I want to buy an 5D mk ii + 24-105 L IS kit over internet...

[applecider]

I would have suspicions that this is a "joke" thread. Sorry op

The 6D is a better camera than the 5Dii in so many ways: image, weight, focus 5dii has a relatively terrible focus system compared to the current generation of full frame cameras, wifi, gps, frame rate, high iso performance

If you want a wide angle lens for a full frame the 8-15L fish eye is a surprisingly sharp lens that is actually designed to work on full frame canons, and it works with limitations on crop canons cameras as well.

If the op is for real read the digital picture's review on the 6D. Here http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-6D-Digital-SLR-Camera-Review.aspx

 

[vecihi]

The whole thing doesn't make a lot of sense. Why buy an old generation camera when the 6D really does deliver better pictures. Also, why buy a 10-22 to match with full frame which has to be converted to fit, and then you still can't go below 13 or 14mm without getting mirror damage and getting blacked out corners. You could get a 17-40L for similar price and get about the same performance on full frame. To each their own of course, but I sure don't understand it.

I already have 10-20 f3.5. I' ll not use it with my new camera, i'll sell my 10-20..
Image quailty / ISO/ processor etc. is better in 6D, but still i think it has some tech. advantages but not the mechanical. For examle shutter is 100.000 (it was 150.000). I know take 100.000 photos is not easy, maybe the difference is only because of fps.
I can but 6D maybe later, but not now. Because it will be in stocks for a while.

 

[vecihi]

I would have suspicions that this is a "joke" thread. Sorry op

The 6D is a better camera than the 5Dii in so many ways: image, weight, focus 5dii has a relatively terrible focus system compared to the current generation of full frame cameras, wifi, gps, frame rate, high iso performance

If you want a wide angle lens for a full frame the 8-15L fish eye is a surprisingly sharp lens that is actually designed to work on full frame canons, and it works with limitations on crop canons cameras as well.

If the op is for real read the digital picture's review on the 6D. Here http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EOS-6D-Digital-SLR-Camera-Review.aspx

Nice review, thank you. I have added 8-15L to my list of "things to done before married"
Maybe i'll not bought 5mkii, but i' m sure i'll not buy a 6D. Because i can wait for 6d, not for 5d mkii. Than maybe 6D gets cheeper

 

[AmbientLight]

Maybe i'll not bought 5mkii, but i' m sure i'll not buy a 6D. Because i can wait for 6d, not for 5d mkii. Than maybe 6D gets cheeper

I do believe you have miscalculated here regarding market development over time. The U.S. market receives new goods very early and at good prices, while in other countries you lag behind in when new goods are released and in many areas prices are much higher, too. As a consequence the window of opportunity shopping for 5D Mark IIs is long gone, except in case you are looking for used ones. What you should do is to drop your market view based on what is available in Turkey and make a decision on what is available overall.

My advise would be to check your opportunities based on what you can get based on checking internet offerings. In this way you can learn what is currently available for any given market. That is quick and you can make a decision without traveling abroad. Here you must be careful to find out, which internet vendors are reputable in the area and which ones are not so. In this forum you will find a lot of information about this topic.

Purchasing a 6D now in the U.S. is certainly not a bad idea. You cannot expect prices to go down significantly except for temporary price drops to boost seasonal sales, so waiting is of limited benefit. Maybe prices will go down later on due to some future market development, but such changes cannot be safely expected.

 

[BrandonKing96]

You know the Canon 10-22 will not work with the 5DII, right?

10-20 f/3.5
assuming he's talking about the sigma, it will, just very bad vignetting up until probably around the 16-17mm mark.

