Just got my 135L!

[Zv]

The 135L was the first used lens I ever bought. Did not regret that decision. Surely a e refurb is just as good if not better than a well looked after used lens. And the 135L is solidly built. Not heard of anyone having issues with this lens on CR. I could be wrong!

 

[Niterider]

Why not put another $100ish and get new lens....I just don't get it :-\

Actually about $250 if you check the official retail prices. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/112539-USA/Canon_2520A004_Telephoto_EF_135mm_f_2_0L.html

On top of this, with the refurbished warranty now matching the regular MFR's warranty (1 year) there's almost no real reason to "just" spend the extra $100/$250/whatever it is that the cost is. You're basically paying for a retail box, and a camera that is just as likely (okay, technically it's actually slightly more likely) to have issues than a refurbished camera.

*The reason why I believe a new camera is more likely to have issues than a refurbished camera is that a refurbished camera has already been given the factory once-over, and either was returned and refurbished to new for some reason, or didn't finish the original manufacturing process and had to be pulled from the line and adjusted/fixed before being considered finished. Thus, things get QC checked twice, compared to the once that normal retail gets.

Let get one thing straight, REBURB item DO NOT get treat special as many of you think.

Refurb. is defective item. PERIOD. NOT opened box or returned to customer changed mind.

Refurb. could be a simple broken cold solder joint in elec. circuit boards after 1-2yrs of use. Worst - broken parts that repaired with parts came from 3rd party vendors or contract manufacture(CM). NOT original parts that call out from Canon BILL OF MATERIAL(BOM)

Rather than getting sent through a QA process, they are fixed and hand tested to meet or exceed the quality of those which are sold as new. Canon has far too good of a reputation riding on their refurbished line to put 3rd party parts in their lenses. Further, I have dismantled the lenses I've purchased refurbished from them and the look as brand new on the inside as they do on the outside.

If you have not purchased a lens through their refurb program, you have no grounds to speak on for this debate. Please do refrain from getting up on a soapbox and stating your opinion as though it were fact, for it makes you look ignorant.

 

[bdunbar79]

Why not put another $100ish and get new lens....I just don't get it :-\

Actually about $250 if you check the official retail prices. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/112539-USA/Canon_2520A004_Telephoto_EF_135mm_f_2_0L.html

On top of this, with the refurbished warranty now matching the regular MFR's warranty (1 year) there's almost no real reason to "just" spend the extra $100/$250/whatever it is that the cost is. You're basically paying for a retail box, and a camera that is just as likely (okay, technically it's actually slightly more likely) to have issues than a refurbished camera.

*The reason why I believe a new camera is more likely to have issues than a refurbished camera is that a refurbished camera has already been given the factory once-over, and either was returned and refurbished to new for some reason, or didn't finish the original manufacturing process and had to be pulled from the line and adjusted/fixed before being considered finished. Thus, things get QC checked twice, compared to the once that normal retail gets.

Let get one thing straight, REBURB item DO NOT get treat special as many of you think.

Refurb. is defective item. PERIOD. NOT opened box or returned to customer changed mind.

Refurb. could be a simple broken cold solder joint in elec. circuit boards after 1-2yrs of use. Worst - broken parts that repaired with parts came from 3rd party vendors or contract manufacture(CM). NOT original parts that call out from Canon BILL OF MATERIAL(BOM)

Sorry, I gotta do it again:

 

[Jay Khaos]

Let get one thing straight, REBURB item DO NOT get treat special as many of you think.

Refurb. is defective item. PERIOD. NOT opened box or returned to customer changed mind.

Refurb. could be a simple broken cold solder joint in elec. circuit boards after 1-2yrs of use. Worst - broken parts that repaired with parts came from 3rd party vendors or contract manufacture(CM). NOT original parts that call out from Canon BILL OF MATERIAL(BOM)

Rather than getting sent through a QA process, they are fixed and hand tested to meet or exceed the quality of those which are sold as new. Canon has far too good of a reputation riding on their refurbished line to put 3rd party parts in their lenses. Further, I have dismantled the lenses I've purchased refurbished from them and the look as brand new on the inside as they do on the outside.

If you have not purchased a lens through their refurb program, you have no grounds to speak on for this debate. Please do refrain from getting up on a soapbox and stating your opinion as though it were fact, for it makes you look ignorant.

