Gregory Heisler and B&H webinar on the 5DS R

If shooting with Canon is good enough for Gregory Heisler, Canon is good enough for me!

He's been one of my favorite photographers for a long time. He's done lots of innovative and creative in-camera effects before Photoshop became popular. I don't think he's the kind of person that can be bought by a camera company... he does tons of camera and lens testing and he'll shoot with what works the best for him. So I value his opinion more than most! I just wish Canon consulted with him during the whole development process!
 
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JohnUSA said:
If shooting with Canon is good enough for Gregory Heisler, Canon is good enough for me!

He's been one of my favorite photographers for a long time. He's done lots of innovative and creative in-camera effects before Photoshop became popular. I don't think he's the kind of person that can be bought by a camera company... he does tons of camera and lens testing and he'll shoot with what works the best for him. So I value his opinion more than most! I just wish Canon consulted with him during the whole development process!

Absolutely agree, and it was why I mentioned the link, I know there was one posted previously but I thought a timely reminder was relevant.

Heisler is a true Master, I have his book '50 Portraits' and it is very thought provoking in the way he approaches a commission. He knows his equipment, he knows what it will do for him and he will only use what he wants. He has a humility that is wonderful and genuine, his saying even he bought his Hasselblad back used was an eye opener! And, he said several times, if he could only have one camera it would be the 5D MkIII, now that is high praise.
 
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That was a very interesting webnar. Heisler has opinions about lenses and cameras that make a lot of sense to me. With Heisler's long list of credits I really don't think he needs the approval of Canon or any other manufacturer when he talks about photographic gear. I am glad I took the time to watch it. I feel that I will be making better choices of camera gear in the future.
 
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I own the 5dsr, and I own a Hasselblad H4d-40.
The results with the 24-70mm L II F2.8 are not even close to what I get from my Hasselblad.

Trying to get better lenses now...hhmmm but wait, the new 24-70 f2.8 is supposed to be the best. The 50L was crap.
Maybe the Sigmas would do, but I'm not sure about color and AF on them.

I keep updating my review here:
http://www.valentino-photography.com/photography-reviews/canon-5dsr/
 
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toni999 said:
I own the 5dsr, and I own a Hasselblad H4d-40.
The results with the 24-70mm L II F2.8 are not even close to what I get from my Hasselblad.

Trying to get better lenses now...hhmmm but wait, the new 24-70 f2.8 is supposed to be the best. The 50L was crap.
Maybe the Sigmas would do, but I'm not sure about color and AF on them.

I keep updating my review here:
http://www.valentino-photography.com/photography-reviews/canon-5dsr/
I’m sorry mate, but comparing a $14,000 camera to a new $3,800 camera is completely irrelevant, and frankly reeks of showing off that you own the former, it's like saying a Ferrari is better than the new Honda Civic, pointless!
 
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TheJock said:
toni999 said:
I own the 5dsr, and I own a Hasselblad H4d-40.
The results with the 24-70mm L II F2.8 are not even close to what I get from my Hasselblad.

Trying to get better lenses now...hhmmm but wait, the new 24-70 f2.8 is supposed to be the best. The 50L was crap.
Maybe the Sigmas would do, but I'm not sure about color and AF on them.

I keep updating my review here:
http://www.valentino-photography.com/photography-reviews/canon-5dsr/
I’m sorry mate, but comparing a $14,000 camera to a new $3,800 camera is completely irrelevant, and frankly reeks of showing off that you own the former, it's like saying a Ferrari is better than the new Honda Civic, pointless!

I think that finding it is not a MF camera is inescapable.

However toni999 forgot to mention that we can stitch and get MF quality for one tenth of the price ;)

OK , maybe not for portrait, but for what I do I'm happy !
 
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I was taking a wait and see approach with the 5DS... I wanted to see some third party "real" impressions, as well as thoughts on the R vs non-R.

Two things pushed me over the edge in buying... Roger from LensRentals with his tests and this video with Gregory Heisler. What sold me was the huge step up in resolution as tested by Roger and Gregory's overall thoughts and assessment, particularly when he talks about files (on older cameras) letting him down when zooming.

