It's just me but...

scottkinfw

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As the Canon's "Year of the Lens" closes I find myself disappointed with the new offerings.

So far, no lenses have inspired me to upgrade ( last lens 24-70 2.8II, and it is excellent). Otherwise, the lens announcements don't resonate. I am still waiting for great improvement in the full frame camera lines to replace the aging 5DIII or 1DX.

I'm a loyal Canon fan, however tech along with the propaganda from the other companies does appear to leave the canon sensor in the dust. A lot of the criticism is warranted and it is starting to have an impact on how I view the company and its rivals.

Anyone else feel this way.

Hoping that 2015 will be Cannon's "Year of Revolutionary New Cameras, sensors, Focusing, and all things that make other camera companies wet their panties".

I'm wearing asbestos so I'm ready. I intentionally did not mention dr, or talk numbers here, so I'm interested in how people feel.


sek
 
scottkinfw said:
Anyone else feel this way.

Hoping that 2015 will be Cannon's "Year of Revolutionary New Cameras, sensors, Focusing, and all things that make other camera companies wet their panties".

I am pretty excited about the 16-35 f/4 IS and 400 DO II. I haven't bought or preordered either yet, but both are under consideration. I've read enough to know that the other releases are generating at least some interest.

But I wouldn't hold your breath. I do not think "Shock and Aw" is Canon's plan. They seem to be more focused on releasing solid, very dependable, very capable and very useful products. They are likely setting themselves up for after the rush to digital is over (which it is). Unless you spend too much time on internet forums, these are all good things.

I will say, improvements to the sensor is, IMO, the area where Canon can make up the most on its competition with the next generation of releases. Because of this, to me, it is almost expected. But how much and what time of improvement is the question. Of course, I am still waiting on measurements of the 7DII sensor and am hopeful they have enhanced low ISO performance (high ISO seems to be 1/3-2/3 of a stop improvement). But low ISO appears to be cleaner, to my eye, I am just waiting on the measurements to tell me how much cleaner.
 
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I can't even remember any lenses released this year besides the 400 DO, and that DO technology is, to me, rather badly tainted since version 1 of it.
On the body side, I'm still disappointed with the inclusion of SD on the 7D Mark II. It's ok that they decided to give it two card slots, but, as I see it, it's targeted at a market segment that could benefit more to have it come with 2 CF's.
 
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For me, it's about what isn't currently meeting my needs first, and what would better meet my needs second. The 7DII is shaping up to be an excellent camera, even though it's not something I need. The 16-35mm f/4L IS seems excellent and I was quite tempted, but I decided the TS-E 17mm would better meet my ultrawide needs.

The 5DIII and 1D X don't seem 'aging'...not when the most recent releases from the major competitor are just catching up.
 
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scottkinfw said:
As the Canon's "Year of the Lens" closes I find myself disappointed with the new offerings.

So far, no lenses have inspired me to upgrade ( last lens 24-70 2.8II, and it is excellent). Otherwise, the lens announcements don't resonate. I am still waiting for great improvement in the full frame camera lines to replace the aging 5DIII or 1DX.

I'm a loyal Canon fan, however tech along with the propaganda from the other companies does appear to leave the canon sensor in the dust. A lot of the criticism is warranted and it is starting to have an impact on how I view the company and its rivals.

Anyone else feel this way.

Hoping that 2015 will be Cannon's "Year of Revolutionary New Cameras, sensors, Focusing, and all things that make other camera companies wet their panties".

I'm wearing asbestos so I'm ready. I intentionally did not mention dr, or talk numbers here, so I'm interested in how people feel.


sek

You're not alone. I held out last year with all of the hype about 2014 and feel like an idiot now. There's still some time though.

As for the sensor, I agree that some of the discussions on this site and others have me hoping that the new multi layer sensors (or whatever the future of Canon holds) addresses them.

My plan is to purchase the few existing lenses that I know I truly want right now and that have the features that will keep me satisfied a good while (mainly primes), and wait for the lenses I was holding out for a bit longer (ie: 14-24 f/2.8, 100-400 II which may finally be coming out, and a couple of others).
 
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neuroanatomist said:
For me, it's about what isn't currently meeting my needs first, and what would better meet my needs second. The 7DII is shaping up to be an excellent camera, even though it's not something I need. The 16-35mm f/4L IS seems excellent and I was quite tempted, but I decided the TS-E 17mm would better meet my ultrawide needs.

The 5DIII and 1D X don't seem 'aging'...not when the most recent releases from the major competitor are just catching up.

Regarding the 7d2 - I was let down at first, BUT, the more I think about it the more I'm considering buying one to complement my 5d3. The extra reach and shutter speed with the (rumored) new 100-400 would be a great wildlife combo.

I'll wait for a price reduction though since its brand new.
 