Used 5D mark IIs are definitely cheap, but it is harder to find a completely new one. The 6D's are better for getting new, plus they're just completely newer and perform that little bit better than a 5D II. The only real advantage I see with a 5D II is a better body.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Nice review, thank you. I have added 8-15L to my list of "things to done before married"
Maybe i'll not bought 5mkii, but i' m sure i'll not buy a 6D. Because i can wait for 6d, not for 5d mkii. Than maybe 6D gets cheeper

The 6D has been around for a year, so you are right, it will be discontinued in another year or two and then it will be cheaper. However, the low prices right now are due to the poor economy. If the economy improves, prices will jump.

If you can find a 5D MK II kit for under 3,000, that's as low as I've seen one. Just a new body often sells for higher than that. There are so few available that sellers can get high prices.
I've had two of them, nice cameras, but I'd buy a 6D in a instant if I did not already have a 5D MK III. I'll be watching the dual pixel evolution, it will likely have a 2nd generation in the next FF body.

 

[Pi]

The whole thing doesn't make a lot of sense. Why buy an old generation camera when the 6D really does deliver better pictures.

Maybe, but the OP was quite clear, several times. He wants the 5D2, period.

He could try ebay, reputable sellers (they exist).

 

[jonathangrills]

Looks like B&H has a used one (condition 8+) available for $1499.99.

 

[jonathangrills]

...body only. I know here (near Toronto, Canada), a new 24-105 f/4 can be had on Craigslist in the area of $700. I'm sure the same would be true in New Jersey.

 

[mkabi]

Pssst... go to CanonRumors.com... at the top of the home page... there is a section called "Price Watch," located under the search box. Go to Cameras and click on EOS, you will find your Mark II there... hurry cause there isn't much stock in many places.

 

[jonathangrills]

Just looked at the links on the PriceWatch page...the only three that don't say "Out of Stock" are BigValueInc, BuyDig.com and CameraCanada. The BuyDig.com, at $1919, takes you to a page on their site, but there's no "add to cart" button...so no luck there. The BigValue link, at $3832, takes to you an eBay page...but for that price, I'd go for a Mark III. And the CamearCanada link, at $2049, takes you to their main page. If you search for "5D mark ii" you do see a listing for a used one...at $1299, but it's "We are sold out of these again but hope to get more in soon!".

I actually picked up a 5D2 about two months ago...used (~14K actuations), at Henry's here in Canada. I looked at CameraCanada and they're page looked then like it does now..."We are sold out of these again but hope to get more in soon!"

 

[vecihi]

Pssst... go to CanonRumors.com... at the top of the home page... there is a section called "Price Watch," located under the search box. Go to Cameras and click on EOS, you will find your Mark II there... hurry cause there isn't much stock in many places.

I have tried but they' re not available
I have sended them e-mails but i did not get any answer....Maybe i can find a good 2nd hand in Turkey..
Thanks

 

[vecihi]

The whole thing doesn't make a lot of sense. Why buy an old generation camera when the 6D really does deliver better pictures.

Maybe, but the OP was quite clear, several times. He wants the 5D2, period.

Yes. It's like talking to a child. No, on second thought, it's like talking to a wall. A child might actually be reasonable. 8)

He really should buy a 5D3. Then he can have all the things he wants in a 5D2, with the IQ of a 6D. But then, "[h]e wants the 5D2, period".

Why try to tell him that he'd be spending his money on an inferior camera? He's heard it already and he's clearly not looking for advice.

If i win a lottary, i' ll buy mkiii or 1D. If you don't feel the difference between 0,2 eV and 1/200 sync, i' m the wall

 

[Pi]

He really should buy a 5D3. Then he can have all the things he wants in a 5D2, with the IQ of a 6D. But then, "[h]e wants the 5D2, period".

Yeah, and the 1DX for a backup. With the new Zeiss 50/1.4.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Quote from: vecihi on Today at 05:03:32 PM

http://www.berger-bros.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD
Do they have the kit or the web site is outdated?



It shows 5D II kit in stock for $2,999.99 and they do ship for free worldwide.(click help and check international shipping) Do your country charge custom duty and tax for import ? Will Canon in Turkey honor warranty ?

