Final shopping list for tomorrow..

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bchernicoff said:
Your list looks really good, but I would strongly suggest you consider Sigma's 12-14 over Canon's 17-40. You can get some mental shots up close at 12mm and of course it's great for landscapes.

I shot this timelapse at 12mm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hn4VRi6gpw

Great qulity on that TL, nice job mate!
I'v tried the sigma 12-24 myself...wow, that wide FL is phenomenal...and I'm on crop LOL.
Dunno about the IQ, if it can compete with the canon glass but hey, when I tried it looked impressive.

Speaking of timelapses, here's one to see how a 16mm looks both on FOV and IQ on a crop (so what you'd see on your 60D).
some shots are with the 70-200 but you'll figure it out what are the UW shots.
Let me show off a bit ahah ;D
Cant wait to put it on my pretty near future 5D purchase LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO7yKpYPuFw

Off course, watch it in 1080p... ;) makes it justice to the quality effort.
Wish I had that 12mm FL on this project I made...Cant really wait for the FF to arrive...16mm on FF is what I'm looking for...even if also the 14 prime is my dream oohhh well...too much money
 
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mreco99 said:
Good call, the 70-300L was very tempting

I have been tempted by the 70-300 L, despite having both the 70-200 II (with both 1.4x and 2x TCs) and the 100-400. The 70-300 would make a nice compromise for weight-limited travel. But if I had to pick only one of the three, it would be the 70-200/2.8 II, no doubt.

mreco99 said:
Comparing the 70-200mk2 at 400mm and the 100-400canon at 400 is a useful excersice, the 100-400 even though 12+ years old still is better than using the 2xmk3 converter. Let hope the converter doesnt make the images unusable.

I will keep my 450D for now, and want to see how that fairs with the 70-200 with the 2x converter (assuming itll fit!)

Yes, that's not surprising. A native lens will almost always beat a lens + TC. But the world isn't made of ISO 12233 charts - the 70-200 II + 2x definitely produces usable results. It will work fine on your 450D, too. I use the combo on my 7D when I need weather sealing, since the 100-400mm lacks a lens mount gasket.

Here are a couple samples with the 70-200 + 2x II, on 5DII and 7D (click for lightbox, from there View All Sizes gets you a 1600x1067 version, if you like).


EOS 5D Mark II, EF 70-200mm f/2.8L II IS USM + EF 2x II Extender @ 260mm, 1/250 s, f/5.6, ISO 400


EOS 7D, EF 70-200mm f/2.8L II IS USM + EF 2x II Extender @ 400mm, 1/160 s, f/5.6, ISO 3200
 
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Late to the game here but I rented the 70-300L for a trip recently and was quite happy with the result. That is until I got to try the 70-200 2.8L IS II. Yes the reach is more with the 70-300, but the IMO of the 70-200 is on a different planet! The 70-200 2.8L IS II gives you prime lens equivalent quality - first time I see this from a zoom lens - amazing.
 
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Good little shopping list. Well thought out..

A few notes you may want to think about:

1 - Extender - do you NEED 2x? Remember you will lose 2 stops of light, and your lightning fast 2.8 suddenly turns into a 5.6. The 1.4x mk3 is fantastic and you will only lose 1 stop. Obviously you know your needs not me, but worth remembering how much light you lose, I've also found in my personal usage that every 2x i've used has yielded less than ideal results. But i'm not an experienced birder like a lot of these forum members who use them frequently, mine was for photojournalism during some riots where i wanted some distance. I'm sure a lot of people have great results, but even in forum reading i see far more favourable reviews of the 1.4 over the 2x.


2 - Bags - Because you are carrying a fair bit of gear, be careful with backpacks, i find they can be a bit dicky with a lot of weight. I have about a zillion bags and hard cases (I use Vanguard hard cases vs Pelican... same quality and good price).
BUT i find the Lowepro Stealth Reporter series is great. You can quickly access lenses without picking up your bag and dropping things because your clasps werent done up. If it is for work (as you mentioned) stress gets to you and I have a habit of accidentally dropping the most expensive thing in reach when i get stressed.

