Is the EOS R6 V Canon’s Answer to the Nikon ZR?

[Canon Rumors]

It has been a weird few days around here. There have been lots of gaffes on my part, but the full-frame “V” series camera is coming soon. I have been trying to figure out where an EOS R6 V would fit in the line-up from a pricing angle. I have no idea what the price […]

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[neffels]

*I'll be sitting in the corner on timeout and taking the wrath from the basements of the internet*

Timeout didn't last very long lol

 

[neuroanatomist]

The Nikon ZR uses CFexpress Type B and a microSD card to fit everything into its thin body. We haven't seen that configuration from Canon yet, but microSD is going to start appearing in more cameras this year and in the future.

MicroSD? Interesting. The PowerShot V10 has a microSD slot, as does my little PowerShot Zoom monocular (I took a couple of pictures on it once, then spent quite a while trying to find the little adapter for the card).

 

[Exploreshootshare]

Well written article and it seems logical. Now, let´s wait and see what Canon actually is up too

 

[Bob Howland]

A testable set of predictions. Courageous!

 

[Kjsheldo]

It has to have CFExpress B to do any of the 7K and raw codecs, but perhaps just a single slot.

If this camera doesn’t have IBIS, I think it will struggle. I use my R6 III way more than my C50 for video because it has IBIS (I like fast, manual focus primes). A big reason for the FX3, S1 II, and ZR success is that you can keep them small and handheld because of the IBIS. Plenty of ways to differentiate the R6V from the C50 (handle, XLR, timecode, cooling) and R6 III (EVF, mechanical shutter) and still have IBIS.

Not to sound dramatic, but I used the ZR and was blown away. The 4" screen should be mandatory for any video-focused camera going forward (nice work, Kinefinity Vista).

 

[JensR]

SD card slot? That would mean no 8K video i guess. So no 33 MP Sensor neccessary, could work with the R6II 24MP sensor. And no IBIS. Except for the LP-E6 Battery (and the ?dual SD slot?) we are pretty much in R8 territory with that.

 

[djkraq]

It has been a weird few days around here. There have been lots of gaffes on my part, but the full-frame “V” series camera is coming soon. I have been trying to figure out where an EOS R6 V would fit in the line-up from a pricing angle. I have no idea what the price […]

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I hope it has an active hotshoe for flash and IBIS. It will make it a clearer distinction from the C50, but I doubt it due to its placement being cheaper than the C50 in the lineup

 

[Steve_FR]

Thank you for this article. I'm personally very excited about the R6V, this is something I've been wanting since the R5C. My hope is they will add IBIS to the video-line "V" cameras, and leave it out of the "C" cameras. Generally - and I don't speak for everyone here - but generally cinema cameras are preferred not have IBIS, as there can be issues with vibration distortion, even with a floating sensor that has IBIS disabled. The types of video work I do involve tripod (interviews, no ibis needed) handheld (terrible without ibis) and gimbal (ibis optional). Canon has/had some corner wobble distortion in video with ibis on wide angle lenses - for this I am thankful that the R5c works great on a gimbal with no ibis, and thus no corner wobble. Handheld, however, is as jittery as an iphone 5 after 4 cups of espresso.

If Canon is aiming the R6V at small content creators, vloggers, and indie film folks - those users are absolutely going to be pissed off to not have IBIS, especially when all the previous R6 series cameras have it. For those folks that don't want IBIS, there's the C50. I would appreciate a dual line of cameras with and without ibis, like an R6V and an R6VI (with ibis) something like that, similar to the 5DS and 5DSR without the antialiasing filter. This would make a lot of people happy. Choices. Then we can complain about something else other than ibis.

 

[psychilles]

I really don’t get where this would be positioned in the lineup other than it should be cheaper than the C50 because it’s a V camera.

But isn’t that what the R6III is for?

So weird.

 

[Bob Howland]

I'm more interested in an R7V than an R6V, mostly because most of my FF lenses are old and can be noisy when focusing during a video. Most of my APS-C lenses are Sigma zooms and primes that work well on my R50V. There is also the rumor that the R7-2 would be 7680 X 4320 5120 pixels, more than the C50 or rumored R6V. One possible result that Canon could introduce an R7V using the same body as the R6V. What the relative prices would be is anybody's guess.

 

[neto velasco]

I like the idea of this camera, specially because I needed something smaller than the R6mark iii and I got the lumix S9, which size and features are incredible, love the footage from it, I would deff return it if Canon releases this to compete with a camera like lumix S9, otherwise theres the R6 mark ii and c50 already out there. IBIS on lumix is amazing and would hope this new camera has IBIS too, mechanical shutter would be great but I doubt it cause its a V camera. Anyway hope its small otherwise I have no idea who this camera is for when they can just get the R6 mark iii for couple hundred more than the expected 2k price? Plus lens? Yeeez, my lumix s9 with kit lens was $1259.

 

[davidespinosa]

@Canon Rumors -- FYI, some duplicate paragraphs in your article.

 

[Skux]

I think this is the only way it makes sense. Canon already has the C50 and the R5 and R6 series are very capable, so an entry-level cine camera like the R50 V would hit a good spot in the market.

 

[Canon Rumors]

@Canon Rumors -- FYI, some duplicate paragraphs in your article.

Doh, thanks.

 

[riker]

Since I would use it mostly for photo, I'd like to see IBIS stay.

Btw I don't think the logic is spot on - I'm not sure it's "how much you need to take out to keep price down". Prices are not only defined by the cost. It's part of marketing strategy, profit maximalization, etc. And of course real value and useability.
A compact camera always needs to be cheaper, even if internals were the same. It's primary goal in not professional work, it's in no way a replacement/alternative option for the R6 line.
It's a backup body, a street/travel cam, a vlogger cam. Even if it had the internals of the R6m3, it would need to be way cheaper.
Btw beyond the lack of EVF, it obviously won't have dual card slot, battery life, vertical grip option, the AF or FPS performance of the R6 and who knows what else. UTP/GPS option? All the stuff that is intended for higher segment.

 

[FabFR]

People who bought Nikon ZR cameras seem to really love its giant screen, I hope Canon will do so with the R6V !

IBIS or not IBIS ? Some want it, some don't... In a cinema approach, there often are more cons than pros for IBIS, I think, considering the use of tripods, gimbals, steadycam, etc.
Alas, I suppose Canon would not put an IBIS firstly because of heat dissipation, wich is easier with a sensor screwed on a metal plate with dissipator, instead of a floating plate that cannot passively convey heat outside the body. If they keep IBIS, I think they'll need a fan for extreme long video shots.
But CR says there will be no fan, only vents for a passive heat circulation.

If we add the problem of body thickness when there are IBIS + vents, it's likely there will be no IBIS to keep the body thin enough. But will it be really thin ? CR doesn't clearly answer !!
However, for a video/cine camera, I don't believe Canon can (today, after the R5 story) heavily reduce the recording time at max resolution because of overheating ! So, we have 2 options : IBIS+fan or no IBIS+vents ! My 2 cents...