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tayassu said:
Ummm.... 10-18, 16-35, 55-200, 24, 24-105... makes a total of 6 lenses... in what year did Canon last release 6 lenses? :D

Yes, go to "history" and find out, which lenses Canon released in 2005/2006/2007/....?
Every year could be disappointing. ;) But with the continuous renewing Canon will get to every part. ;)
I personally don't think, there will be another replacement for the huge whites (300 II/400 II/500 II/600 II) soon, so "they" will update some others....
 
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As long as the 100-400 Mk II materializes this year I will be a happy Canon user. I sold my 7D and 100-400 about a year ago in anticipation of upgrades. I have the 7DII pre-ordered, now I'm waiting for the lens. As i am doing a lot of bird walks i am longing for the 7DII/100-400II combination. It's portable and has reach. If I'm not walking, well not miles, I'll take heavier gear.
 
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I guess there haven't been a lot of sexy lens releases, but if you're one of those who shoots scenics, you'd have to be comatose to not appreciate the 16-35 f/4. It is a remarkable lens at an incredibly reasonable price for what it delivers. I absolutely love it. it may not possess the sizzle of a new 400 f/2.8, but it delivers where it counts.

I also suspect that we will see a 5D Mk. IV to answer the D810 and A7r in the very near future. It's too much of a gaping hole in the lineup to continue to be absent.
 
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I think that's the problem running rampant on online communities. It's all about "what has Canon done for ME lately?" It's fine if nothing interests you, and you decide to leave Canon. Everyone makes that personal decision. For me, I love Canon's lenses I have, and my bodies have taken stunning photos over the years, and keep doing so (mainly because of the photographer, and not the camera), so I'm in no rush to change my sensor (and be forced to change me awesome assortment of world class lenses). But again, some people value the sensor more than other parts of a complete system.

However, it's ridiculous to be angry at Canon for calling it the year of the lens. Look at the lenses they've introduced. For me, the only one that interested me was the 16-35, which I bought. The others I have no use for. But you don't see me going around saying that it's not right for Canon to say the year of the lens. There seems to be a certain amount of objectivity that's missing around here. Canon has introduced some very nice lenses this year. The fact that they don't pique your interest does not make Canon's feat any less impressive.

Is it that hard not to mix up subjective personal desires with objective analysis of accomplishments.
 
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tayassu said:
DominoDude said:
I can't even remember any lenses released this year besides the 400 DO...

Ummm.... 10-18, 16-35, 55-200, 24, 24-105... makes a total of 6 lenses... in what year did Canon last release 6 lenses? :D
*sigh* I didn't say that they hadn't released any. And I'm sorry that I need to explain everything when I'm not understood; I assume, perhaps wrongfully, that people more fluent in English than I am, are able to comprehend my way of writing and reasoning. None of the released ones have had any impact on me and are not of the kind I can see myself use much, hence I don't feel the need to explicitly remember them. The Otus'es I would remember since they're more of a revolution and a great leap in technology, even though those are not on my near-future got-to-have-list.
 
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scottkinfw said:
Anyone else feel this way.

No.

Personally I am waiting patiently for a 1Ds MkIII replacement (I often require more than 18MP), a 45 and 90 TS-E (the 45 I can get around with the 24 TS-E and a 2xTC and the 90 is being worked around with the 100L Macro). I'd like a higher quality and wider ultrawide fast zoom (I never saw that much difference between the 16-35 f2.8 MkI and MkII for my use to 'upgrade').

But these are personal things that will make my life easier, not my output particularly better. In the mean time there are a million and one things that have made my life easier that are not Canon products, things like a CamRanger, TetherTools table, Wonderpana CPL for the 17TS-E, etc, or Canon products like the 600-EX-RT's.

The cameras are good and almost all limitations are in ourselves, make a choice to be a photographer or a gear hound, it doesn't matter which you are, but photographers have the best opportunities ever to make amazing images, gear hounds, by definition, will always feel a little lost with every gear cycle.
 
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DominoDude said:
tayassu said:
DominoDude said:
I can't even remember any lenses released this year besides the 400 DO...

Ummm.... 10-18, 16-35, 55-200, 24, 24-105... makes a total of 6 lenses... in what year did Canon last release 6 lenses? :D
*sigh* I didn't say that they hadn't released any. And I'm sorry that I need to explain everything when I'm not understood; I assume, perhaps wrongfully, that people more fluent in English than I am, are able to comprehend my way of writing and reasoning. None of the released ones have had any impact on me and are not of the kind I can see myself use much, hence I don't feel the need to explicitly remember them. The Otus'es I would remember since they're more of a revolution and a great leap in technology, even though those are not on my near-future got-to-have-list.

I think you (and many others on the forum) were better off being misunderstood as being misinformed about Canon releases rather than being correctly understood as one of those who cares only about ""what has Canon done for ME lately?" as Soulless Polack aptly put.
 
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Mitch.Conner said:
scottkinfw said:
As the Canon's "Year of the Lens" closes I find myself disappointed with the new offerings.

So far, no lenses have inspired me to upgrade ( last lens 24-70 2.8II, and it is excellent). Otherwise, the lens announcements don't resonate. I am still waiting for great improvement in the full frame camera lines to replace the aging 5DIII or 1DX.