3 - Primes - 50mm 1.2... an amazing lens. Very interestingly spoken about on forums, those that don't own them tend to slag them off yet those that have them love them. I ALWAYS have it mounted on one of my cameras.

4 - cf/battery - don't listen to the person who questioned the spare battery and the extra card... haha.... I have 6 memory cards, and still ordered more with CR guys post on Sandisk prices dropping, I have 8 batteries and still go close to running flat. When you spend almost every day shooting, or if it's imperative that you don't miss a shot you NEED spare batteries.
CF cards are another big thing too, if you are shooting on RAW a 16gb card doesn't last long. If i was you i'd pick up another while they are cheap... or grab a 32, I picked up 2 x 32gb 90mbs cards at BH

5 - UV filters - i know you have already discussed filters, but have you got uv filters to protect an accidental scratch on your beautiful big 77mm lenses? No point spending the money to put a dirty big scratch on it!

6 - Grip - i love my grip... amazing for shooting portrait, also brilliant for work as when you are on location and you are running out of juice you can throw some AA's in it to get you to the end. Definitely worth the money. Also with video it adds some weight to help you stay steady, as well as being great when shooting portrait.


I reckon since you are holding off on the ultrawide angle, if i was you I'd buy another memory card, a grip (generic with 2 batteries is about 70), and some UV filters....

Hope it helps.... I know how good the feeling is opening up a big box of goodies.

I'm going in to order my 28-300 tomorrow and i'm excited :)
 
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Thanks for all the comments and support.

Back home now, shopping all done.

Castle Cameras in Salisbury, UK were very helpful, good shop.

I got everything on the list, including free spare battery and 2 16gb 400x sandisk cards (one was free)
Also got a tamrac aero 85 backpack (reduced price)
http://www.warehouseexpress.com/buy-tamrac-aerospeed-85-rust-rucksack/p1030179
Everything fits in well (except the hoods, they might have to go in the top part. And theres still room for the 16-35 eventually. I knew one thing the bag didnt have was a waterproof cover, will have to get a seperate one.

Writing this as the battery is STILL charging!!!........

(love the images with the 2x converter)

Maybe i should have waited till the 5Dmk3, but its done now, and i can stop checking 5 times a day to see if theres any news, this will have to last a while!!
 
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mreco99 said:
Thanks for all the comments and support.

Back home now, shopping all done.

Maybe i should have waited till the 5Dmk3, but its done now, and i can stop checking 5 times a day to see if theres any news, this will have to last a while!!

gratz buddy

Isn't the most superb and awesome feeling when you come back with such beauties bought?!?!
Ahhh I love when it happens to me eheh.

LOL yeah, you made the right choice...I'm about to dash some money into the 5D as well, too tired of waiting...and if the mk III comes out, well I sell out my pristine newly acquired 5D and the 7D, add some money and voilà...too tired myself
Now, onto sparing some more money LOL.

Cheers man and enjoy it
 
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Tried the 70-200+2x TC on the 450D, very nice (still waiting for 5d battery charge)
big improvement on my old 70-300 non L

but the exif info says 380mm FL, doesnt it register the 2xTC ie should be 200x2x1.6=640mm FL
Put the iso on 800 and f5.6 as its getting dim outside, and still looks nice hand held
 
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Focal length is a property of the lens. No matter the camera, 70-200mm + 2x is 140-400mm, and the EXIF will report that. Did your old 70-300 non-L report focal lengths between 112-480mm on your 450D? Nope. If you're seeing anything over 200mm in the EXIF with the 70-200, the TC is registering.

Congrats, BTW!
 
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neuroanatomist said:
Focal length is a property of the lens. No matter the camera, 70-200mm + 2x is 140-400mm, and the EXIF will report that. Did your old 70-300 non-L report focal lengths between 112-480mm on your 450D? Nope. If you're seeing anything over 200mm in the EXIF with the 70-200, the TC is registering.

