Fuji x100s + Canon Speedlites?
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Dylan777 said:JohnDizzo15 said:Dylan777 said:JohnDizzo15 said:
Very cuteIt looks like you having fun ;D
I have two (2.5 & 5yrs)
Thank you
2.5 and 5 year old? I hope it's not as painful an experience as the one I have over here with my 1 and 7 year old.
It has been fun this weekend shooting with the new rig. I almost hate to say it, but I don't know that I'll be reaching for my other rig very often for a while unless there is some very specific thing I need to do that I can't figure out a way to accomplish with the Fuji.
I have been very impressed with the IQ and noise handling even at higher ISOs. The AF is plenty fast for almost all applications that I encounter regularly and it is jam packed with most of the tools I'll need on the fly.
The fact that it also works well with my existing lighting equipment is even better. That leaf shutter + ND filter.....I just can't say enough about them.
+1...not a lot of people understand it though
With 2 kids, the last thing I want to do is to carry 5D III + 24-70 to disneyland. I have Sony A7 + Zeiss 55mm on pre-order. If this camera works out as I planned, I might just end up with one 5D III + 135L and 70-200 for shooting kids running around.(selling list will be: 5D III, 50L, 85L II, and 24-70).
Funny you mention a sell list. I was just contemplating it last night before I fell asleep. I was thinking I would just keep the 5D along with the tele lenses just like you said since size and awesomeness won't come any smaller than that in longer FLs anyway. Although along with the two lenses you mentioned, I might have to also hold onto the 85ii and the tse lenses.
More than anything, I just want to prep for what Fuji has coming next as I have read on their respective forum that the next year or two will be huge for them. Don't know if you have read about it yet, but look up their organic sensor tech they are developing. Seems intriguing to say the least. I'm hoping that their full frame offering will build on the same awesomeness of their ASP-C lines.
Excited to see image samples and hear about your findings with your upcoming acquisition. I am very intrigued by both the body and the lens. You are a lucky guy to be getting both already.
Agreed regarding the large/heavy rigs while chasing kids around. The Fuji has also allowed me to get over the whole anxiety of figuring out and making sure I have everything I need with me. Yes, there will be times when I need more speed/light and different focal lengths. But day to day, I am set......for now
It has been rather liberating to forget that I even have a camera strapped to my side half the time.
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WPJ said:
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There were definitely several adjustments I wanted to make for the scene (felt like some of the bushes were too far under). But my son is not easy to make stand there while you tweak set up for another shot (especially when he wants to run off and play). Though all things considered, I was happy with the results.
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JohnDizzo15 said:
Never apologize for pictures of your children... part of my day job is doing portraits of other peoples children, but I never get tired of taking photos of mine or showing them. Probably my most important job as a dad and the main reason I started looking for alternatives to the DSLR. It was starting to become more about the camera than the pictures, with the Fuji you can have your cake and eat it too ;D
So, after having it in your hands for a bit... any wishes for the next Fuji? I'd like a faster AF (phase contrast) and FF but interchangeable lenses. I have the Xpro-1 but not my favorite camera, it was put out before they addressed the X100 issues with the redesign of the X100S. Hoping the Xpro-2 contains all the current development pluses and I can move on to it. I don't mind the 35mm EFOV but would love to have 50mm and possibly 85mm, and something super wide in the 10-15mm range. I don't want a bag full of lenses, I already have that if needed... I just need a bit more latitude. I really wish they had a X100S-50mm... that might be all I need in reality.
As great as it is as a portrait/people camera don't forget the landscapes! It does exceptionally well there too. I just picked up the RRS plate and hope this weekend has some time for me to sneak out for some early morning work (before the family get's up
)We should start an "anything shot with a X100S by Canon Guys" thread, love seeing your photos. Keep'em coming... here are a few more from my neck of the woods.
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chilledXpress said:JohnDizzo15 said:
Never apologize for pictures of your children... part of my day job is doing portraits of other peoples children, but I never get tired of taking photos of mine or showing them. Probably my most important job as a dad and the main reason I started looking for alternatives to the DSLR. It was starting to become more about the camera than the pictures, with the Fuji you can have your cake and eat it too ;D
So, after having it in your hands for a bit... any wishes for the next Fuji? I'd like a faster AF (phase contrast) and FF but interchangeable lenses. I have the Xpro-1 but not my favorite camera, it was put out before they addressed the X100 issues with the redesign of the X100S. Hoping the Xpro-2 contains all the current development pluses and I can move on to it. I don't mind the 35mm EFOV but would love to have 50mm and possibly 85mm, and something super wide in the 10-15mm range. I don't want a bag full of lenses, I already have that if needed... I just need a bit more latitude. I really wish they had a X100S-50mm... that might be all I need in reality.
