EOS 80D first impressions

[bdunbar79]

Geez man, read between the lines. I'm telling you that it is not a Sony sensor: It is not a Sony sensor.

 

[faustino]

FYI - I'm not saying I 100% believe (and will therefore defend to the death) the rumor I shared. I'm simply saying it is within the realm of possibility and therefore could indeed be true to some extent. It just is what it is. A rumor.

A simple Google search turns up the following hits (I didn't read them all, it's just for the sake of argument that this is a pretty common discussion)....

http://www.++++++++rumors.com/canon-to-use-sony-sensors-on-their-future-dslr-cameras/
http://photo.stackexchange.com/questions/69457/what-camera-companies-make-their-own-sensors
http://photorumors.com/2015/02/06/the-new-50mp-sensor-inside-the-canon-eos-5ds-camera-is-not-made-by-sony/
http://improvephotography.com/35440/state-of-the-camera-industry-report-how-much-trouble-are-canon-and-nikon-in/
http://petapixel.com/2014/11/03/rumor-canon-use-sony-multi-layer-sensors-two-upcoming-cameras/
https://www.slrlounge.com/canon-use-sony-sensors-upcoming-dslrs-rumor/
http://thenewcamera.com/canon-upcoming-dslrs-may-use-sony-sensor/
http://connect.dpreview.com/post/7228456320/sony-has-40-percent-share-of-image-sensor-market

Thank you for sharing your sources.
I have read some, and it seems that they don't say that "most (if not all) Canon cameras from now on will have Sony built sensors". They say that Canon may source more and more sensors in the future from Sony and, maybe, in a couple of generations (which would be 6 years) they may introduce such sensors in pro bodies.

This is a rumor that was known, what surprised me was the statement that Canon is from now on going to source all their future sensors from Sony and I was asking to understand the level of reliability of such statement. Anyhow, I understand it is a legitimate rumor and there is a remote possibility (CR0) that it may come out to be true.

 

[rrcphoto]

Feels very, very plastic. When gripping it my fingernails made a sound like drumming on a blister package.
Coming from the 5D3 it was a DejaVu like changing from the 30D to the 60D: No joystick, this excuse of a control wheel and no magnesium to touch nowhere.

canon never claimed otherwise. what did you expect? I'm curious.

one of the reasons why I never bothered with the XXD series was the ergonomics went down between the 7/5D and sits right in between the rebel and 7/5D series.

 

[rrcphoto]

FYI - I'm not saying I 100% believe (and will therefore defend to the death) the rumor I shared. I'm simply saying it is within the realm of possibility and therefore could indeed be true to some extent. It just is what it is. A rumor.

it didn't happen.

for starters the noise is entirely different between the sony sensors of today and canon's.

not to mention it's a DPAF sensor.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Chipworks will probably be taking a look at the 80D sensor, so we will findout if its a
Sony.
The DPAF Sensor in the Samsung S7 is Sony, and is using some very advanced manufacturing tech that Sony has not yet announced. This will indeed put pressure on Camera makers to buy into Sony sensors, I expect them to find their way into Canon DSLR's at some point, Sony has excess capacity right now, so their price may be dropping.

 

[zim]

Geez man, read between the lines. I'm telling you that it is not a Sony sensor: It is not a Sony sensor.

Even this one line is read betweenable . ;D

 

[rrcphoto]

Chipworks will probably be taking a look at the 80D sensor, so we will findout if its a
Sony.
The DPAF Sensor in the Samsung S7 is Sony

not quite.
it was fabbed by sony for samsung, who in turn also makes an equivalent sensor in house as well for their S7.

 

[K-amps]

Because it doesn't make any sense. Even if I had no inside knowledge, I still could point out that Canon has explicitly said that their new on-die ADC is their own technology. There are plenty of sites with several interviews on this topic. Secondly, it doesn't make any sense that Canon would share their DPAF technology with anyone. Whether your local camera shop staff has 30+ years experience or not, they are just plain wrong.

Sorry.

I am with you on this ... the shadow lifts are not as clean as exmors...and the AA filter is quite noticeable... a very Canon like sensor. However without lifting shadows, it's cleaner than the Sony a6300 output at base iso, this is definitely new tech, it might simply be Canon sharing patents with Sony and vice versa. Its quite a good sensor... except for that overpowering AA filter robbing details despite sharpening in post. The noisier a6300 sensor has more details. I have been considering picking one up as a second body for Wildlife each.

 

[Nado]

Has anyone performed a dynamic range test in "stops". Curious.

 

[d]

Has anyone performed a dynamic range test in "stops". Curious.

http://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

so heres the big question
is the 80D better overall then 7d2??

For pro level photography, I'd take the 7D MK II.

However, better is a term that's hard to pin down. Its probably better for someone moving up from entry level, for someone who is concerned about weight, or its better video AF will help take videos of the kids playing soccer or just running around. I checked one out at the local camera store, its a fine camera, but not up to the 7D MK II level of construction which is desirable for rugged use.

I've held off on the 7D MK II and the 80D waiting for a 5D MK IV.

 

[kphoto99]

Has anyone performed a dynamic range test in "stops". Curious.

http://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm

Interesting graph if true. The 70D is really bad with in between ISO settings, worst then any semi modern Canon DSLR going all the way back to 40D