Congrats, BTW!
got it, yes its reporting 400mm so really getting 640mm, a nice bonus i wasnt expecting, and carrying the 450d body is alot lighter than anything else in the bag now lol
 
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mreco99 said:
Did this CR3 just totally fall by the wayside? way back in Jan 2009?

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EF 17-40 f/4L II [CR3]

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From a usually solid source. I´m told to expect an update to the 17-40 sometime in 2009. The current lens a cash cow for Canon and any replacement is sure to be a hot seller. The main purpose for the upgrade is to improve full frame performance. The replacement will not have IS.


Hey, no... CR3 was different back then. I believe I had CR1-CR4. That must be horribly confusing looking back on things. Should I make note of that somewhere?

Search [CR4] on CR.

http://www.canonrumors.com/?s=%5BCR4%5D
 
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Im guessing there must be a different type of HDMI cable as the one in my ps3 doesnt fit into the camera. There was no HDMI cable in the box :-(

Why does the sun take so long to come back up!
 
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Canon Rumors said:
mreco99 said:
Im guessing there must be a different type of HDMI cable as the one in my ps3 doesnt fit into the camera. There was no HDMI cable in the box :-(

Why does the sun take so long to come back up!

Yeah, Mini HDMI to HDMI.

thanks, ordered one, only a couple of pounds, should have been in the box.
 
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Little update for anyone interested.

Went out to the local nature reserve, bit late in the day but got the last hour of sunlight. Backpack loaded was very comfortable, just used the 5d+70-200, can only echo most other people, lovely. While heavy it wasnt a pain to carry around.
Im not sure how my sunsniper strap (or more to the point the lens mount) is going to cope if the camera and 70-200 is hanging around the side of my hip as i walk, so i was pretty much holding the lens all the time (anyone know?)
Ordered a couple of clear lens filters for protection, and the waterproof cover for backpack (tamrac MX5352)

Camera controls are pretty easy to get used to as i was used to the 450D.

The movie mode will be nice, now i found the way to get it started. One thing, i assumed IS would be useful for the movie mode, it is but you really hear the IS working all the time on the movie playback (with the built in mic)
Not having auto focus in movie mode makes making movies a little tricky but i knew that, movies is just a bonus function for me.

Another thing, i really dont get what the extra switch does on the ON/OFF switch (the one that points to the jog dial thing). I read the manual on it, and i just dont see it makes any difference.

These RAW are large, up to 34mb each so far, but my laptop is coping with them fine, was a little concerned it would make the laptop chug.
 
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The middle position on the on-off switch is 'lock' - it prevents the quick control dial from doing anything in certain situations. Most notably, changing the exposure compensation setting so all subsequent shots are over or under exposed. Personally, I never set it to lock, only on or off, but I have inadvertantly changed the EC a few times (I always check exposure before shooting, though, so I just change it back if that happens).
 
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Thanks Neuro.


Anyone any ideas on this bit
"Im not sure how my sunsniper strap (or more to the point the lens mount) is going to cope if the camera and 70-200 is hanging around the side of my hip as i walk, so i was pretty much holding the lens all the time (anyone know?)"

The sun sniper basically screws into the tripod hole and the camera and lens hang from that from your shoulder to your hip.
Its good and comfortable, but im just concerned that weight on 5D+70-200 is either too much for the lens mount or the tripod hole.
For any other lens combo im not concerned.
 
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mreco99 said:
i might have answered my own question :-\

On the sun sniper page
http://www.sun-sniper.com/
They clearly show a canon with a white long lens with the strap attached, it didnt even cross my mind to screw it into the tripod collar!! DOH that'll ease the strain on the lens mount

You definitely want to attach the strap to the tripod collar on a lens which has one!

Does your Giottos tripod/head use Arca Swiss plates? If so, I wrote up a post on a QR solution for BlackRapid (same idea as Sunsniper) that works with Arca Swiss.
 
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