Locking our bodies with a code like we do our phone... ramifications?

[candyman]

I try to understand this subject.
It makes sense to lock your mobile since it contains a lot of private information - like contacts (some people store a lot of add. info with those contacts), social media, photos, email etc

Your camera.....it has a memory card with photos only. Let's say the camera get stolen. The thief will open the memory card slot and has access to the photos. A pincode does not prevent it.
A pincode that prevent the use of the camera? You think that the thief will bring it back? He may throw the camera or try to sell it for parts. But you will not get it back.
A thief knowing that stealing this kind of camera doesn't make sense because it has a pincode? Most will not know that and try to steal it anyway.

Even if you have a pincode (or fingerprint scan) it doesn't bring back camera or photos. Yes, photos...it would make sense to encrypt the storaged photos so a stranger would have difficulty to access them. But encrypt photos while they get stored on the memory card will slow down the burst speed - not something we want.

A good insurrance will help...(not bringing back your photos though)

 

[Hillsilly]

I'd find it a little annoying, but if it was an optional feature, then great.

A "find my phone" via GPS/Wi-Fi feature that can be remotely triggered even with the camera turned off would also be pretty cool. You could go and bust some bad girls.

 

[jdramirez]

I'm not concerned about the photos.... but reducing the functionality of the camera/lens to reduce its resale value if stolen.

If Canon incorporates this locking functionality across the board, thieves would have a fiduciary causation to avoid Canon gear.

If you are going to risk your freedom... you want to get the most return on your risk...

I think a stolen car has more value for the parts alone... I'm not sure you can say that about a camera body.

I try to understand this subject.
It makes sense to lock your mobile since it contains a lot of private information - like contacts (some people store a lot of add. info with those contacts), social media, photos, email etc

Your camera.....it has a memory card with photos only. Let's say the camera get stolen. The thief will open the memory card slot and has access to the photos. A pincode does not prevent it.
A pincode that prevent the use of the camera? You think that the thief will bring it back? He may throw the camera or try to sell it for parts. But you will not get it back.
A thief knowing that stealing this kind of camera doesn't make sense because it has a pincode? Most will not know that and try to steal it anyway.

Even if you have a pincode (or fingerprint scan) it doesn't bring back camera or photos. Yes, photos...it would make sense to encrypt the storaged photos so a stranger would have difficulty to access them. But encrypt photos while they get stored on the memory card will slow down the burst speed - not something we want.

A good insurrance will help...(not bringing back your photos though)

 

[crashpc]

Didn´t read whole thread, but it would be nice to have the option - you look into viewfinder, it scans your eye, and lets you store data on memory card (for next time chosen)..

 

[jdramirez]

Didn´t read whole thread, but it would be nice to have the option - you look into viewfinder, it scans your eye, and lets you store data on memory card (for next time chosen)..

I like the idea, but I think that would drive up cost.

 

[candyman]

Didn´t read whole thread, but it would be nice to have the option - you look into viewfinder, it scans your eye, and lets you store data on memory card (for next time chosen)..

Why a camera and viewfinder.....
You look with your eye...and it store a still or a video instantly in the cloud. With an eye-lens you can zoom-in and zoom-out....now THAT would be something....

 

[9VIII]

I'm not concerned about the photos.... but reducing the functionality of the camera/lens to reduce its resale value if stolen.

If Canon incorporates this locking functionality across the board, thieves would have a fiduciary causation to avoid Canon gear.

If you are going to risk your freedom... you want to get the most return on your risk...

I think a stolen car has more value for the parts alone... I'm not sure you can say that about a camera body.

I try to understand this subject.
It makes sense to lock your mobile since it contains a lot of private information - like contacts (some people store a lot of add. info with those contacts), social media, photos, email etc

Your camera.....it has a memory card with photos only. Let's say the camera get stolen. The thief will open the memory card slot and has access to the photos. A pincode does not prevent it.
A pincode that prevent the use of the camera? You think that the thief will bring it back? He may throw the camera or try to sell it for parts. But you will not get it back.
A thief knowing that stealing this kind of camera doesn't make sense because it has a pincode? Most will not know that and try to steal it anyway.

Even if you have a pincode (or fingerprint scan) it doesn't bring back camera or photos. Yes, photos...it would make sense to encrypt the storaged photos so a stranger would have difficulty to access them. But encrypt photos while they get stored on the memory card will slow down the burst speed - not something we want.

A good insurrance will help...(not bringing back your photos though)

I really doubt there's much of a black market for camera parts. That requires a population of people willing to build or repair cameras on their own, which as far as I know is pretty much limited to LensRentals.com.

 

[dgatwood]

I'm not concerned about the photos.... but reducing the functionality of the camera/lens to reduce its resale value if stolen.

If Canon incorporates this locking functionality across the board, thieves would have a fiduciary causation to avoid Canon gear.

It's a good start, but a better solution would increase your chances of getting caught. Put a cellular chip in the thing, but leave it powered down. If someone fails to unlock the camera with a fingerprint or PIN, the cellular chip immediately goes live, and every thirty seconds, sends GPS coordinates back to Canon servers until the user unlocks it correctly. To make it infeasible for criminals to disable this feature, use a self-contained microcontroller instead of the main CPU, powered by a supercapacitor deep inside the unit.

 

[jdramirez]

I love the idea... but I don't want to pay twice as much for a lens because of the infrastructure and added tech. That's why I lean towards a software issue.

I'm not concerned about the photos.... but reducing the functionality of the camera/lens to reduce its resale value if stolen.

If Canon incorporates this locking functionality across the board, thieves would have a fiduciary causation to avoid Canon gear.

It's a good start, but a better solution would increase your chances of getting caught. Put a cellular chip in the thing, but leave it powered down. If someone fails to unlock the camera with a fingerprint or PIN, the cellular chip immediately goes live, and every thirty seconds, sends GPS coordinates back to Canon servers until the user unlocks it correctly. To make it infeasible for criminals to disable this feature, use a self-contained microcontroller instead of the main CPU, powered by a supercapacitor deep inside the unit.

 

[Skulker]

How much of a problem is it?

How many cameras and lenses get stolen?

Has anyone got any data?

 

[dgatwood]

I love the idea... but I don't want to pay twice as much for a lens because of the infrastructure and added tech. That's why I lean towards a software issue.

Oh, I meant in the camera body. Chances are, if they steal the lenses, they're going to steal the body, too, and if you report the theft quickly enough, they'll all be in the same place.

You'd never be able to pull off that sort of tracking in a lens, realistically, for space reasons. To secure the lenses, I like the idea of providing an unlock code with the warranty paperwork, and programming the lenses so that they won't work with any camera until you authorize that camera by entering the unlock code. Also provide a way to reset the lens and wipe the whitelist so that store demo lenses don't come preprogrammed with a hundred authorized bodies or whatever.

Oh, and you'd have to provide a global unlock option so that the lens would still work with older cameras that don't support the security feature. Maybe ship the lens unlocked and program it so that when you first connect it to a camera, if the camera doesn't ask the lens for its lock status within the first ten seconds after asking for the protocol version, the lens sets a flag in nonvolatile storage so that it will stay unlocked until you explicitly lock it.

 

[wsmith96]

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F A T A L I T Y

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[jdramirez]

up-up-down-down-left-right-left-right-menu-play.

F A T A L I T Y

lol

I'm not sure why... but that reminds me... I want to play Milon's Secret Castle.