I doubt this is even [CR1] but I guess it starts somewhere - 7D3 specs?

Jul 28, 2015
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30MP sensor
4K video/30p 1.4x
12 fps
No AA filter
1D X Mark II focusing
Tilting touch screen
CFast/SD
Built-in Wi-Fi
Price around $2,000

https://www.dailycameranews.com/2017/09/first-canon-7d-mark-iii-specs-leaked-web/
 
Why should the 7D Mark ii replacement be 10 megapixel more? The great Nikon D500 is only 20.9 megapixel.
The sports and wildlife shooters (on a budget) seem to prefer at most 24 megapixel and want to have an AA filter.

The other specs seem to suit the target market of this camera.
 
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ajfotofilmagem said:
Why should the 7D Mark ii replacement be 10 megapixel more? The great Nikon D500 is only 20.9 megapixel.
The sports and wildlife shooters (on a budget) seem to prefer at most 24 megapixel and want to have an AA filter.

The other specs seem to suit the target market of this camera.

This budget wildlife/bird shooter would be happy with 20MP and no AA filter.
 
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12*30MP would make it by far the highest-throughput Canon camera ever, surpassing the 1DX2 and the 5Ds by a fair margin. Sounds a bit dubious. The hypothetical 5Ds2 might have a similar throughput, though, so maybe Canon can pull that off. Double DIGIC7?
 
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The specs sound reasonably close to what I was expecting. Could be close, or could just be speculation on someone's part. I'll wait for something from Canon Rumors Guy before getting too hyped up either way. (Guess I got my answer while typing)

Still, I can't resist commenting:

I've been predicting 28mp, so I can see 30mp as possible, but pushing the upper limits. Especially in terms of noise at higher ISOs. That would put the 5Ds at 77mp. I'd be very relieved is Canon Rumors Guy is correct that resolution prediction is bogus. For sports, birds, wildlife, I'd much rather have lower noise than higher resolution.

An added 1.4 crop factor for 4K seems unlikely. That would virtually eliminate wide angle shots in video – 10-18 becomes 22-40.

12fps sounds about right.

No AA filter would be a surprise and possibly problematic for birders, who are a key market for the 7D series.

Touch screen is long overdue. Not sure about the tilting thing if it costs any real estate on the backside of the camera.

I've been expecting Cfast. Not sure about the SD vs. CF. That means having to carry three types of cards if you use the 7D as a backup for 1DX.

Built-in wi-fi is a no-brainer.

Pricing is probably about right, although I'd prefer it to be closer to the 7DII (who wouldn't?)
 
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unfocused said:
No AA filter would be a surprise and possibly problematic for birders, who are a key market for the 7D series.

Why would no AA filter be problematic? Nikon hasn't had AA filters in the last several generations of croppers. I used both the D7200 and D500 and shot well over 10,000 images of birds on each and never once ran into an issue with moire. If anything, birders should be clamoring for no AA filter as it increases fine detail. Shooting my 7DII + 100-400II side-by-side with the D500 + 200-500, the Nikon combo actually showed more detail even though most testing shows the 100-400II to be a sharper lens than the 200-500 - I can only surmise my results were due to the lack of AA filter on the D500.

I've been on Canon's case for years wondering why they continue to use an unnecessary AA filter in largely wildlife bodies.
 
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30MP sensor. No way, 24
4K video/30p 1.4x. Hope not (see cfast)
12 fps. Happy to stay at 10 but 12 cool as long as more fps options are available
No AA filter highly doubt it, that will happen on 5d hi Res bodies first
1D X Mark II focusing. Hope so that would be fantastic
Tilting touch screen hope so
CFast/SD if cfast is there only for video then for me that's an example of video compromising stills
Built-in Wi-Fi. Guaranteed!
Price around $2,000. No idea. :) But probably around price of 7d2 release give or take a couple of hundred
 
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I'm just replying to the birding specific question. I shoot birds with the 5dsr and love it. I'd much rather have the detail... especially for the smaller wildlife like song birds. I had the mark iv for a while and sold it because it looked muddy. I'd actually like to see more options for bodies without filters. I really don't like them. The AA filter on the mark iii was criminal in my opinion. Killed the detail.
 
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SkySpades said:
unfocused said:
No AA filter would be a surprise and possibly problematic for birders, who are a key market for the 7D series.

Why would no AA filter be problematic? Nikon hasn't had AA filters in the last several generations of croppers. I used both the D7200 and D500 and shot well over 10,000 images of birds on each and never once ran into an issue with moire. If anything, birders should be clamoring for no AA filter as it increases fine detail. Shooting my 7DII + 100-400II side-by-side with the D500 + 200-500, the Nikon combo actually showed more detail even though most testing shows the 100-400II to be a sharper lens than the 200-500 - I can only surmise my results were due to the lack of AA filter on the D500.

I've been on Canon's case for years wondering why they continue to use an unnecessary AA filter in largely wildlife bodies.

I agree, if you're shooting wildlife you want to get as much sharpness as you can since more likely you'll be cropping either way. The AA filter may be an issue for video but I don't really see it as an issue for wildlife photographers unless you're into shooting Zebras ;D :D
 
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Mikehit said:
30MP sensor
4K video/30p 1.4x
12 fps
No AA filter
1D X Mark II focusing
Tilting touch screen
CFast/SD
Built-in Wi-Fi
Price around $2,000

https://www.dailycameranews.com/2017/09/first-canon-7d-mark-iii-specs-leaked-web/

Certain specs on this camera would compete directly with both the 5D MkIV (resolution) and 1DX MkII (burst rate). While I would love to see this happen, we all know how Canon loves to protect its big dogs. I think a more reasonable approach (from Canon's POV) would be 24MP sensor, perhaps taken from the 80D, 10fps (as it now stands), UHD 4K in a consumer codec (like the D500), which would eliminate the need to use CFast cards, and...god please...much improved dynamic range and high-ISO/low-noise improvements. While I had gotten some pretty great shots with my 7D MkII, I recently traded it and my 5D MkIII (I still have my 5D MkIV) in on the Nikon D500, which blows the 7D MkII away in every respect, including image quality. Honestly, I got tired of Canon's 4 or 5 year product development cycle, and couldn't wait for the 7D3 anymore.

As far as the lack of an AA filter for birders/wildlife shooters is concerned, the D500 doesn't have an AA filter (inexplicably, the D5 does), and moire is not a problem at all with the D500. Here's an image I recently shot with the D500 and Nikon 200-500 lens at 500mm, sitting just outside my back door...
 

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CanoKnight said:
A 1.4x on top of a 1.6x is Canon's middle finger to the video community.

The D500 has a 15x crop on top of a 1.5x crop for 4K video. It's great for long lenses and wildlife. Not so much for anything else. Having noted that, people who complain about the crop on a 5D MkIV have never tried to shoot 4K video on a Nikon. Any Nikon. It's like having your nuts in a vice while someone is pulling out your fingernails. Not fun at all.

Video is definitely one area where Canon beats Nikon with an ugly stick.
 
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