Of course, by the time I came around to deciding to buy - and deciding for sure to buy the "R" version - the "R" version was no where to be found. I actually found one on eBay from Best Buy (as in stock) and then two days after it was supposed to ship they canceled my order and said that they didn't have any. By chance, a local camera store (Action Camera in Roseville) had one "R" in stock, so I bought it today.

I've only taken a couple of photos with it, but I am EXTREMELY impressed. I don't care about shooting video, and I've been more than happy with the 5D III's DR, so it's basically like a super megapixel 5D III.

There's a rabbit that lives in my backyard and I've never been able to get close enough to take a decent photo (lives at the bottom of the hill), and when I came in with the new camera today I saw him and busted it out, and threw on my 300 2.8 II and the 1.4x extender and snapped a few shots (forgot to change over to RAW). Bad shooting conditions - he was in the shade, and bright sun on weeds in the foreground, so I cropped it down to just 20% of the original JPEG and while not the greatest photo, it really illustrated to me the potential in taking an image and cropping the heck out of it and still having some detail. Plus I shot it handheld no problem.

A few years ago, I thought that I could never buy another piece of equipment and be thrilled using what I have forever, so when something powerful like this does come along now and again, it is pretty exciting stuff. 50 megapixels certainly opens up opportunities that were not possible within the Canon line prior to this.

Jason
 
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Sporgon said:
TheJock said:
toni999 said:
I own the 5dsr, and I own a Hasselblad H4d-40.
The results with the 24-70mm L II F2.8 are not even close to what I get from my Hasselblad.

Trying to get better lenses now...hhmmm but wait, the new 24-70 f2.8 is supposed to be the best. The 50L was crap.
Maybe the Sigmas would do, but I'm not sure about color and AF on them.

I keep updating my review here:
http://www.valentino-photography.com/photography-reviews/canon-5dsr/
I’m sorry mate, but comparing a $14,000 camera to a new $3,800 camera is completely irrelevant, and frankly reeks of showing off that you own the former, it's like saying a Ferrari is better than the new Honda Civic, pointless!

I think that finding it is not a MF camera is inescapable.

However toni999 forgot to mention that we can stitch and get MF quality for one tenth of the price ;)

OK , maybe not for portrait, but for what I do I'm happy !

You can pano portraits.
 
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meywd said:
Sporgon said:
TheJock said:
toni999 said:
I own the 5dsr, and I own a Hasselblad H4d-40.
The results with the 24-70mm L II F2.8 are not even close to what I get from my Hasselblad.

Trying to get better lenses now...hhmmm but wait, the new 24-70 f2.8 is supposed to be the best. The 50L was crap.
Maybe the Sigmas would do, but I'm not sure about color and AF on them.

I keep updating my review here:
http://www.valentino-photography.com/photography-reviews/canon-5dsr/
I’m sorry mate, but comparing a $14,000 camera to a new $3,800 camera is completely irrelevant, and frankly reeks of showing off that you own the former, it's like saying a Ferrari is better than the new Honda Civic, pointless!

I think that finding it is not a MF camera is inescapable.

However toni999 forgot to mention that we can stitch and get MF quality for one tenth of the price ;)

OK , maybe not for portrait, but for what I do I'm happy !

You can pano portraits.

I know, but you have to draw the line somewhere !

I find it mostly impractical.
 
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Sporgon said:
meywd said:
Sporgon said:
TheJock said:
toni999 said:
I own the 5dsr, and I own a Hasselblad H4d-40.
The results with the 24-70mm L II F2.8 are not even close to what I get from my Hasselblad.

Trying to get better lenses now...hhmmm but wait, the new 24-70 f2.8 is supposed to be the best. The 50L was crap.
Maybe the Sigmas would do, but I'm not sure about color and AF on them.

I keep updating my review here:
http://www.valentino-photography.com/photography-reviews/canon-5dsr/
I’m sorry mate, but comparing a $14,000 camera to a new $3,800 camera is completely irrelevant, and frankly reeks of showing off that you own the former, it's like saying a Ferrari is better than the new Honda Civic, pointless!

