
 
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Gratz on your purchase. I just bought a 1Dx and coming from 7D2 (it's gonna become my backup body), I am a bit uncertain what kind of feels will I be getting due to the lack of intelligent VF, as I really fell in love with that feature. Although the VF on 1Dx definitely is A LOT bigger and brighter, that 15 seconds I tested it out, it felt somewhat empty and sad haha
 
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#16
Anybody else noticed the weak colors compared to a 70D, 6D or 5Ds? Identical to 750/760D and Eos M3. Seems to be something about the 24 Megapixels affecting color rendition?

This guy noticed the same thing comparing the M3 to M1, check the comparison under "image quality":
http://www.johnniebutters.com/2015/03/canon-eos-m3-review-vs-original-eos-m.html

I hope Canon is not sacrificing its awesome colors for resolution?
 

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PhotoGuy said:
Anybody else noticed the weak colors compared to a 70D, 6D or 5Ds?
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Yes, I've noticed. So, I asked a question on the Photoshop feedback forum.
As it tuns out, Adobe have recently changed their color profile for Canon cameras:
https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/potential-issue-with-canon-80d-color-saturation-in-lr6-5?topic-reply-list

With the old profile, Canon colors have a much more saturated red channel.
And with the new profile, Lightroom and ACR render 80D colors the same way as on newer Sony cameras (e.g. A6300 and A7RII).

The new colors are presumably more faithful (??) - but I actually like the old saturated colors better.
No wonder I almost never increased saturation in post.
 
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