I want to buy an 5D mk ii + 24-105 L IS kit over internet...

[vecihi]

I was looking for a new camera for a while.
I have bought a canon 10-20 f3.5 and 70-200 F4 IS from B&H photo, but 5D mk ii is out of stock...
One of my friend is now in US. I want to buy it over internet and ship the kit to New Jersey.
I have checked canon us autorized dealers, but most of them don' t have it in stock.
I give an order to new york camera&video yesterday, but today they make a refund because it is out of stock :/

Could you plese help me to find a reliable dealer which has 5D mk ii + 24- 105 L kit?
Best regards,
Burak

 

[michi]

You know the Canon 10-22 will not work with the 5DII, right?

 

[rs]

And do you also know the 5D mk II is discontinued?

 

[vecihi]

In fact 10-20 works but crops the corner
I know it is discontinued, also i bought my 50D when it was discontinued ...
Kit is available in Turkey, but the price is about 3700 USD...
Body is about 2700 USD ...
24-105 lens is 1600 USD...

 

[vecihi]

http://www.berger-bros.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD
Do they have the kit or the web site is outdated?

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Its going to be difficult to find a discontinued camera that is still new. More expensive as well.

Why not get a 6D with 24-105mm lens, for less money and everyone has them.
http://www.canonpricewatch.com/product/04043/Canon-EOS-6D-with-24-105-Kit-price.html

 

[brad-man]

Agree with Spokane. 6D is superior in almost all ways. If you can't manage the 6d, be aware that Get It Digital on ebay is currently selling the 24-105 for $660. You can always pick up a 5DII later.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=151061298667&item=151061298667&lgeo=1&vectorid=229466

 

[vecihi]

6D is new, has better proccessor but for me 5D mk ii is best choice.
6D has smaller and lighter body so someting must be missed.

I have found one more web site, but i' m not sure the kit is available
[0]=386966]http://neptunephoto.com/spec_sheet.html?catalog[product_guids][0]=386966

 

[vecihi]

For 6D, i can wait because it is a new camera and my 50D is still in good condition.
6D has some technical advantages but for me 5D is legend
I have checked the 24-105 really good price. If i'll not order the kit i can buy it.
But in the details of the lens it is writen as "lens was a part of kit" So there is a little risk...

 

[brad-man]

6D is new, has better proccessor but for me 5D mk ii is best choice.
6D has smaller and lighter body so someting must be missed.

I have found one more web site, but i' m not sure the kit is available
[0]=386966]http://neptunephoto.com/spec_sheet.html?catalog[product_guids][0]=386966

No. Not really. The only advantage of the 5Dll is quicker access to more advanced functions via dual function top buttons and the thumb toggle switch. The improvements of the 6D are numerous. I won't get into the polycarbonate vs magnesium argument here.

A "white box" kit lens is identical in every way to a retail packaged lens.

 

[vecihi]

Quote from: vecihi on Today at 05:17:44 PM

6D is new, has better proccessor but for me 5D mk ii is best choice.
6D has smaller and lighter body so someting must be missed.

I have found one more web site, but i' m not sure the kit is available
[0]=386966]http://neptunephoto.com/spec_sheet.html?catalog[product_guids][0]=386966



No. Not really. The only advantage of the 5Dll is quicker access to more advanced functions via dual function top buttons and the thumb toggle switch. The improvements of the 6D are numerous. I won't get into the polycarbonate vs magnesium argument here.

A "white box" kit lens is identical in every way to a retail packaged lens.

I' m in a hurry because of 5D mk ii is discontinued and still expensive in Turkey. I did not test /use 6D. Also non of my friend has it. I'll not buy 6D for now because it is a new body, i have enough time to test & check , because my 50D is alive...
Thanks for explaining "white box". At least i'll get 24-105, i hope 5D also

 

[Jim O]

6D is new, has better proccessor but for me 5D mk ii is best choice.
6D has smaller and lighter body so someting must be missed.

Are you serious?

If so, I have a 6-7 pound 1998 Dell laptop to sell you for the price of a current 2-3 pound model.

The 6D is an upgrade from the 5D2 in virtually every way, especially image quality.

 

[littlewildcat]

http://www.berger-bros.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD
Do they have the kit or the web site is outdated?

It shows 5D II kit in stock for $2,999.99 and they do ship for free worldwide.(click help and check international shipping) Do your country charge custom duty and tax for import ? Will Canon in Turkey honor warranty ?

 

[vecihi]

6D is new, has better proccessor but for me 5D mk ii is best choice.
6D has smaller and lighter body so someting must be missed.

Are you serious?

If so, I have a 6-7 pound 1998 Dell laptop to sell you for the price of a current 2-3 pound model.

The 6D is an upgrade from the 5D2 in virtually every way, especially image quality.

6D has policarbon top cover, 5D has magnesium .
6D is new but flash syns is 180, 5D has 200
6D has a smaller sensor (a litle bit)
6D has smaller viewfinder coverage etc.
6D is new and chipper (than i have question marks ) , weight just was an example
The body can be made from titanium, or polycarbon.
Save your laptop for memories

 

[vecihi]

Quote from: vecihi on Today at 05:03:32 PM

http://www.berger-bros.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD
Do they have the kit or the web site is outdated?



It shows 5D II kit in stock for $2,999.99 and they do ship for free worldwide.(click help and check international shipping) Do your country charge custom duty and tax for import ? Will Canon in Turkey honor warranty ?