As great as it is as a portrait/people camera don't forget the landscapes! It does exceptionally well there too. I just picked up the RRS plate and hope this weekend has some time for me to sneak out for some early morning work (before the family get's up
We should start an "anything shot with a X100S by Canon Guys" thread, love seeing your photos. Keep'em coming... here are a few more from my neck of the woods.
LOL. Just figured there might be some people around here that were at least starting to get sick of it.
Completely get what you're saying about it becoming more about the camera/gear. It was getting in the way of a lot of the experience of just being out with the family. Definitely taxing after a while.
To answer your question, my wishes for Fuji are for them to hurry up with the organic sensor development and application into camera bodies. I definitely am interested to see what they do with a full frame + interchangeable lenses much like you. If/when that happens and it turns out to be awesome, you might have to go find me in the FujiRumors forum LOL. The other big wish would be for them to release a line of leaf shutter lenses. Don't know how feasible it would be for them.
I love the hybrid AF in the X100s (blazing fast for a mirrorless). If it was a smidge faster, it would be on par with most DSLRs. I agree with you in wanting a different FL on the X100s as I feel like it is just a bit too wide for all purpose. Would have been nice to be 40-45mm equivalent for my preference. I also wonder how much larger the lens would have to be if they made it either a 1.8 or 1.7ish as there are some times when I wish I had access to a shallower DOF. Again though, those are just wishes as I love the cam as is.
I would love to shoot landscapes. But like you, I have to sneak out pretty early to get any amount of time to do that. Wife looks like she has been running a daycare for 10 hours by herself when I leave on the weekends for even a couple hours and come back.
Thanks re seeing the photos and definitely agree that we should start a thread for them. Awesome shots btw. I especially love the first shot. Which simulation setting was that?
Also would like your opinion on the RAF files. I feel as though they are easier to work in post and give me better results than the 5D3 files on average so far. Again, it's just a feeling and I can't quite put my finger on why. But the end result is just more pleasing to my eye. There is obviously less resolution. But the amount of detail and how clean it looks is just astounding. Would love to hear yours and others opinions on the matter.
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Reading this thread makes me want to get one of these cameras so bad. I happened to mention something about this camera the other day and my wife gave me the "are you kidding me" look since when I was making my last lens purchase (85mm II) I told her I probably wouldn't be making any camera purchases for the next 5 years... as soon as those words left my mouth I knew I shouldn't have said it ha ha ha. I have good equipment already, but the appeal of a small camera I can just throw in my bag and still get awesome pictures is very appealing. I did take my 5D mark III to Disneyland, but slapped on my 40mm pancake so it wasn't that bulky. I need some good suggestions about how to convince the Mrs. that I "need" this camera despite all the gear I already have
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Pinchers of Peril said:Reading this thread makes me want to get one of these cameras so bad. I happened to mention something about this camera the other day and my wife gave me the "are you kidding me" look since when I was making my last lens purchase (85mm II) I told her I probably wouldn't be making any camera purchases for the next 5 years... as soon as those words left my mouth I knew I shouldn't have said it ha ha ha. I have good equipment already, but the appeal of a small camera I can just throw in my bag and still get awesome pictures is very appealing. I did take my 5D mark III to Disneyland, but slapped on my 40mm pancake so it wasn't that bulky. I need some good suggestions about how to convince the Mrs. that I "need" this camera despite all the gear I already have
Ha! I personally swap things out usually. I'm at the point where my closet is so full that I can't really justify adding anything else without removing something first. So sell her with a swap. Not sure how your wife feels about it, but mine was often times bothered by my fussing around with my 5D3 and bag I brought everywhere. Having the X100s completely alleviates that. I carry mine with a joby sling that retracts/extends like a rifle sling so I keep it hugged tightly against my body when not in use. This allows me to interact with my kids freely without issue unlike my Canon rig (banged around a lot when picking up my daughter or running around).
One of the lines I used was something to the effect of
"Honey, this will allow me to worry less about my camera and more on being interactive with the kids. You don't want to deprive me of that do you?"
You can only imagine the look of disdain I got in return. Either way, I have a new X100s now and I love it.