I hope you are the correct one here Niterider... It would be more trouble for Canon to go out of their way to make a new business out of downgrading parts when they already have mass quantities of original parts and a streamlined way of producing their products. The "piece of mind" that comes with a freshly sealed box is the only thing you get for the difference in price...

Dylan, have you had a bad experience with buying refurbished gear?

 

[cellomaster27]

Wow! That's really really good to hear about canon refurb!! Thanks!!

Quick question... Is it worth getting the 135L even for crop sensor? Lol thanks! I might "just" get one.

 

[CarlTN]

I scored a 135L for $859 the other day. I have this trust issue with used things, especially high quality technology, but I pulled the trigger anyways. The lens arrived in immaculate condition, basically brand new. These following shots are LITERALLY the first two shots I took out front of my house. Wow, the countless comments I read on this forum really do live up to the hype. Easily my favorite lens yet.

Congratulations! It's my favorite also. I bought mine new from Abe's of Maine, in 2009, for about $930.

 

[Dylan777]

Why not put another $100ish and get new lens....I just don't get it :-\

Actually about $250 if you check the official retail prices. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/112539-USA/Canon_2520A004_Telephoto_EF_135mm_f_2_0L.html

On top of this, with the refurbished warranty now matching the regular MFR's warranty (1 year) there's almost no real reason to "just" spend the extra $100/$250/whatever it is that the cost is. You're basically paying for a retail box, and a camera that is just as likely (okay, technically it's actually slightly more likely) to have issues than a refurbished camera.

*The reason why I believe a new camera is more likely to have issues than a refurbished camera is that a refurbished camera has already been given the factory once-over, and either was returned and refurbished to new for some reason, or didn't finish the original manufacturing process and had to be pulled from the line and adjusted/fixed before being considered finished. Thus, things get QC checked twice, compared to the once that normal retail gets.

Let get one thing straight, REBURB item DO NOT get treat special as many of you think.

Refurb. is defective item. PERIOD. NOT opened box or returned to customer changed mind.

Refurb. could be a simple broken cold solder joint in elec. circuit boards after 1-2yrs of use. Worst - broken parts that repaired with parts came from 3rd party vendors or contract manufacture(CM). NOT original parts that call out from Canon BILL OF MATERIAL(BOM)

Rather than getting sent through a QA process, they are fixed and hand tested to meet or exceed the quality of those which are sold as new. Canon has far too good of a reputation riding on their refurbished line to put 3rd party parts in their lenses. Further, I have dismantled the lenses I've purchased refurbished from them and the look as brand new on the inside as they do on the outside.

If you have not purchased a lens through their refurb program, you have no grounds to speak on for this debate. Please do refrain from getting up on a soapbox and stating your opinion as though it were fact, for it makes you look ignorant.

With 15yrs in mannufacturing, controlling CMs over sea...this method is currently been use in BIG companies. I should had said in my statement about 3rd party vendors, this is elec. 3 party vendor components. (capacitor, resistor, IC chip, SMT parts etc...)

I'll give you a hint: time = $. Putting more time to repair defective parts and sell for less is not how business operates. Today, big companies don't even try to trouble shoot in components level anymore. They replace PCB, WP levels.

Without knowledge in today manufacturing: "LEAN MANAFACTURING" & "SUPPLY CHAIN", your comments could make you look ignorant.

You mentioned, "I have dismantled the lenses I've purchased refurbished from them and the look as brand new on the inside as they do on the outside" ==> Unless you can indentify the original elec. components that were called out from Canon Bill of Material in MFG.

THE TRUE HURT, therefore, people don't like to hear it

 

[Dylan777]

I hope you are the correct one here Niterider... It would be more trouble for Canon to go out of their way to make a new business out of downgrading parts when they already have mass quantities of original parts and a streamlined way of producing their products. The "piece of mind" that comes with a freshly sealed box is the only thing you get for the difference in price...

Dylan, have you had a bad experience with buying refurbished gear?

No, I would rather buy used from original owner.

 

[bdunbar79]

Why not put another $100ish and get new lens....I just don't get it :-\

Actually about $250 if you check the official retail prices. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/112539-USA/Canon_2520A004_Telephoto_EF_135mm_f_2_0L.html

On top of this, with the refurbished warranty now matching the regular MFR's warranty (1 year) there's almost no real reason to "just" spend the extra $100/$250/whatever it is that the cost is. You're basically paying for a retail box, and a camera that is just as likely (okay, technically it's actually slightly more likely) to have issues than a refurbished camera.

