"I am boycotting Nikon" campaign

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#21
I won't be boycotting Nikon, mainly because I don't buy Nikon anyway.

If their scopes are anything like their lenses then you'll need a pocket book of caveats depending on the age of your gun..

The nikon f mount will work on any nikon slr.. except if you need aperture index, except if you need an AF motor, on an fx body but at 3mp etc etc etc.

It's a pretty nasty advert, but then it probably appeals to the mindset of the nasty people who shoot animals for fun (and I am clear to make the distinction between fun and necessary culls)

If canon made a similar advert or made a similar product would I boycott? Probably not. Theres all sorts of reasons to boycott all sorts of products.. some folk might boycott a japenese product because of their historical reluctance to accept and apologise for war crimes, some folk might boycott an israeli manufactured bag because they don't like the way the palestinians are treated.

I grew up in a lefty house, so nestle was barred at one point over the african baby milk powder, outspan over apartheid etc. but these companies are still in business. I'm sure nikon will survive. Despite recent attrocities recreational gun users don't seem to putting down their arms any time soon.
 
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#23
AprilForever said:
Those are hogs, and hogs are numerous, and rather a nussance as well, but worse still often a threat to local endangered and threatened populations. I am totally against poaching of threatened species, and totally against wanton destruction. But, some animals NEED to be hunted by man, often especially because we displaced their predators through habitat destruction. Here in Florida, hogs are a severe nuisance, and the laws are actually pretty easy-going about the taking o' hogs. The poster says "Bring home the bacon", so the thought is not some Great White Hunter racking up tons of kills for trophies, but a productive use, potentially, anyway. THere is no reason to be so sensitive about this...
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#24
Thanks for the heads up.

To me, so what - This may cause a few fringe anti-hunters to boycott Nikon and possibly even more sane people to buy it.

Whole thing is stupid if you ask me (which you did not). Hunting is a personal choice, hunting endangered is criminal but not a reason to boycott the make of the rifle scope. Would you boycott a keyboard manufacturer because some people who use the keyboard are hackers???
 
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#27
bycostello said:
so what they make scopes....
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As always, animal rights activists seem to live on another planet and completely fail to connect to the rest of the world, but certainly the us american public. After all arms manufacturers don't kill, and gun's don't either, it's the people that use them, so if people abuse automatic weapons or scopes it's certainly only the fault of a small minority? But well, here's probably not the place to discuss that in depth.

Anyway, the issue of some with Nikon is that they the lack of differentiation between shooting for re-balancing the wildlife after human impact or general sports hunting of non-endangered species and trophy hunting that is a factor in severely diminishing some animal species in africa (but they sponsor trophy safaris), for example see http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/the-wrong-kind-of-photo-shoot-nikon-in-the-line-of-fire-over-rifle-sights-for-big-game-hunting-8556123.html

But for some reason or another Nikon doesn't seem to be entirely unaffected by the pressure - they recently re-designed their arms website to exclude shots of happy hunters standing in 19s century pose above capital prey and renamed it from "Nikon Hunting" to "Nikon Sport Optics".
 
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#30
distant.star said:
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I'm boycotting all these imaging companies. They make infernal machines that steal your soul!

My belief is that corporations have essentially completed their takeover of the world. They will make minor adjustments responding to niggling little complaints like this to keep sales at full tilt. Beyond that, we and they are on a path to destroy this planet. Since I can't stop it, I plan to enjoy the ride into the pits of hell.
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Ain't that the truth. Very true Sir, very eloquent. :'(
 
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#31
brad-man said:
AprilForever said:
Those are hogs, and hogs are numerous, and rather a nussance as well, but worse still often a threat to local endangered and threatened populations. I am totally against poaching of threatened species, and totally against wanton destruction. But, some animals NEED to be hunted by man, often especially because we displaced their predators through habitat destruction. Here in Florida, hogs are a severe nuisance, and the laws are actually pretty easy-going about the taking o' hogs. The poster says "Bring home the bacon", so the thought is not some Great White Hunter racking up tons of kills for trophies, but a productive use, potentially, anyway. THere is no reason to be so sensitive about this...
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Quite so. I live in S Florida and we are overrun with harmful exotics. We have beautiful lionfish ravaging our reefs, and all sorts of pythons taking over the Everglades. Both species are pretty much on the "kill on sight" list. Can I put a Nikon scope on a speargun? The diffraction of the water might compensate for the crappy optics...
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Agreed about hogs. They are the number one most destructive non-native animal species out there. What's number two you ask? Burmese Pythons? NOPE! Feral cats. Feral cats are less destructive than hogs because they don't destroy habitat like hogs do - but they do kill for fun - daily. Where are pythons on the "most destructive" list of invasives? If you believe the media hype - then hundreds of thousands of them are a half a step slither away from killing everything in the US including the human population. Or, if you're more informed about the issue, have spent any actual time hunting them, and/or know anything about their natural environment and their requirements to survive, then you realize there's only a few thousand of them (max) and they are a very localized problem in South Florida with no ability to spread anywhere else. They also don't eat or kill much (like cats) and they definitely don't destroy habitat (like hogs).

Need some proof? How about the month-long FFW SPONSORED Burmese python challenged that happened just recently. Something like 1600 people had 30 days to capture as many as they could. How many did they get? 68!!! If you gave 1600 people 30 days to kill as many hogs or cats as they could, they'd get hundreds and probably more like THOUSANDS!

Don't get me wrong, I'm vehemently opposed to the survival of any non-native species, but we should really inform the general populace that Senator Bill Nelson has fooled them all by making the Burmese Python the "poster child" for non-natives. The Brazilian Pepper plant, hogs, and yes - even fluffy the cat are FARRRRRR more dangerous to the Everglades (and the rest of the US) than Burmese Pythons.

/end rant
 
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#32
Like so many issues, there are no simple answers. For example, look at Ducks Unlimited.... There is not a government or environmental group in North America that has done a fraction as much as them to preserve wetlands......and they are doing it so that they can shoot ducks.
 
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#33
Why stop with Nikon?

I'm boycotting the following:

dirty sensors
dust on filters
disembodied hands in pics
Canon Haters
Nikon Haters
Film Haters
Folks who think noobs shouldn't buy top notch gear
flare, unless artistically shot
older gay men on Model Mayhem who are cruising
 
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#35
rumorzmonger said:
Don't worry about those animals - if the 'scopes are made by Nikon, they will all be out of calibration and aim to the left.
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We should keep politics out of the forum - some will prefer they aim to the right.
 
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#36
jebrady03 said:
Agreed about hogs. They are the number one most destructive non-native animal species out there. What's number two you ask? Burmese Pythons? NOPE! Feral cats.
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All three species pale in comparison to H. sapiens sapiens.

Similarly, the destruction from hogs, pythons, and cats again pales in comparison to the destruction from corn, wheat, cattle, poultry, cotton....

Cheers,

b&
 
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