And just how big, heavy and expensive a camera do you require, sir?Make the sensor round, and then you have a choice.
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And just how big, heavy and expensive a camera do you require, sir?Make the sensor round, and then you have a choice.
Also: as much as Sony is offering a ton of tech, they've shown little ability to flip pros.
Consider: Sony is in a far far far better position to flip (say) photojournos, wedding shooters, portaiture folks, studio folks, etc. than sports and wildlife people. And they still haven't even flipped many of those folks yet.
So I give Sony a lot of credit for pumping a lot of tech out, but if they haven't flipped pros that would represent technical difficulty 3 out 10, what makes you think they'll soon have the goods to flip the 9 out of 10 warhorse sideline / safari / wildlife guys?
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Canon has stTed that they aren’t ready for a 1D mirrorless. The technology is t there yet for a top pro model. The viewfinder is a major reason given. If these new models do well, then Canon MIGHT be encouraged to put more resources into speeding that timeline up. But it could easily be another 2, 3 or even more years away.If I were Canon I would do a flagship 1DX III mirrorless. It can have superior battery power than Sony. It could have a great FPS and silent mode. A bold statement of intent. I’d keep the EF Mount for it but promise a future EF-x compact full frame. I think Canon trade a lot from the brand exposure at sports events. It can let that market fall into the hands of Sony
Canon has stTed that they aren’t ready for a 1D mirrorless. The technology is t there yet for a top pro model. The viewfinder is a major reason given. If these new models do well, then Canon MIGHT be encouraged to put more resources into speeding that timeline up. But it could easily be another 2, 3 or even more years away.
That’s one product they have to get exactly right the first time.
No, but I want lenses as fast or faster than the ones available for EF today. It’s a part of lens development as important as ever.Wait, the make-or-break issue for you is whether they can produce f/0.95 lenses??
Hello All,
Not sure if this has been discussed above as I haven’t read all posts.
Regards, Bert
It has indeed -- Don Haines (and someone else, please forgive me) brought the idea up some time ago:
The thread for discussion on this is elsewhere: https://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?threads/ef-x-mirrorless-concept.35311/
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Like 5D-series with a vertical grip.And just how big, heavy and expensive a camera do you require, sir?
And just how big, heavy and expensive a camera do you require, sir?
Parabolic. After all, if it's good for capturing signs of alien life, just imagine how awesome it will be much smaller stuff that's nearby!I vote for an octogonal sensor.
Here's how a mount -- by itself -- could change the game for users:
It is larger, such that larger max aperture lenses can be developed. (Many believe Nikon is going to do this, btw)
No, but I want lenses as fast or faster than the ones available for EF today. It’s a part of lens development as important as ever.
If Nikon brings out a new system, with really fast glass available and good ergonomics, and Canon at the same time decides to make small bodies, with few and mostly slow lenses, I will probably go with the Nikon. I’m not that bound to any specific brand. But I do dislike the trend of small cameras, with retro style flat and angular bodies.
This somewhat implies that if Sony simply had more lenses, the A9 would eat the 1DX2's lunch. That's a farce.
Please tell me why a super high FPS mirrorless FF rig is needed so urgently when 99% of all sports photogs are happily using D5 and 1DX2 cameras.
Because f/1.2 isn't fast enough?
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I'm sorry, I just don't see how the mount itself is potentially magical. The impact of the mount decision is colossal on a host of fronts: strategic, competitive positioning, user costs, lens inventory, etc. But the mount itself? It's a mount. It's a means to an end and I'm sure Canon will make one that works.
The difference between Canon's f/1.2 lenses and the rumored Nikon's f/0.95 are ~0.6 of a stop.
If that fraction of a stop made a difference for a large enough section of the market, Canon would come out with some incarnation of the 50mm f/1.0
Parabolic. After all, if it's good for capturing signs of alien life, just imagine how awesome it will be much smaller stuff that's nearby!
Like a Pringles chip: A Parabolic Paraboloid. No wonder we've been seeing those curved sensor patents.
You are absolutely the king of visual aids (I'm jealous)... but that sure looks weird. The new lens style would have to be narrower to fit past the EF flange and then as wide as the EF flange to seal. I'm not convinced there will be such a hyper-hybrid mount. Then it still really is not beneficial on the tele lengths so it seems like a lot of trouble when a pancake lens will do. Would it be any benefit weight wise? Enough to make a difference? Doesn't look like it unless the lenses are slow... which brings us back to the pancakes. It is looking more and more like a skinny mirrorless and fatty mirrorless are coming. We're sure skinny won't take EF without an adapter and fatty won't take lenses from skinny's line. It will be pure EF and more serious video wise, I think. Then again, how many will get in bed with Skinny only to see their dreams drop dead and then wish they had sided with Fatty when they were trying to satisfy their G.A.S?
What do we have? I guess about two months if the announcement takes place at Photokina. I'm not in the market at all, but I can't wait for the wait to be over and everybody can kiss and make up Oops, I forgot. Then we'll have all the disappointment threads. *sigh*
I completely agree with this. I’ve been saying the same thing. There is no reason why Canon can’t make a lens that protrudes behind the mount itself. Yes, it does seem odd, and unprotected, but I doesn’t have to be.It has indeed -- Don Haines (and someone else, please forgive me) brought the idea up some time ago:
The thread for discussion on this is elsewhere: https://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?threads/ef-x-mirrorless-concept.35311/
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Not possible with a round sensor, unless it’s small, to fit an aps-c lens coverage.Like 5D-series with a vertical grip.