That's because you didn't own the 1DS MkIII
That has an absolutely beautiful low iso output especially for skin tones. At less than $1,000 on the used market they have to be the bargain of secondhand DSLR's.
First look: Canon RF 50mm f/1.2L USM Image Quality
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That has an absolutely beautiful low iso output especially for skin tones. At less than $1,000 on the used market they have to be the bargain of secondhand DSLR's.
I'm sure you're right ! I find it interesting that these cameras from a few generations back, 10 years or more so a lifetime in digital, are still so good when compared with the latest gear for portraiture yet when it comes to subtle colour fidelity in a landscape shot for instance, especially differentiating the most subtle tonal differences in greens, they are way behind.That's because you didn't own the 1DS MkIII
If we replace 'stellar' with 'best in class' then HDM's evaluation would make better sense. But a problem remains with his evaluation. An always relavant question to ask in these instances is: Which camera sold today by a top camera maker produces bad photos when used according to its intended purpose? 'Good photos' here means 'acceptable to a reasonable person' that knows photography. The R, with its banding problems, will likely produce good photos in most instances. The 5D IV produces good photos. Neither camera has a best in class sensor. Reasonable and knowledgeable photographers use the 5D IV.
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Why does Canon need these sensors? To make more money than it makes now? To stand atop the hill?
I would characterize the differences as significant, at least to the kind of images I produce. Canon still leads on color science, lens design, and user interface, so a class-leading Canon sensor in a 5D5 or 5DsRII (or coming high-res, pro R body) would be the holy grail for me and I think for a lot of other people, too.
The GFX/D850 are right at the point where new sensor improvements will have diminishing returns, but Canon isn't quite there yet. (I'm revisiting your "how good is good enough" statement.) Of course, at some point we will get a generational improvement with global shutters and organic sensor dynamic range, and we can reset expectations accordingly.
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I learned today the RF50 has 4 stops of vignetting wide open, that’s no good, in fact it might be a deal breaker... especially since AF coverage is one of the big reasons I’m buying the EOS R... was there really no way to keep it around 2,5 stops? Wow... and if the R shows banding when correcting 4 stops that means useless corners , no matter how sharp they are... bah...
Never used the original 5D so can’t speak for it, but out of all the cameras I’ve used since 2010 when I got serious, I like the 5DSR rendition the best. Shots taken with the 100 or 85 - when exposed correctly, the images are almost perfect out of camera, very little if any PP needed on my part. The skin tones, OOC colors, and rendering make it my favorite camera for that use. In fact, if it wasn’t for the lack of speed, I’d probably be using it as my main camera...
It’s worse with vignetting, the RF has FOUR stops... I was so disappointed ...
Yes, the 5Ds/sr is superb. My main camera now. Finally banished the nostalgic ghostly yearning of MF or even LF film.
TDP has some intiltal tests of performance among others, vignetting and found FOUR stops. Ken Rockwell also has a test of image quality etc. Did I not mention that in the previous post?
It’s REALLY sharp, but what good is f1.2 when the corners are f5.
That is exactly also my dilemma. I am saving up to a 24-70 f/2.8 mkII, but when will EF mount/ EOS DSLR be a dead end? Probably not the first 5 to 10 years, but I guess it will be sometime in the future, and that is quite frustrating.
I had a go with the RF50 yesterday and my god what a lens! I’m buying for sure! The IQ at 1.2 is almost not rivaled by anything larger than f2.0 in any lens ever. It’s amazing.
And I did not notice a lot of vignetting at all, so I don’t know how TDP got theirs to show four stops. I say it’s very close to the 85 f1.4 L.
And the lack of aberrations even in the extreeeeme cornes is crazy. It’s sharper at 1.2 by quite some bit than my 35 L II... AF is instant and so certain. It made my 85 L IS seem like a toy. Also much lighter than I expected.
And I did not notice a lot of vignetting at all, so I don’t know how TDP got theirs to show four stops. I say it’s very close to the 85 f1.4 L.
And the lack of aberrations even in the extreeeeme cornes is crazy. It’s sharper at 1.2 by quite some bit than my 35 L II... AF is instant and so certain. It made my 85 L IS seem like a toy. Also much lighter than I expected.