If Canon made a " truly ultimate" DSLR body for, say, $10k would you buy it?
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Sabaki said:
What *I* would consider an all singing all dancing DSLR would *not* have some of the 1DX's features, e.g. ability to shoot 12 fps and integrated grip. I need neither and would rather not pay for those, which is why I preferred to buy a 5Dmk3.
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Maiaibing said:
There's the answer.
No way I would spend 10K on a body. Even if Canon made a custom model just for me with everything I want and nothing I don't want, I would not pay 10K. That is too much for a body.
But for a lens that is ultimate for me? 10K might be workable.
I will have to talk to the Sigma people LoL
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Not unless it allows me to do something that would make me lots of money and that I can't do for cheaper another way. Besides, the ultimate camera in 2015 is mediocre in 2017.
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So Canon introduces the "ultimate" DSLR for $10,000....
It scores poorly on DXO
2 months later Nikon introduces a DSLR that is even better....
next year Sony improves it again, but for only $6000....
Apple claims that the iPhone17 takes better pictures....
Then Canon releases the Ultimate "Ultimate DSLR" for only $12,000....
and the cycle starts again....
Meanwhile, my 10 year old camera still takes great pictures....
It scores poorly on DXO
2 months later Nikon introduces a DSLR that is even better....
next year Sony improves it again, but for only $6000....
Apple claims that the iPhone17 takes better pictures....
Then Canon releases the Ultimate "Ultimate DSLR" for only $12,000....
and the cycle starts again....
Meanwhile, my 10 year old camera still takes great pictures....
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the only thing I'd do differently about the 5D Mark III would be to have it be able to morph into the LX100 or G7X at the push of a button for when I don't feel like hauling around the weight or when the DSLR form is too obtrusive. Given that I can just purchase one of those for under $1K, and my 5DIII cost about $2K after trading in my 5DII, I see no reason to spend $10K on a supercamera.
Would I get dramatically better photos if the high-ISO IQ were doubled? focus speed was doubled? frame rate was doubled? nope. Whatever shots I'm not getting now, I probably still wouldn't get then, because I'm fairly confident the capabilities of the 5DIII as a camera exceed my capabilities as a photographer.
Would I get dramatically better photos if the high-ISO IQ were doubled? focus speed was doubled? frame rate was doubled? nope. Whatever shots I'm not getting now, I probably still wouldn't get then, because I'm fairly confident the capabilities of the 5DIII as a camera exceed my capabilities as a photographer.
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For me, the easy answer is "YES". I just spent $6000 on a single lens that only shoots a ONE focal length (one I'd use pretty rarely in the greater scheme of things (maybe 10% of the time?)- 300mm). And, I have spent $1000's overall on lenses from 8mm to 800mm (with extenders). If I could buy the "ultimate DSLR" for up to $10,000 I'd do it. And I'd keep it forever, never needing to buy another one (until 3D or holographic becomes the standard, or whatever). I wouldn't care what comes out next year. One purchase, essentially perfect focus, high speed fps, limitless IQ, that's easy. People often spend way more than that on Hasselblad or Red, without nearly as many superb lens options. And, while they are medium format, if you have the "Ultimate DSLR", you've got one helluva sensor in your camera. You only get one chance to capture a once in a lifetime image- whether it be graduation, birth of your grandchild, the meteor striking Mars, your kid's wedding, or just that picture of your family at Christmas.
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If I were a pro and it could really give an advantage over the competition for its foreseeable lifetime while it repays the expense and returns a real profit? Yes. Even at an higher price, if the profit is ok. For a pro, is a matter of ROI.
But I'm not a pro, I am not overly rich, and I have no reason to invest so much money for just a body in an already expensive hobby. So the answer is no.
It's the classic "one size DOESN'T fit all". Otherwise there won't be so many devices on the market at different price points. Not everybody wants, wish, or simpy can - afford the best of the best at a give price point.
But I'm not a pro, I am not overly rich, and I have no reason to invest so much money for just a body in an already expensive hobby. So the answer is no.
It's the classic "one size DOESN'T fit all". Otherwise there won't be so many devices on the market at different price points. Not everybody wants, wish, or simpy can - afford the best of the best at a give price point.
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If I was a billionaire with $10k to burn then yeah I might but right now the answer is no. My limit on a camera body is probably $2k maybe stretch that to $3k if I was earning more money from photography.
I tried to do a rough calculation one sleepless night of how much my gear is worth now and I'd say close to or just under $10k including everything from lenses to camera bags and all the crap in between. No wonder I couldn't sleep! Yikes!
I tried to do a rough calculation one sleepless night of how much my gear is worth now and I'd say close to or just under $10k including everything from lenses to camera bags and all the crap in between. No wonder I couldn't sleep! Yikes!
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Eldar said:
Accounting for inflation, didn't many of the 1Ds models cost that much?
Anyway, for me the answer is yes. The ultimate camera will be so revolutionary that every image I record earns me a dollar. At 50FPS, it will pay for itself post haste.
Also, it won't be full sized, but will ship with two detachable grips:
1) typical battery grip, and
2) memory grip compatible with two 2.5" solid state drives at SATA-express bandwidth.
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I think I might be missing something here. Looking at Phottix' site, I don't see which components make nice with the 645Z.privatebydesign said:
Cactus looks like a cross make compatible system that can effectively mimic the functionality of a ST-E3-RT/600EX-RT system plus more, but the prices are so low I'm wary of getting what I pay for.
Cactus linky
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Courtesy of RPL...
A common question for strobists who have a stack of 600rt's and want to use them on non-canon cameras wirelessly. A quick video of using a yongnuo STE-3 to gain the ability and also second curtain sync.
http://youtu.be/mEJYxnhUEMw
« Last Edit: October 04, 2014, 02:49:48 PM by RLPhoto »
A common question for strobists who have a stack of 600rt's and want to use them on non-canon cameras wirelessly. A quick video of using a yongnuo STE-3 to gain the ability and also second curtain sync.
http://youtu.be/mEJYxnhUEMw
« Last Edit: October 04, 2014, 02:49:48 PM by RLPhoto »
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Chasing after the "best" anything in the category of consumer electronics is like chasing after the wind.
Perhaps because I don't earn a dime from my hobby, ever dollar spent on camera gear really needs to come from disposable income. $10k is too deep for my pockets!
Perhaps because I don't earn a dime from my hobby, ever dollar spent on camera gear really needs to come from disposable income. $10k is too deep for my pockets!
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Re: If the sensor is Medium Format - maybe.
very wise move rick. mine is a 5D. Paid the premium 3.5k in August 2012, but I wanted to make those photographs at ISO 6400 which my trusty 30D couldn't do ;-) 3.5K to 4K max. And next time: i'll bite the bullet the year after release... As my only interest is better high ISOs. Regards, PeterRick said:
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