fullstop said:
dak723 said:
In other words, mirrorless will never be a disruption in the camera market. Both mirrorless ILCs and DSLR ILCs are the same market. They can't disrupt each other.
sure. Horse-carts and auto-mobiles are the same market. Horse cart market will never be disrupted by cars.
quite funny to read all those arguments down that line.
Mirrorslappers will be gone soon, much like the horse carts. At least in the more developed parts of the world. ;D
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Now back to my "Disruptive Technology" remarks...Canon AND Sony have recently thought long and hard about what markets need to be served and PROFITED from. Canon has IMPRESSIVE consumer lens, industrial optics and chip-making technology in addition to their superb printer/copier division while Sony has nearly undisputed leadership in Television Broadcast Video (XD-Cam) cameras, Playstation systems and still photo/video sensor production for mobile systems.
The TWO largest technologies BOTH companies have now embarked upon (i have VERY VERY detailed and up-close knowledge on this!) is the addition of large Fixed-lens and Interchangeable Lens super-smartphones that will use GLOBAL SHUTTER sensors running at 60 fps DCI 4K (4096x2160) video using 2/3rds Inch, One-Inch or APS-C sensors on said systems. BOTH Sony and Canon are ACTIVELY WORKING ON and TESTING such systems in the lab and in the field RIGHT NOW !!!
Sony xPeria phones and tablets with 1-inch and APS-C sensors are now on tap for introduction mid next year. Canon's offering will be (from my sources) a fixed lens 2/3rd inch sensor and an interchangeable lens APS-C 6.3 inch+ super smartphone! All such phones will be THICKER (between 15mm to 25mm thick) than anything currently from Samsung or Apple to allow for more battery power, longer flange distance and better ergonomics.
In FIVE YEARS, I expect these large-sensor smart-phones WILL OUTSELL every DSLR and point-and-shoot camera both companies make by VERY WIDE MARGINS !!! The future production technology war will then be fought to bring down the 15-to-25mm thickness of such large-sensor smartphones BACK DOWN to the more common 8mm to 12 mm use by most of today's bigger-selling Samsung S-series and Apple iPhones!
Big Sensors being Stuffed into Thinner Phones will be where the phone wars are fought! And the Five Biggest players will be Sony, Canon, Apple, Samsung and Xiaomi which will be tomorrow's largest FLAGSHIP PHONE makers! Canon has the edge on lens technology while Sony has the edge on Sensor tech. Apple has the Software Ease-of-Use crown so it's gonna be a MASSIVE BATTLE as to who will be ones selling 120 million+ large-sensor smartphones per year!
Which at $800 per high end phone is a GROSS INCOME of 96 BILLION U.S. DOLLARS!!! And at the average FlagShip phone market profit margin of 20%, that is 19.2 BILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR of income...NO manufacturer can afford to dismiss that sort of yearly income!
At CES 2019 (in January) you will DEFINITELY see some announcements if not outright introductions of such big-sensor super-smartphones! Who will be first? Canon, Sony, Samsung, Apple, Xiaomi? Which One has THE GUTS TO GRAB THE BIG SENSOR SMARTPHONE GLORY ??????????????