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Possibly another old school guy who doesn't know how to use new tech. If he wanted images to be more accurate for static subjects including his zeiss lens he would have used spot focus. Who knows if he did but its interesting.
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Watched the Digitalrev hands on review and comparison to the D800 so far it appears the Mark III is an all round better camera, better video. However the Nikon has the resolution. Kai who is seen as a Nikon fanboy prefers the 5D over the D800!
And can someone please tell me how people prefer the Nex over any other camera system model based on Sensor alone? As with the exception of the Zeiss 24, none of the other lenses are good enough on that system. In fact the sensot out resolves all the kit lenses, and the micro lenses on the sensor does not play well with many legacy lenses!
Which leaves me asking this question how do so many people talk bout the Nex series and forgetting the lenses they have!
I have a Nex5n and whilst the camera is great the lenses are poor, and big! Prefer M43 for my small take everywhere camera!
I will probably pick up Mark III later this year say August especially if video work picks up!
And can someone please tell me how people prefer the Nex over any other camera system model based on Sensor alone? As with the exception of the Zeiss 24, none of the other lenses are good enough on that system. In fact the sensot out resolves all the kit lenses, and the micro lenses on the sensor does not play well with many legacy lenses!
Which leaves me asking this question how do so many people talk bout the Nex series and forgetting the lenses they have!
I have a Nex5n and whilst the camera is great the lenses are poor, and big! Prefer M43 for my small take everywhere camera!
I will probably pick up Mark III later this year say August especially if video work picks up!
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I really don't care what ends up being declared the winner eventually.
You have to pick whats best for you and your style of photography.
As a 7 year Nikon user who switched to Canon with the 5D MK3 purchase (on a pre-order I might add), I have to say I'm enjoying the system a lot.
What people jumping the other way are going to find is that all the best Nikon lenses are sold out and on near permanent backorder.
The only way to get them was to pay $300 - $500 markups by gougers on Amazon or Ebay.
This was the biggest problem with Nikon before the success of the D800 and I'm sure it has got worse...
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You have to pick whats best for you and your style of photography.
As a 7 year Nikon user who switched to Canon with the 5D MK3 purchase (on a pre-order I might add), I have to say I'm enjoying the system a lot.
What people jumping the other way are going to find is that all the best Nikon lenses are sold out and on near permanent backorder.
The only way to get them was to pay $300 - $500 markups by gougers on Amazon or Ebay.
This was the biggest problem with Nikon before the success of the D800 and I'm sure it has got worse...
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What I like about his reviews is that he expresses his opinion in enough detail that I can easily discount things I don't agree with given my personal preferences. What I dislike about his reviews is that his pay wall is too expensive per year.
His review is on-going, but, he seems to have settled down in his opinions pretty quickly; to me that reflects his personal preferences more than his ability to adapt to what a camera can do. Nothing wrong with that, but, it is definitely another reason not to look at his review as definitive.
http://diglloyd.com/index-dap.html#Canon5DM3
I'm waiting for dpreview's review. I like their number crunching a lot better than DXO.
As for the 5D3, I decided to not return it. So now I'm looking forward to reading up from fellow users how to get around its flaws. So far, aside from price, it has been less frustrating than dealing with the 5D2.
His review is on-going, but, he seems to have settled down in his opinions pretty quickly; to me that reflects his personal preferences more than his ability to adapt to what a camera can do. Nothing wrong with that, but, it is definitely another reason not to look at his review as definitive.
http://diglloyd.com/index-dap.html#Canon5DM3
I'm waiting for dpreview's review. I like their number crunching a lot better than DXO.
As for the 5D3, I decided to not return it. So now I'm looking forward to reading up from fellow users how to get around its flaws. So far, aside from price, it has been less frustrating than dealing with the 5D2.
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The Autofocus is far better.( If its worth 1000 Dollar/Euro more, I don`t know.)
Now I am able to make an almost 100% of keepers regarding "focused correct" without the hated "Focus and recompose", if the subject of desired sharpness is not in the centre.
My pictures are very satisfiing, sharpness (using the Raw Converter 6.7rc on CS5) they are clean, no sensations, but also no complainst, so I don`t understand this review.
Now I am able to make an almost 100% of keepers regarding "focused correct" without the hated "Focus and recompose", if the subject of desired sharpness is not in the centre.
My pictures are very satisfiing, sharpness (using the Raw Converter 6.7rc on CS5) they are clean, no sensations, but also no complainst, so I don`t understand this review.
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Lets face it, Canon COULD have done better with the 5D3. Ive been playing with mine for more than a week now, and I am seeing maybe .5 to 1 stop improvement in the sensor over the 5D2. Don't get me wrong, the 5D3 is a great camera. I would agree with some others though, that Nikon has produced a more revolutionary upgrade this time around. As a professional wedding photographer, I don't need more than 22MP. And all I ever wanted that my 5D2 did not have, was better AF, better high ISO performance, a dual card slot, and better video features. The 5D3 has all of that and more. So I am not complaining. I do however, expect Canon to step it up in the next round and produce something that really WOW's us.