Wife issues aside, I think any Canon user if actually motivated to learn and use the X100s could find true appreciation for what it brings to the table. Take it from me and others in the forum, this thing is a beast. If anything, go test one out at the store. Takes some adjusting if you've shot Canon SLRs all of your life. But once you figure out your way around the UI.......
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JohnDizzo15 said:Pinchers of Peril said:Reading this thread makes me want to get one of these cameras so bad. I happened to mention something about this camera the other day and my wife gave me the "are you kidding me" look since when I was making my last lens purchase (85mm II) I told her I probably wouldn't be making any camera purchases for the next 5 years... as soon as those words left my mouth I knew I shouldn't have said it ha ha ha. I have good equipment already, but the appeal of a small camera I can just throw in my bag and still get awesome pictures is very appealing. I did take my 5D mark III to Disneyland, but slapped on my 40mm pancake so it wasn't that bulky. I need some good suggestions about how to convince the Mrs. that I "need" this camera despite all the gear I already have
Ha! I personally swap things out usually. I'm at the point where my closet is so full that I can't really justify adding anything else without removing something first. So sell her with a swap. Not sure how your wife feels about it, but mine was often times bothered by my fussing around with my 5D3 and bag I brought everywhere. Having the X100s completely alleviates that. I carry mine with a joby sling that retracts/extends like a rifle sling so I keep it hugged tightly against my body when not in use. This allows me to interact with my kids freely without issue unlike my Canon rig (banged around a lot when picking up my daughter or running around).
One of the lines I used was something to the effect of
"Honey, this will allow me to worry less about my camera and more on being interactive with the kids. You don't want to deprive me of that do you?"
You can only imagine the look of disdain I got in return. Either way, I have a new X100s now and I love it.
Wife issues aside, I think any Canon user if actually motivated to learn and use the X100s could find true appreciation for what it brings to the table. Take it from me and others in the forum, this thing is a beast. If anything, go test one out at the store. Takes some adjusting if you've shot Canon SLRs all of your life. But once you figure out your way around the UI.......
I once slung a 5D3 with a 135 into the head of my niece while moving the kids around at the zoo :-[
Yea, I think that's a good tact with the boss going with the minimalist debate. I know mine got tired of the "BAG" and all that went with it. I still sling my Canon's but with my family I rarely do that these days. Just a X100S and a small carry bag or it's tucked into a pocket with a few extra batteries.
About the RAF files John... I do find them easier to deal with. Something about them are fundamentally different from Canon's. You can push them more without them degrading. I also notice that skin tones are much better from the X100S and it's not just me. I have been using the Fuji's for weddings, mostly candid shots at the receptions... clients seem to pick them up quicker and always mention how much they like the way they look. That image at the boardwalk was processed with Nik and ColorEfx4... they have a film sim mod that has a great section of Fuji film. I use it often with Canon files and what started me looking into Fuji a while ago.
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@chilled - I've hit both of my kids in the face with my Canon rig before. They were not happy about it.
I had the Fuji on my Joby sling and an extra battery in my pocket while we were out this weekend and felt fully equipped. Simply amazing.
Re the RAF files, I found the shadow noise to be much better and skin tones to be spot on. I found myself processing very little on most of the files and having more flexibility than anticipated on the files that needed a lot of work. Still having a hard time wrapping my mind around it. Both the raw and jpeg files are worth keeping. I'd say anybody shooting one of these should be saving both all the time.
I stopped using color efex 4 a while back and went with the DxO software. They both seem to do a pretty good job but I think I'm going to have to go back to the Nik software since DxO doesn't work with RAF. LR5 and CS6 have been it for me with the Fuji so far just out of necessity.
I had the Fuji on my Joby sling and an extra battery in my pocket while we were out this weekend and felt fully equipped. Simply amazing.
Re the RAF files, I found the shadow noise to be much better and skin tones to be spot on. I found myself processing very little on most of the files and having more flexibility than anticipated on the files that needed a lot of work. Still having a hard time wrapping my mind around it. Both the raw and jpeg files are worth keeping. I'd say anybody shooting one of these should be saving both all the time.
I stopped using color efex 4 a while back and went with the DxO software. They both seem to do a pretty good job but I think I'm going to have to go back to the Nik software since DxO doesn't work with RAF. LR5 and CS6 have been it for me with the Fuji so far just out of necessity.
