Lenses for 1DC?

[Policar]

Also, although the site is full of absolute garbage information for the most part, the lens section of reduser.com has some good info on affordable high quality glass.

Fwiw, I really love the MF Nikkors and they have hard stops and good focus throws and are almost free (of course you need adapters, which are a pain). The 105mm f2.5 is a gem so you can put together a great full kit, but... The 24mm f2 is garbage (I think the 24mm f2.8 is better, but maybe not much and it's slow; the 28mm f2 has spherical aberration wide open but is otherwise excellent), though so the wide end becomes tricky. For a "vintage" look these lenses are amazing, though, and so inexpensive.

Another option is the 24-70mm and 70-200mm zooms, but then you have issues with pulling focus.

 

[billybob]

Sorry, I just realised the 11-16 that might vignette is not in the Duclos package and the entire package should work in 4k mode.

It does seem a better option than one or two lenses, to get five if they are going to match the quality to my eye...

 

[eyeland]

I have some considerations similar to the OP - Should I necro this thread or start a new? Guess I'll try to revive it as it already contains a host of valuable advice.
Anyways, I have been offered to shoot a travel/nature/lifestyle pilot (and much more if the pilot goes well) on a 1DC for an upcoming 4K content production house, and I will be partly responsible for putting the kit together along with the boss
Initially, he thought he'd be able to get one do-it-all-zoom, but I have warned him that he WILL need several pieces of glass, and that the canon cine zooms are too expensive for our budget so far (and too heavy to e versatile enough for our trips.)
We are starting small and building from there, so I need a little advice on lenses. We will be shooting alot outdoors (desserts, rain-forest, underwater housing, stabilized aerials) so I think we need a rugged kit
As mentioned, the Cine-zooms are above budget. I would love to go straight for a full prime-kit such as the Duclos, but firstly, we might need to start even simpler than that, and secondly, I think that we might really need a zoom lens or 2 for certain scenarios.
In the end, we might rent glas for the pilot, but the questions remain the same.
Does it make sense to start out with a 24-70II and a few cheap primes for the Pilot?
Also, are the canon cine primes worth the premium over eg. the Duclos set?
Whats the best way to go for landscape beauty shots?
I assume that 16-35L is sub par?
Canons recent non-L primes with IS (for the occasional semi-candid hand-helds) look very nice, but I think we will need the build and sealing of the L/Cine. How are the Duclos in terms of sealing?
I am yet unsure the extend to which de-clicking and gears will be needed.

Ps. I know these are enough questions for several threads, and I might be overly enthusiastic atm but cut me some slack, I just got one step closer to my dream job, "70,000 fathoms deep" .
This pilot is a big thing for me and I really want to do everything I can to make run smoothly so I can stay and grow with the job (and the cam. (just thinking about the 1DC with a set of Zeiss primes makes me all warm and fuzzy inside)

 

[brad goda]

I think more important to consider is what rig you are using for your set up... focus pulling... T adjust
the EF and ZF lenses are good.. but NOT cinema lenses... focus racking and seamless T adjustments are made way different on Canon cinema and Zeiss CP.2

yes any or most lenses will be good... but what kind of mechanics will your film making require.
there will be many adaptations you will have to make to make EF lenses fit matte boxes and rigs...

 

[eyeland]

I think more important to consider is what rig you are using for your set up... focus pulling... T adjust (...) yes any or most lenses will be good... but what kind of mechanics will your film making require. there will be many adaptations you will have to make to make EF lenses fit matte boxes and rigs...

I understand this and I realize that my post was very vague.
To begin with, we're doing a very crude setup for the pilot (its just a 2-3 day shoot), I will mostly be doing landscape beauty-shots (big panoramas and star-timelapse), so I think we might do the first shoot without any real rig. Probably a nice tripod, a merlin glide and a simple slider. Maybe a very simple follow-focus, but this is not even certain. In future shoots, (if all goes well) we'd be going much more cinematic, eg. more narrative shots, more characters and much more focus pulling.
Maybe I should distinguish between questions that have to with optical qualities and questions pertaining to ergonomics and other non optical considerations.

the EF and ZF lenses are good.. but NOT cinema lenses... focus racking and seamless T adjustments are made way different on Canon cinema and Zeiss CP.2

I don't understand what you mean by this?

From what it looks like today, we might start off with one or two zooms and a few primes. I assume that eg. 24-70II+70-200 2.8II is a sturdy combo, but what if we want to go wider than that?
From an optical standpoint, are there any L-glass that you would NOT recommend using for 4K?