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Even if the D800 can produce a better picture, which my guess is that it will, It would probably only produce a better photo with a top quality lens running at f/4-f/8 at iso 400 and less and will require faster shutter speeds. For the rest of us who often shoot wide open or at iso ranges from 400+, I doubt there will be a large difference. Unfortunately large sensors have obvious downfalls from huge file sizes, slow shooting speeds and slightly reduced low light performance. I love the Mark III because it is an all around solid performer. While the D800 might best the Mark III for some purposes, namely landscapes & some studio, there is no other camera i'd prefer to tackle the variety of situations I find myself photographing.
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prestonpalmer said:
I think this is part of the problem - people think Canon could have done better, but 1/2 to 1 stop better than the 5d2 puts it on a par with the d3s, which is the raining champ of high ISO.
Do I think the 5d3 will beat it? Hmm... no. But the 1dx might be a half stop better (according to a canon rep I spoke to). People keep expecting 1-2 stops high ISO per generation but physics just isn't allowing it. Not saying you are specifically, but I don't think there's much more to be had.
Now dynamic range is another matter - shadow noise is definitely not fantastic on Canons.
All that said, as a wedding photographer myself I was sorely tempted by the 5d3 but decided on a 1dx for a number of reasons.
The 5d3 is IMO the best overall wedding camera on the market though. The d3s is the second best IMO - and only second best because of the lower resolution and it's annoying inability to produce attractive white balance. Well, presuming the 5d3 focussing turns out to be as good as everyone seems to be saying it is
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When I visit Nikon forums a find a similar mix of high praise, complaining and disappointment.
During pre Internet days we were never exposed to such a flood of wide-ranging reaction, and I do believe most forums of any kind, by nature, attract more complaining.
I don't remember, did Canon promise two, three, four more stops of speed from the new body ? That wasn't the most significant improvement I was expecting.
During my long career none of my pro cameras have ever been perfect. Many great features, a few that puzzled me and some things I was always left wishing for. The steady improvement though has had a real impact on my work. For example, look at the improvement in sports photography, wedding pictures, digital photography in National Geographic, and If you can, visit the White House to see their historic collection of images. The recent ones are extraordinary by comparison. Large, sharp, beautiful, noise-free images in very low light of our dark-skinned President.
Canon USA and CPS welcome comments and concerns, and they share them with the people in Japan who make the products.
During pre Internet days we were never exposed to such a flood of wide-ranging reaction, and I do believe most forums of any kind, by nature, attract more complaining.
I don't remember, did Canon promise two, three, four more stops of speed from the new body ? That wasn't the most significant improvement I was expecting.
During my long career none of my pro cameras have ever been perfect. Many great features, a few that puzzled me and some things I was always left wishing for. The steady improvement though has had a real impact on my work. For example, look at the improvement in sports photography, wedding pictures, digital photography in National Geographic, and If you can, visit the White House to see their historic collection of images. The recent ones are extraordinary by comparison. Large, sharp, beautiful, noise-free images in very low light of our dark-skinned President.
Canon USA and CPS welcome comments and concerns, and they share them with the people in Japan who make the products.
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First...reading the replies to this thread, I see it was predominantly not worthwhile to post Lloyd's comments. Fanboism causes blindness. A blindness Llloyd doesn't suffer from. The #1 reason I read his site. I would feel fairly safe in betting Lloyd has more photography experience than 80% of the posters here *combined*. But of course, that won't dissuade anyone here from calling him a hack and / or compare him to Ken Rockwell...since unsubstantive opinions are the norm here as well as at dpreview.
My agreement with Lloyd is simple....5d3 is a fine camera. Noise is a good news / bad news situation. The much improved AF is extremely welcomed. IQ though....pretty minor improvement from 5d2. I felt Lloyd's perspective reinforced my own experience so far....5d3=5d2n. After 3.5 years of R&D...disappointiing
Nikon has decidedly taken a different approach. Shot with a D800 today...stunning images.
Anyway...I apologize if I wasted anyone's time. Buh Bye.
My agreement with Lloyd is simple....5d3 is a fine camera. Noise is a good news / bad news situation. The much improved AF is extremely welcomed. IQ though....pretty minor improvement from 5d2. I felt Lloyd's perspective reinforced my own experience so far....5d3=5d2n. After 3.5 years of R&D...disappointiing
Nikon has decidedly taken a different approach. Shot with a D800 today...stunning images.
Anyway...I apologize if I wasted anyone's time. Buh Bye.
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Bosman said:
He's definitely in the Landscape camp more resolution is better and image quality is King.
He uses a lot of manual focus lenses I very much doubt he uses anything else but spot focus he is an expert not a newbie.
He might have been converting his Images with DPP which appears to have many problems delivering sharp images, the guy in charge at Canon must be unbelievably stupid releasing a camera without first making sure that DPP had no bugs with it.
Lightroom 4.1 RC recently released now has 5DMKIII support & is significantly better than the ACR 6.7 beta that most have been using to convert their images so its possible he might be updating his early findings at some point.
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