Lenses: 35L II & 85L III Next Up? [CR1]
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q3chap said:
This is probably a good guess as it seem that the new lens are based off of a new higher exchange rate. Just for reference, the current 35L I sells for $1850 USD new and $1500 used in Japan right now at local retailers. So I think your guess is right that the 35L II would be in the $2250-2500 range.
Just remember Canon prices aren't evil, but that the USD is worth 60% of what it was against the JPY 6 years ago.
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I found my 35mm L 1.4 at the pawn shop I work at. It had been priced at only $300, because they don't know lenses well enough. I already had the same lens, but how fast did I buy this lens?? So fast it makes your head spin. Sold my old copy for $1100, and made $800 quick-like!
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Rumors of a 35L II started about 4 years ago I believe.
I'd buy one, but at CR1 today, that lens won't be out until 2015.
I'd also like an updated 50 1.4 which is sharp at 1.4 and blazing fast and accurate USM.
How about a great 85 1.4 with fast Focus? I'd take an 85 1.4 over the 1.2 just to save weight and money.
I'd buy one, but at CR1 today, that lens won't be out until 2015.
I'd also like an updated 50 1.4 which is sharp at 1.4 and blazing fast and accurate USM.
How about a great 85 1.4 with fast Focus? I'd take an 85 1.4 over the 1.2 just to save weight and money.
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q3chap said:
Hmm that is how much my 300 2.8 IS cost me, just about.
(plus the current 85 L has pretty amazing image quality)
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tron said:q3chap said:tron said:
thats why I wrote .. All completly redesigned....
the 70-300L was at the beginning 1599 USD for F4-5,6 ... so I think it is not unrealistic for the 24-105 with that price.
The 70-300L lens didn't exist before (It's version 1) and it is a major upgrade for someone who has the non-L (and much cheaper) version. This price is understandable more or less.
However the 24-105 is an already decent L version. Even redesigned cannot be a major upgrade for the version 1 owners. True a little less vignetting and a 4-stop IS (but it has a 3-stop IS already) would be welcome but my point is that a second version 1K more expensive lens wouldn't be value for money.
I gotta disagree. The 24-105L disappointed me more than any lens ever. Convenient but very average performance (1/4 price Tamron was sharper, even at FF edges).
The 24-105 has room, if any L lens has room, to improve.
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What??? 40% price increase for new Canon L lenses!!!!
If Canon people is looking @ this post, i just wanted to let you guys know, forget it, im not a canonista anymore. Seriously considering selling everything and move to Nikon. The price increase is as abusive as slavery. They are playing the game of major petroleum & oil companies. The filthy game of speculation!! So corrupt, evidently no commitment to customers that has been loyal to the brand for many years.
Sincerely, Charlie
If Canon people is looking @ this post, i just wanted to let you guys know, forget it, im not a canonista anymore. Seriously considering selling everything and move to Nikon. The price increase is as abusive as slavery. They are playing the game of major petroleum & oil companies. The filthy game of speculation!! So corrupt, evidently no commitment to customers that has been loyal to the brand for many years.
Sincerely, Charlie
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stilscream said:
Whoa that is the one of the most insane deals I've ever heard, maybe the most insane!
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Gas prices are double what they were 3 years ago... Bernanke has added trillions of funny money... Japan was hit with a tsunami, the Dollar has gotten much weaker than the Yen. Lens technology is not the same as computer technology. It does not get 2x better every 18 months for the same price.
I would enjoy this thread so much more if we could quit complaining about the greedy corporate fat cats at Canon and focus on the great advancements we would like to see in our favorite lenses.
I would enjoy this thread so much more if we could quit complaining about the greedy corporate fat cats at Canon and focus on the great advancements we would like to see in our favorite lenses.
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Zlatko said:
Don't necessarily agree with the notion that everything new and updated must cost more, or at least a lot more.
There are plenty of products out there where new and updated versions are better and less expensive than previous versions such as the computer and TV industries. Yes I realize its an apple vs oranges scenario when comparing photo equipment with TVs and computers. Photo equipment holds a much better value than TVs and computers.
IMO it seems to me Canon chooses to charge the very highest price they think the market will support in effort to make a profit as opposed to charging a slightly lower price and making that same profit with higher volume of sales. We all know Apple is very successful with this strategy, but they could increase their market share even more if they lowered their prices some.
Yes I get it, Canon is in business to make money. I believe their primary goal is not to make us happy, but first and for most make money. I realize they need to cover their R&D, manufacturing, tooling, and material costs. But don't tell me some of those costs can't be carried over into the next generation of a lens or body.
I'm saving up for a 35L II in hopes of WS. I'm expecting this lens will be priced too high and I will end up getting the current version. As a general rule, I think a 15 to 20% cost increase over the current is justified and I would hope Canon can still cover their costs and make a profit.
I"m not an economist or marketing person so maybe I'm missing something, but I' don't think I'm too far off.
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Considering the current version is already a stellar performer and certainly near to or top of the L line-up, I'd like Canon to invest their research and development elsewhere. While weather-sealing would be wonderful, in practice it isn't as big a "problem" as the issue of slow 85L II AF.tron said:
And you can bet that the price of the 35L will shoot up as the new version comes in at a premium. Start buying now, before the crazy deals pass!
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I just got the 50mm 1.2L last week and I have been shooting with it since.
I haven't noticed any of the negative comments I often see being thrown around about it. I don't see a need for a mark 2 just yet. On my 5dmk3 it focuses quickly, is extremely sharp (even wide open).
1.2 is extremely shallow and does take some getting used to, but overall it is a pretty fantastic lens and I'm having a hard time discovering what so many people find faulty with this lens.
I haven't noticed any of the negative comments I often see being thrown around about it. I don't see a need for a mark 2 just yet. On my 5dmk3 it focuses quickly, is extremely sharp (even wide open).
1.2 is extremely shallow and does take some getting used to, but overall it is a pretty fantastic lens and I'm having a hard time discovering what so many people find faulty with this lens.
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