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chilledXpress said:JohnDizzo15 said:Pinchers of Peril said:Reading this thread makes me want to get one of these cameras so bad. I happened to mention something about this camera the other day and my wife gave me the "are you kidding me" look since when I was making my last lens purchase (85mm II) I told her I probably wouldn't be making any camera purchases for the next 5 years... as soon as those words left my mouth I knew I shouldn't have said it ha ha ha. I have good equipment already, but the appeal of a small camera I can just throw in my bag and still get awesome pictures is very appealing. I did take my 5D mark III to Disneyland, but slapped on my 40mm pancake so it wasn't that bulky. I need some good suggestions about how to convince the Mrs. that I "need" this camera despite all the gear I already have
Ha! I personally swap things out usually. I'm at the point where my closet is so full that I can't really justify adding anything else without removing something first. So sell her with a swap. Not sure how your wife feels about it, but mine was often times bothered by my fussing around with my 5D3 and bag I brought everywhere. Having the X100s completely alleviates that. I carry mine with a joby sling that retracts/extends like a rifle sling so I keep it hugged tightly against my body when not in use. This allows me to interact with my kids freely without issue unlike my Canon rig (banged around a lot when picking up my daughter or running around).
One of the lines I used was something to the effect of
"Honey, this will allow me to worry less about my camera and more on being interactive with the kids. You don't want to deprive me of that do you?"
You can only imagine the look of disdain I got in return. Either way, I have a new X100s now and I love it.
Wife issues aside, I think any Canon user if actually motivated to learn and use the X100s could find true appreciation for what it brings to the table. Take it from me and others in the forum, this thing is a beast. If anything, go test one out at the store. Takes some adjusting if you've shot Canon SLRs all of your life. But once you figure out your way around the UI.......
I once slung a 5D3 with a 135 into the head of my niece while moving the kids around at the zoo :-[
Yea, I think that's a good tact with the boss going with the minimalist debate. I know mine got tired of the "BAG" and all that went with it. I still sling my Canon's but with my family I rarely do that these days. Just a X100S and a small carry bag or it's tucked into a pocket with a few extra batteries.
About the RAF files John... I do find them easier to deal with. Something about them are fundamentally different from Canon's. You can push them more without them degrading. I also notice that skin tones are much better from the X100S and it's not just me. I have been using the Fuji's for weddings, mostly candid shots at the receptions... clients seem to pick them up quicker and always mention how much they like the way they look. That image at the boardwalk was processed with Nik and ColorEfx4... they have a film sim mod that has a great section of Fuji film. I use it often with Canon files and what started me looking into Fuji a while ago.
Last time we were at the zoo my gripped 5d with 70-200 smacked my daughter in the face when I was picking her up to look at the monkeys… maybe I'll try to remind my wife of that and see if I get the green light for the fuji ha ha
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cm71td said:They do. It's called the X-E2.pulseimages said:I should rent a x100s to see what I'm missing. Wish Fuji would release a version with built in IS or a version with a zoom lens.
No built in IS available as of now. But that would be amazing and yet another very big selling point. There is a zoom lens for the interchangeable lens models with IS. But specs are not mind numbing (for me at least).
For me, having one of the interchangeable lens models with a zoom lens attached defeats one of the main selling points which is absolute compactness. With the available lenses and bodies they have currently, I just can't justify the cost since I already have about 25k invested in my Canon kit. Again, I wasn't looking at Fuji for a new system (yet). Just wanted the best compact solution possible and that to me was the X100s. That said, I will definitely consider a full system purchase once they move to full frame and provide more intriguing lens options that meet all my needs.
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@Chilled - it's part of the reason I moved away from the black rapid. The Joby is not without its quirks. But it's the best option I could find to be able to move my rig from the body hug to shooting position quickly.
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Nice! I actually have a buddy that uses that exact same setup and swears by it. Might have to give it a try.
Putting that on the back burner for now though cause I am doing a little experiment for my own curiosity in which my strap won't apply. Going to try to shoot exclusively with the Fuji for the next couple of weeks. Might be tough, but I will damn sure give it a try.
BTW, have you tried any of the other software that people recommend for processing these files (i.e. Capture One Express)? I have read that that software helps with smearing and retains more pop/detail in the raw conversion process. I don't know as I have never used that software before but it supposedly does better with X-Trans files as most of the other popular software is built for bayer stuff (so I've read). To my eye though, I don't see any of the problems mentioned but am still curious whether the files could be even better.
Also, thought I'd mention that my buddy just picked up the new 23mm to go with his X-Pro and says that it is utterly amazing.