It looks like the kit in the stock but i'm not sure it is realy in stock.
Because i give an order New York Photo & Camera and new day they refund my money because of the kit out of stock. Also if you check http://www.canonrumors.com/cameras/canon-rumors-price-watch/ for 5D, it shows buyding.com has the kit and buyding web site gives no warning, but there is no order/price link in the page
I' ll ship it to my friend in NJ and she'll handcarry it for me. If they send it directly to Turkey, customs apply %18tax

 

[littlewildcat]

Quote from: vecihi on Today at 05:03:32 PM

http://www.berger-bros.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD
Do they have the kit or the web site is outdated?



It shows 5D II kit in stock for $2,999.99 and they do ship for free worldwide.(click help and check international shipping) Do your country charge custom duty and tax for import ? Will Canon in Turkey honor warranty ?

It looks like the kit in the stock but i'm not sure it is realy in stock.
Because i give an order New York Photo & Camera and new day they refund my money because of the kit out of stock. Also if you check http://www.canonrumors.com/cameras/canon-rumors-price-watch/ for 5D, it shows buyding.com has the kit and buyding web site gives no warning, but there is no order/price link in the page
I' ll ship it to my friend in NJ and she'll handcarry it for me. If they send it directly to Turkey, customs apply %18tax

If you have friend in the States, you may consider to ask her to buy a refurbished one for you when it becomes available.
http://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/cameras/refurbished-eos-digital-slr-cameras/eos-5d-mark-ii-body-refurbished
Also ask your friend to take advantage of the Loyalty Program for an additional 15% off. That will save you some money. (Google Canon Loyalty program for details)
If white box lenses are as good as those come with retail boxes, they are sometimes 50% cheaper or less compare to the regular price.
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/canon-ef-24-105-4l-is-usm-lens/10075099.aspx?path=88ab0d6ee73f36461889686b4d8861d6en02&SearchPageIndex=1

You may consider to buy one of those. Everything will add up to about $2300.

 

[Jim O]

6D has policarbon top cover, 5D has magnesium .

6D has wi-fi and GPS. Antennas need to "see out". Any camera body with these features will not have a metal top, unless it has antennas sticking out.

6D is new but flash syns is 180, 5D has 200

A stupid move by Canon designed to convince stupid people people that there's a difference. it's 0.2 stop. It makes NO difference but you can use high-speed sync if you really need a faster sync. Making that argument shows that you really do not understand photography.

6D has a smaller sensor (a litle bit)

But better image processing (a LOT). Better high ISO performance (a LOT). Better low light AF (a LOT). Built in lens corrections for light falloff and lateral color fringes. More FPS (if that appeals to you). Ultrafast SD card compatibility. Quiet mode. Better fill flash exposure (MUCH). Weighs 150g less - not sure why you see this as a disadvantage but I see it as an improvement.

6D has smaller viewfinder coverage etc.

They quote it at 97%. Measured it's closer to 98%. You think you can see that? Really?

6D is new and chipper (than i have question marks ) , weight just was an example
The body can be made from titanium, or polycarbon.

Huh?

You can spend/waste your money as you like. We have a saying in America about that.

Best of luck.

 

[vecihi]

Quote from: vecihi on Today at 06:29:18 PM

6D has policarbon top cover, 5D has magnesium .

6D has wi-fi and GPS. Antennas need to "see out". Any camera body with these features will not have a metal top, unless it has antennas sticking out.

Thanks for wireless info, everthing is clear

Quote from: vecihi on Today at 06:29:18 PM

6D is new but flash syns is 180, 5D has 200

A stupid move by Canon designed to convince stupid people people that there's a difference. it's 0.2 stop. It makes NO difference but you can use high-speed sync if you really need a faster sync. Making that argument shows that you really do not understand photography.

This is a diffrence, because it is not only 0.2 stop. If you can't sync 200, you can't use 1/200 with flash. (very rarely used, but i give this example for "something is missing/less quality"). Also shutter is 1/4000, it was 1/8000

Quote from: vecihi on Today at 06:29:18 PM

6D has a smaller sensor (a litle bit)

But better image processing (a LOT). Better high ISO performance (a LOT). Better low light AF (a LOT). Built in lens corrections for light falloff and lateral color fringes. More FPS (if that appeals to you). Ultrafast SD card compatibility. Quiet mode. Better fill flash exposure (MUCH). Weighs 150g less - not sure why you see this as a disadvantage but I see it as an improvement.

I know the advantages of 6D, but the sensor is still smaller. Less weight is advantage, but for example you want tu buy an Audi A8 (2012 product) and compare it with Audi A8 (2013 product). If 2013 is cheap what do you think? Is someting missing in 2013 or 2012 model was old?

Quote from: vecihi on Today at 06:29:18 PM

6D has smaller viewfinder coverage etc.

They quote it at 97%. Measured it's closer to 98%. You think you can see that? Really?

I can' t see it, also this was an example about "something missing/less quality"

Quote from: vecihi on Today at 06:29:18 PM

6D is new and chipper (than i have question marks ) , weight just was an example
The body can be made from titanium, or polycarbon.

Huh?

Durability / weight / material science example

You can spend/waste your money as you like. We have a saying in America about that.

Best of luck.

Thank you

 

[vecihi]

Thanks for all replays and info's
It is 2.30 AM in Turkey, time to sleep 8)

I'll forum tomarrow.
Best regards
Burak

 

[michi]

The whole thing doesn't make a lot of sense. Why buy an old generation camera when the 6D really does deliver better pictures. Also, why buy a 10-22 to match with full frame which has to be converted to fit, and then you still can't go below 13 or 14mm without getting mirror damage and getting blacked out corners. You could get a 17-40L for similar price and get about the same performance on full frame. To each their own of course, but I sure don't understand it.