*The reason why I believe a new camera is more likely to have issues than a refurbished camera is that a refurbished camera has already been given the factory once-over, and either was returned and refurbished to new for some reason, or didn't finish the original manufacturing process and had to be pulled from the line and adjusted/fixed before being considered finished. Thus, things get QC checked twice, compared to the once that normal retail gets.

Let get one thing straight, REBURB item DO NOT get treat special as many of you think.

Refurb. is defective item. PERIOD. NOT opened box or returned to customer changed mind.

Refurb. could be a simple broken cold solder joint in elec. circuit boards after 1-2yrs of use. Worst - broken parts that repaired with parts came from 3rd party vendors or contract manufacture(CM). NOT original parts that call out from Canon BILL OF MATERIAL(BOM)

Rather than getting sent through a QA process, they are fixed and hand tested to meet or exceed the quality of those which are sold as new. Canon has far too good of a reputation riding on their refurbished line to put 3rd party parts in their lenses. Further, I have dismantled the lenses I've purchased refurbished from them and the look as brand new on the inside as they do on the outside.

If you have not purchased a lens through their refurb program, you have no grounds to speak on for this debate. Please do refrain from getting up on a soapbox and stating your opinion as though it were fact, for it makes you look ignorant.

With 15yrs in mannufacturing, controlling CMs over sea...this method is currently been use in BIG companies. I should had clarify my statement 3rd party vendors, this is elec. 3 party vendor components. (capacitor, resistor, IC chip, SMT parts etc...)

I'll give you a hint: time = $. Putting more time to repair defective parts and sell for less is not how business operates. Today, big companies don't even try to trouble shoot in components level anymore. They replace PCB, WP levels.

Without knowledge in "LEAN MANAFACTURING" & "SUPPLY CHAIN" today business, your comments could make you look ignorant.

You mentioned, "I have dismantled the lenses I've purchased refurbished from them and the look as brand new on the inside as they do on the outside" ==> Unless you can indentify the original elec. components that were called out from Canon Bill of Material in MFG.

THE TRUE HURT, therefore, people don't like to hear it

We don't really care about any of that. We're talking about CANON and what CANON does with refurb items. Do you KNOW that's what Canon does, or are you just guessing and then in a weird twist of irony calling everyone else's statements ignorant? Please demonstrate with facts that what you have said is TRUE regarding Canon refurb products. You keep mentioning "big companies" but you've never mentioned Canon.

 

[Dylan777]

We don't really care about any of that. We're talking about CANON and what CANON does with refurb items. Do you KNOW that's what Canon does, or are you just guessing and then in a weird twist of irony calling everyone else's statements ignorant? Please demonstrate with facts that what you have said is TRUE regarding Canon refurb products. You keep mentioning "big companies" but you've never mentioned Canon.

I DIDN'T call "everyone else's statements ignorant".

My response "Without knowledge in "LEAN MANAFACTURING" & "SUPPLY CHAIN" today business, your comments could make you look ignorant." was pin-point @ NiteRider.

I don't work for Canon. If you think Canon is a big company, then you should REALLY think about it. Business concept & structure are the same.

Which accounting method do you think Canon is using?
1. + in one account and add + in another account
OR
2. + in one account, - in another account

 

[bdunbar79]

So just like I thought, you have no idea.

 

[EOBeav]

In the spirit of getting back on the OP's topic, I just got my 135mm f/2 L a few weeks ago and I love it. $900 from a local, trusted professional photographer. If you look online, these things just aren't losing their value much. I felt like I got a great deal on a high quality, carefully used lens.

 

[Niterider]

Why not put another $100ish and get new lens....I just don't get it :-\

Actually about $250 if you check the official retail prices. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/112539-USA/Canon_2520A004_Telephoto_EF_135mm_f_2_0L.html

On top of this, with the refurbished warranty now matching the regular MFR's warranty (1 year) there's almost no real reason to "just" spend the extra $100/$250/whatever it is that the cost is. You're basically paying for a retail box, and a camera that is just as likely (okay, technically it's actually slightly more likely) to have issues than a refurbished camera.