I'm a loyal Canon fan, however tech along with the propaganda from the other companies does appear to leave the canon sensor in the dust. A lot of the criticism is warranted and it is starting to have an impact on how I view the company and its rivals.

Anyone else feel this way.

Hoping that 2015 will be Cannon's "Year of Revolutionary New Cameras, sensors, Focusing, and all things that make other camera companies wet their panties".

I'm wearing asbestos so I'm ready. I intentionally did not mention dr, or talk numbers here, so I'm interested in how people feel.


sek

You're not alone. I held out last year with all of the hype about 2014 and feel like an idiot now. There's still some time though.

As for the sensor, I agree that some of the discussions on this site and others have me hoping that the new multi layer sensors (or whatever the future of Canon holds) addresses them.

My plan is to purchase things that I know I want, and that have the features that will keep me satisfied a good while.

What did you hold out for, and felt like an idiot when it didn't come? Just curious.

OP, what lenses would have inspired you to upgrade?

Are we just lusting after lenses instead of using the heck out of what we have, and coming up with real gaps instead of imagined ones?
I posted a thread few weeks back wondering what lens would fill a gap I had in my arsenal. The good forum members made me realize how the gap was imagined rather than real and what I had was more than sufficient (it was as anti-G.A.S. as a thread can get).

As PBD said, our productivity can often be more impacted by the tools instead of lenses or bodies.
 
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scottkinfw said:
As the Canon's "Year of the Lens" closes I find myself disappointed with the new offerings.
My opinion and feeling is that I had expected something different from Canon.

The 16-35 IS seems to be a really outstanding uwa zoom. Not my range of mm, but I feel tempted.
The 400 DO is too expensive for me, but it'll be interesting to see, what the next gemeration of DO brings.
A lot of "consumer" lenses (10-18, 24-105, EF-S 24) seem more than just decent, but I'm not the customer for those.
I was expecting a few more L and non L primes. 50, 85, 135 for example.
So a little disappointed? yes. But not too much. I don't have too much money to spend ;)

Let's see if the unicorn 100-400L or the 11-24/4 uwa come true... these would be very interesting and for some real game changers.

... to replace the aging 5DIII or 1DX.
Yes, the sensor performance is not up to date but you still can make brilliant pictures with them. And anything else on them? I definetly wouldn't call that "aging".

Hoping that 2015 will be Cannon's "Year of Revolutionary New Cameras, sensors, Focusing, and all things that make other camera companies wet their panties".
From what I see how they were acting throughout the last few years, I wouldn't expect too much.
Otherwise it'll be another disappointing year.
I am hoping that they'll show up, with what will be their future sensor tech. Because at this point they need to move.
 
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I am really annoyed that the efs-24 is an crop lens. I love my ef-40 and would of been nice to have a 24 too. But that would of taken away from the ef-24 is.
But I am glad they made the ef-10-18 I wont ever get it but that was a big hole in their line up for cheap products.
 
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scottkinfw said:
As the Canon's "Year of the Lens" closes I find myself disappointed with the new offerings.

So far, no lenses have inspired me to upgrade ( last lens 24-70 2.8II, and it is excellent). Otherwise, the lens announcements don't resonate. I am still waiting for great improvement in the full frame camera lines to replace the aging 5DIII or 1DX.

I'm a loyal Canon fan, however tech along with the propaganda from the other companies does appear to leave the canon sensor in the dust. A lot of the criticism is warranted and it is starting to have an impact on how I view the company and its rivals.

Anyone else feel this way.

Hoping that 2015 will be Cannon's "Year of Revolutionary New Cameras, sensors, Focusing, and all things that make other camera companies wet their panties".

I'm wearing asbestos so I'm ready. I intentionally did not mention dr, or talk numbers here, so I'm interested in how people feel.


sek


No disappointment here. The only lens I've purchased this year is the 16-35 f/4. It's excellent. It could be faster, but it more than meets any needs I have. As far as cameras go, I might be interested in the 7D MkII. I'll wait for the serious reviews, but I expect I might want it at some point. Still, I like my 7D. I know others have complaints about it respecting this, that and the other thing but I have few issues with its auto-focus, IQ or anything else. I have a 5D, Mark II. The only real reason I might like to upgrade it sometime is for a better auto-focusing system. Even there, however, I mostly use the 5D for landscapes. Who really needs a thousand auto-focus points for that? The only other lens I might be interested in this year isn't a Canon, but the Sigma 150-600. We'll see.
 
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SoullessPolack said:
However, it's ridiculous to be angry at Canon for calling it the year of the lens. Look at the lenses they've introduced.

Sorry, but when did Canon call it 'the year of the lens'?? CanonRumors doesn't speak for Canon.


SoullessPolack said:
Is it that hard not to mix up subjective personal desires with objective analysis of accomplishments.

For some people, it seems to be impossible.
 
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