"Holy cow. Time to throw my 7D in the bin."

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#21
wellfedCanuck said:
neuroanatomist said:
wellfedCanuck said:
Anyway, we've thrashed this subject to death. How about those Blue Jays...?
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Well then, ok...I caught a nice capture of a blue jay sitting on a tombstone the other day. A metaphor? Back on topic (well, ok, not really, but I agree we're pretty much done here) ...I took the pic with my 7D + 100-400mm, and I have no intention of chucking my 7D in the bin. ::)
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Well, I actually wish I had a 7D (I only linked to the video, I didn't make it), 'cause then I could take some photos of those blue jays making nests out of all those old frayed red sox in preparation for next year... :P
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Now that's hitting close to home! Leave the carcass of the Red Sox alone!

Of course speaking of sports in Boston, there is the Stanley Cup...
 
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#22
The iPhone & other camera phones are not causing any harm in the DSLR market. But the problem for Canon & Nikon are the P&S cameras. I used to carry around a P&S and a Nokia Candy Bar Phone in 2001.

Now all I have are DSLRs & Camera Phones. The smart phones/tablets have removed the need for mobile music devices, mobile gaming devices, mobile computing devices and PS cameras. No they don't do any of the jobs as good as a dedicated devices but carrying around one device instead of 4 sounds rather good to me. I don't see any DiscMan, Gameboys, PDAs, or candy bar phones anymore; do you?

A camera phone will never be as good as a the DSLR of the same period. I will be more than willingly trade anyone an iPhone 4s for a 7d.
 
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#23
Hey! I just exactly what your saying that we should expect more. I dont know anything on the technical side of things really, but ive read in the forumns here that the yeild of an FF sensor is fairly low, and therefore FF sensors are very expensive. So just adding the sensor would probably triple or quadruple the price. Then there is the casing. A propler alloy casing or waterproof is a lot tougher than the iphone which smashes when u drop it. So housing probably adds a bit more. Then there is volume. I phones sell millions and millions, so much more than an expensive camera ever will. Economies of scale are going to come into play. If every other person had a 5dmkii, like what it seems every other person has an iphone, a 5dmkii would be alot cheaper than it is. So i exactly what your saying, but with a lot of technologies paying 10X more doesnt mean 10X better.

Like CPUs, an extra £150 at the high end will buy you a CPU only 20% faster.
 
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#24
The iphone, and subsequent phones, have/will bring decent film making and photo taking capabilities to average people. These people, likely, can't afford or were not interested in spending thousands on a DSLR or a pro video camera in the first place. Surely, some will switch one way or another but, these devices target different markets and, there is almost no overlap.

In any case, the main value of a DSLR is in the lenses first, and the body second. I can't use my glass with this phone, nor can I take advantage of all the in-body features that makes a DSLR a far superior photo tool. Must people just don't care about this, though. They post blury, noisy poorly focused pictures to their facebooks and are rather satisfied with them because the content of their photography is more important than all of the technical bits that makes great photography great.


Just a thought:
Considering the high price of DSLR cameras, why don't manufacturers offer cameras with options, in much the same way car companies offer cars with packages and extras? Perhaps, a company would design a model around the sensor, metering and AF capabilities alone. Customers would add tertiary features such as GPS, Wifi, weather sealing, etc after the fact to build exactly what they need. This way, those of us who want or need these features can have them, at extra cost, while those of us who do not, can leave them out.
 
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#27
dr croubie said:
Can I mount a Tokina 11-16 or an EF 1200mm to my iToy?
no.
pass.

It may be impressive compared to other phones, even to some P&Ses, but it's not impressive in absolute terms.

*owner of a phone that is actually a phone, and a camera that is actually a camera*
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Actually, yes! :P
http://photojojo.com/store/awesomeness/iphone-slr-mount/
 
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#28
people are just starting to get the full scope of what marketing means for these high end devices . . . and that is why we speak about "if Apple can get wifi into their phone, then. . . ." scenarios.

It is totally true, though! If Canon can make the world's largest CMOS sensor with unheard of light sensitivity, then it is easier to undersant why they didn't put wifi into the new DSLR, and instead did a whole production line for an adaptor ;)
 
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#29
EYEONE said:
dr croubie said:
Can I mount a Tokina 11-16 or an EF 1200mm to my iToy?
no.
pass.

It may be impressive compared to other phones, even to some P&Ses, but it's not impressive in absolute terms.

*owner of a phone that is actually a phone, and a camera that is actually a camera*
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Actually, yes! :P
http://photojojo.com/store/awesomeness/iphone-slr-mount/
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Yes but, your image is still a product of the inferior glass in the iphone. You don't have any aperture adjustment and focusing is a wretched exercise. IMO, that adapter is a novelty. It's not replacement for even the most basic DSLR body.
 
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#30
JonJT said:
EYEONE said:
dr croubie said:
Can I mount a Tokina 11-16 or an EF 1200mm to my iToy?
no.
pass.

It may be impressive compared to other phones, even to some P&Ses, but it's not impressive in absolute terms.

*owner of a phone that is actually a phone, and a camera that is actually a camera*
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Actually, yes! :P
http://photojojo.com/store/awesomeness/iphone-slr-mount/
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Yes but, your image is still a product of the inferior glass in the iphone. You don't have any aperture adjustment and focusing is a wretched exercise. IMO, that adapter is a novelty. It's not replacement for even the most basic DSLR body.
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I didn't say that it was. I was correcting his point that's all.
 
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Whilst the video is undoubtedly impressive given that its from a phone, does anyone else find the style quite distrubing? A little too "first person pervert" style for me, peering over the wall, through the flowers etc. ;)

Not trying to criticse because its way beyond anything I could make. Just saying as this thread got quite heavy! :P
 
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