*The reason why I believe a new camera is more likely to have issues than a refurbished camera is that a refurbished camera has already been given the factory once-over, and either was returned and refurbished to new for some reason, or didn't finish the original manufacturing process and had to be pulled from the line and adjusted/fixed before being considered finished. Thus, things get QC checked twice, compared to the once that normal retail gets.

Let get one thing straight, REBURB item DO NOT get treat special as many of you think.

Refurb. is defective item. PERIOD. NOT opened box or returned to customer changed mind.

Refurb. could be a simple broken cold solder joint in elec. circuit boards after 1-2yrs of use. Worst - broken parts that repaired with parts came from 3rd party vendors or contract manufacture(CM). NOT original parts that call out from Canon BILL OF MATERIAL(BOM)

Rather than getting sent through a QA process, they are fixed and hand tested to meet or exceed the quality of those which are sold as new. Canon has far too good of a reputation riding on their refurbished line to put 3rd party parts in their lenses. Further, I have dismantled the lenses I've purchased refurbished from them and the look as brand new on the inside as they do on the outside.

If you have not purchased a lens through their refurb program, you have no grounds to speak on for this debate. Please do refrain from getting up on a soapbox and stating your opinion as though it were fact, for it makes you look ignorant.

With 15yrs in mannufacturing, controlling CMs over sea...this method is currently been use in BIG companies. I should had said in my statement about 3rd party vendors, this is elec. 3 party vendor components. (capacitor, resistor, IC chip, SMT parts etc...)

I'll give you a hint: time = $. Putting more time to repair defective parts and sell for less is not how business operates. Today, big companies don't even try to trouble shoot in components level anymore. They replace PCB, WP levels.

Without knowledge in today manufacturing: "LEAN MANAFACTURING" & "SUPPLY CHAIN", your comments could make you look ignorant.

You mentioned, "I have dismantled the lenses I've purchased refurbished from them and the look as brand new on the inside as they do on the outside" ==> Unless you can indentify the original elec. components that were called out from Canon Bill of Material in MFG.

THE TRUE HURT, therefore, people don't like to hear it

It sure helps to be an electrical engineer chip designer in this situation where I can compare the components on the boards of the refurbished lenses to that of my new lenses...

You may know manufacturing tech (even though it obviously seems like you clearly do not), but this is not a debate on the widely accepted practice of refurbishing products. Unlike other companies, Canon does not do what you claim them to be doing. Making hasty generalizations about a specific company (Canon) which you have no experience with kinda makes you look ignorant.

Really, if you want to prove your right, pull apart the lenses and show the internal chip components are different. Plain and simple

 

[EOBeav]

So much for getting this thread back on topic. I guess I'll go have fun and shoot with my 135mm f/2 L now.

 

[sunnyVan]

So much for getting this thread back on topic. I guess I'll go have fun and shoot with my 135mm f/2 L now.

HAHA. Thanks for trying.

 

[marcel]

Fantastic! Congratulations!

 

[Rienzphotoz]

I scored a 135L for $859 the other day. Easily my favorite lens yet.

Congratulations, may it serve you well ... I like what you did with the Amazon boxes.

 

[Quasimodo]

I was debating purchasing a 135L - actually placed an order for a refurb at a great deal with Canon but later changed my mind and canceled it... reason being that i already own the 100/2.8L and 85/1.8. Reading owners comments on both 135/2L and 100/2.8L it seems like the two are pretty close in terms of image quality but 100/2.8L is more verstile with macro focus ability (135 min focus distance is 3 ft) as well as IS.

Anyone who has owned both could comment on both these? DO you agree the two lenses are pretty similar but with 100 being more verstile?

Two different lenses. A lot of fun with the 100, but the 135 for killer portraits

 

[Quasimodo]

I scored a 135L for $859 the other day. I have this trust issue with used things, especially high quality technology, but I pulled the trigger anyways. The lens arrived in immaculate condition, basically brand new. These following shots are LITERALLY the first two shots I took out front of my house. Wow, the countless comments I read on this forum really do live up to the hype. Easily my favorite lens yet.

Congrats! My favorite lens

 

[Quasimodo]

Wow! That's really really good to hear about canon refurb!! Thanks!!

Quick question... Is it worth getting the 135L even for crop sensor? Lol thanks! I might "just" get one.

To my great annoyance my wife very often steals my 135 for her 600D. Don't understand why she can't use the 18-55 IS II that came with it?

It produces outstanding pictures on a crop as well!