I think that finding it is not a MF camera is inescapable.

However toni999 forgot to mention that we can stitch and get MF quality for one tenth of the price ;)

OK , maybe not for portrait, but for what I do I'm happy !

You can pano portraits.

I know, but you have to draw the line somewhere !

I find it mostly impractical.

yeah, but I like the results.
 

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meywd said:
Sporgon said:
meywd said:
Sporgon said:
TheJock said:
toni999 said:
I own the 5dsr, and I own a Hasselblad H4d-40.
The results with the 24-70mm L II F2.8 are not even close to what I get from my Hasselblad.

Trying to get better lenses now...hhmmm but wait, the new 24-70 f2.8 is supposed to be the best. The 50L was crap.
Maybe the Sigmas would do, but I'm not sure about color and AF on them.

I keep updating my review here:
http://www.valentino-photography.com/photography-reviews/canon-5dsr/
I’m sorry mate, but comparing a $14,000 camera to a new $3,800 camera is completely irrelevant, and frankly reeks of showing off that you own the former, it's like saying a Ferrari is better than the new Honda Civic, pointless!

I think that finding it is not a MF camera is inescapable.

However toni999 forgot to mention that we can stitch and get MF quality for one tenth of the price ;)

OK , maybe not for portrait, but for what I do I'm happy !

You can pano portraits.

I know, but you have to draw the line somewhere !

I find it mostly impractical.

yeah, but I like the results.

And there you have it: MF quality for one tenth of the price :D
 
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Sporgon said:
meywd said:
Sporgon said:
meywd said:
Sporgon said:
TheJock said:
toni999 said:
I own the 5dsr, and I own a Hasselblad H4d-40.
The results with the 24-70mm L II F2.8 are not even close to what I get from my Hasselblad.

Trying to get better lenses now...hhmmm but wait, the new 24-70 f2.8 is supposed to be the best. The 50L was crap.
Maybe the Sigmas would do, but I'm not sure about color and AF on them.

I keep updating my review here:
http://www.valentino-photography.com/photography-reviews/canon-5dsr/
I’m sorry mate, but comparing a $14,000 camera to a new $3,800 camera is completely irrelevant, and frankly reeks of showing off that you own the former, it's like saying a Ferrari is better than the new Honda Civic, pointless!

I think that finding it is not a MF camera is inescapable.

However toni999 forgot to mention that we can stitch and get MF quality for one tenth of the price ;)

OK , maybe not for portrait, but for what I do I'm happy !

You can pano portraits.

I know, but you have to draw the line somewhere !

I find it mostly impractical.

yeah, but I like the results.

And there you have it: MF quality for one tenth of the price :D

Hahaha, I am not sure about that, since I have never shot with a MF, and even rarely see photos taken with MF.
 
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privatebydesign said:
JohnUSA said:
If shooting with Canon is good enough for Gregory Heisler, Canon is good enough for me!

He's been one of my favorite photographers for a long time. He's done lots of innovative and creative in-camera effects before Photoshop became popular. I don't think he's the kind of person that can be bought by a camera company... he does tons of camera and lens testing and he'll shoot with what works the best for him. So I value his opinion more than most! I just wish Canon consulted with him during the whole development process!

Absolutely agree, and it was why I mentioned the link, I know there was one posted previously but I thought a timely reminder was relevant.

Heisler is a true Master, I have his book '50 Portraits' and it is very thought provoking in the way he approaches a commission. He knows his equipment, he knows what it will do for him and he will only use what he wants. He has a humility that is wonderful and genuine, his saying even he bought his Hasselblad back used was an eye opener! And, he said several times, if he could only have one camera it would be the 5D MkIII, now that is high praise.
Yes, Heisler's work speaks for itself, but I really wonder about some of the interactions in this video. I assume he was just playing devils advocate with some of the "questions he's always had". I mean surely he has access to google. He did bring up some good points and provide a different perspective that I hadn't thought of before so it was valuable having him there.

I like Rudy Winston; knowledgeable, well spoken and very friendly. It's great to be able to deal with people like him if you have technical issues with products.
 
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