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JohnDizzo15 said:
No, I used to use a Mac and the software that went with it. Also used DXO for a little bit. Right now I use LR5, CS6 and the Nik Suite. I've grown very adept with Nik... love Silver Efx Pro 2 and Color Efx Pro 4 . Not sure how much longer I will stick with them now since being sold to Google. Kinda waiting to see what the long term plans are. I do like that Nik has no problem with RAF files or CR2... for the most part I use LR5 80% of the time and only go to CS6/Nik when I want a little extra. I've been working for a couple of years to build my own presets for LR5 and now can do most of what I want there.
That 23mm is supposedly a great lens. My camera club should be getting a few soon and hope to check it out.
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@Chilled - CTO gel arrived. Assuming you just used double stick tape?
BTW, shall we start the "anything shot with..." thread? Would love to see some of the other stuff other Canon users have produced with the Fuji.
Another thing I forgot to mention that has been an awesome feature for me is the silent mode. I didn't think there was a mode that could be more silent than my 5D3 as that is pretty quiet already. But this thing is literally sneak inside your house and take pictures of you and your cat without you ever knowing it kind of quiet.
I've actually snuck in shots around the wife without her knowing it as well which lets me do more without her getting annoyed. lol.
BTW, shall we start the "anything shot with..." thread? Would love to see some of the other stuff other Canon users have produced with the Fuji.
Another thing I forgot to mention that has been an awesome feature for me is the silent mode. I didn't think there was a mode that could be more silent than my 5D3 as that is pretty quiet already. But this thing is literally sneak inside your house and take pictures of you and your cat without you ever knowing it kind of quiet.
I've actually snuck in shots around the wife without her knowing it as well which lets me do more without her getting annoyed. lol.
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I used reg. old clear cellophane tape and cut the CTO to cover only the actual flash. I have a boarder of tape about 1/4 beyond that... easy to pull off if needed.
Yea, a thread for Canon Fuji guys would be great.
Silent shutter is one of the reasons that I looked into this camera. I love that feature on the 5D3 and thought it was pretty stealthy. It sounds crazy loud compared to the Fuji. I shoot a lot of street and candid stuff, this camera goes almost unrecognized in the real world. It looks kinda touristy and most glance at it and then look on. Especially with it being so wide, you can almost point it at someone and it looks like your shooting something in the distance. The only people who really notice... other photographers I get them coming up and asking either how old it is or they know it's a X100S.
Here is a shot I took as I walk up directly behind this group, they never heard it or even noticed!
Should have probably saved that for the new thread BTW, are you on Flickr? There are a some really nice groups for this camera. I was a admin for the 100 Strangers group for a few years but it got pretty weird and very troll-ish. I only use Flickr for family and personal work now, I use to be into it heavily and had a long standing profile but recently deleted my profile and started fresh. I had a met quite a few local photographers from Flickr and did meet-ups for many years, I really missed the social aspect (minus the trolls) and wanted to keep my contacts. So back again, here is my new profile... http://www.flickr.com/photos/96286721@N07/ If you're on there hit me up. I have a few other sites (SmugMug, Client portals, etc.) but try and keep stuff separate, especially here on CR.
Yea, a thread for Canon Fuji guys would be great.
Silent shutter is one of the reasons that I looked into this camera. I love that feature on the 5D3 and thought it was pretty stealthy. It sounds crazy loud compared to the Fuji. I shoot a lot of street and candid stuff, this camera goes almost unrecognized in the real world. It looks kinda touristy and most glance at it and then look on. Especially with it being so wide, you can almost point it at someone and it looks like your shooting something in the distance. The only people who really notice... other photographers
I get them coming up and asking either how old it is or they know it's a X100S. Here is a shot I took as I walk up directly behind this group, they never heard it or even noticed!
Should have probably saved that for the new thread
BTW, are you on Flickr? There are a some really nice groups for this camera. I was a admin for the 100 Strangers group for a few years but it got pretty weird and very troll-ish. I only use Flickr for family and personal work now, I use to be into it heavily and had a long standing profile but recently deleted my profile and started fresh. I had a met quite a few local photographers from Flickr and did meet-ups for many years, I really missed the social aspect (minus the trolls) and wanted to keep my contacts. So back again, here is my new profile... http://www.flickr.com/photos/96286721@N07/ If you're on there hit me up. I have a few other sites (SmugMug, Client portals, etc.) but try and keep stuff separate, especially here on CR.
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