It looks like the kit in the stock but i'm not sure it is realy in stock.
Because i give an order New York Photo & Camera and new day they refund my money because of the kit out of stock. Also if you check http://www.canonrumors.com/cameras/canon-rumors-price-watch/ for 5D, it shows buyding.com has the kit and buyding web site gives no warning, but there is no order/price link in the page
I' ll ship it to my friend in NJ and she'll handcarry it for me. If they send it directly to Turkey, customs apply %18tax

I've looked for you at several other good online stores, but they are all out. Those on ebay are listed at crazy high prices.

They are currently in stock refurbished directly from Canon, and carry a 1 year warranty. I bought a refurb, and it was near mint, only a few shutter actuations. I used it for a year before getting my MK III and selling it.

If your friend is able to order it shipped to him or her, That's a option. You cannot order them from out of the USA, so you need someone in the USA to order it for you.
http://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/cameras/refurbished-eos-digital-slr-cameras/eos-5d-mark-ii-body-refurbished

 

[thgmuffin]

Honestly the difference between 1/4000 and 1/8000 is literally nothing.

 

[vecihi]

Quote from: vecihi on Today at 05:03:32 PM

http://www.berger-bros.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD
Do they have the kit or the web site is outdated?



It shows 5D II kit in stock for $2,999.99 and they do ship for free worldwide.(click help and check international shipping) Do your country charge custom duty and tax for import ? Will Canon in Turkey honor warranty ?

It looks like the kit in the stock but i'm not sure it is realy in stock.
Because i give an order New York Photo & Camera and new day they refund my money because of the kit out of stock. Also if you check http://www.canonrumors.com/cameras/canon-rumors-price-watch/ for 5D, it shows buyding.com has the kit and buyding web site gives no warning, but there is no order/price link in the page
I' ll ship it to my friend in NJ and she'll handcarry it for me. If they send it directly to Turkey, customs apply %18tax

I've looked for you at several other good online stores, but they are all out. Those on ebay are listed at crazy high prices.

They are currently in stock refurbished directly from Canon, and carry a 1 year warranty. I bought a refurb, and it was near mint, only a few shutter actuations. I used it for a year before getting my MK III and selling it.

If your friend is able to order it shipped to him or her, That's a option. You cannot order them from out of the USA, so you need someone in the USA to order it for you.
http://shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/cameras/refurbished-eos-digital-slr-cameras/eos-5d-mark-ii-body-refurbished

Thank you, this is very helpfull

 

[vecihi]

Honestly the difference between 1/4000 and 1/8000 is literally nothing.

I know that this difference is nothing. But i type it to say "6D is not a higher level body, it has new type sensor advantages." You know for canon if the number is small, body is better 5<6

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Honestly the difference between 1/4000 and 1/8000 is literally nothing.

I know that this difference is nothing. But i type it to say "6D is not a higher level body, it has new type sensor advantages." You know for canon if the number is small, body is better 5<6

You can get a 1D for almost nothing, it must be a lot better, its a lower number ;D . Age does have something to do with it, the 5D MK II is a 5 year old design.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-EOS-1D-4-2-MP-Digital-SLR-Camera-Black-Body-Only-/171101247590?pt=Digital_Cameras&hash=item27d66dd866

 

[vecihi]

Honestly the difference between 1/4000 and 1/8000 is literally nothing.

I know that this difference is nothing. But i type it to say "6D is not a higher level body, it has new type sensor advantages." You know for canon if the number is small, body is better 5<6

You can get a 1D for almost nothing, it must be a lot better, its a lower number ;D . Age does have something to do with it, the 5D MK II is a 5 year old design.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-EOS-1D-4-2-MP-Digital-SLR-Camera-Black-Body-Only-/171101247590?pt=Digital_Cameras&hash=item27d66dd866

Nice price, 2.nd hand 400D is more expensive in Turkey.