Lower Price Full Frame Camera [CR1]

[Canon Rumors]

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<strong>For Photokina?


</strong>Another mention of a new and less expensive full frame camera from Canon for Photokina. We reported this a few times before <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2012/03/mirrorless-camera-new-full-frame-coming-second-half-2012-cr2/" target="_blank">here </a>and <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/2012/04/more-full-frame-cameras-on-the-2012-horizon-cr2cr1/" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Specs mentioned include:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>21mp</li>
<li>Less weather sealing</li>
<li>lesser AF system than the 5D3</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>CRs Take


</strong>While I don’t doubt a less expensive full frame camera in Canon’s future, I think most specs currently floating around will be of the wish-list variety. I would expect the camera to have the same 22mp sensor that is found in the 5D Mark III. After that , you can start knocking off about $1500 in “features” from the 5D3 to make the new camera.</p>
<p>Source: [<a href="http://www.canonwatch.com/rumor-canon-entry-level-full-frame-camera-for-photokina/" target="_blank">CW</a>]</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>

 

[symmar22]

Sounds like a 5D2 again.....

 

[nitsujwalker]

So essentially it will be the 5d2? I'm not sure why they don't just drop the price of the 5d2.

 

[RuneL]

Excellent idea, but I'd rather have an EF-compatible mirrorless (With, god forbi, a FF sensor?)


Of topic: Why does the 5D X mockup have the top assembly from a 1D? Weird.

 

[preppyak]

So essentially it will be the 5d2? I'm not sure why they don't just drop the price of the 5d2.

They did, they dropped the MSRP from $2499 to $2199...it just happened to coincide with the time prices normally rise. That said, there have been a variety of deals where its been <$2k.

And they dropped it fairly significantly in their refurb store...with Canon Loyalty, a refurb 5D comes out to $1500ish. Can't really get any cheaper: http://shop.usa.canon.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/subCategory_10051_10051_-1_29252#

 

[kidnaper]

Excellent idea, but I'd rather have an EF-compatible mirrorless (With, god forbi, a FF sensor?)


Of topic: Why does the 5D X mockup have the top assembly from a 1D? Weird.

Because they're shooting for 1D weather sealing with the rumors, and removing the mode dial is required for that.

 

[zim]

I heard they are putting twice as much video into it to make it cheaper ;D ;D ;D ;D

 

[RuneL]

Excellent idea, but I'd rather have an EF-compatible mirrorless (With, god forbi, a FF sensor?)


Of topic: Why does the 5D X mockup have the top assembly from a 1D? Weird.

Because they're shooting for 1D weather sealing with the rumors, and removing the mode dial is required for that.

It says "less weather sealing"

 

[Britman]

Doesn't make much sense to go into production with a new camera when the 5D2 is still awesome and the factories are geared to producing it. How hard would it be to maybe drop in the AF from the 60D and keep everything else the same. With a nice little price drop.

And if the rumours of Nikon bringing out a $1500 FF camera are true Canon will need to match it on price at least.

 

[DB]

A FF body with 1DX/5D3 AF features + similar HD video for around 1600-1800 euros ($2000-2200) = death of both the 7D and 5D2!

Who would even buy a 7D mk II when for 500 bucks more they get more AF points + FF sensor???

 

[Independent]

For one thing, the 7D has built-in flash. The current FF cameras do not.

 

[cpsico]

LOL, isn't that why the 5dII is still in the line up?

 

[ugly.|.face]

Wait! Where will this rank in the 5D line up? I just spent $2,200 on a 5D2, money I don't really have. If this newer but 'cheaper' FF camera out does the 5D2, I think I will cry and then die a little bit inside!!!

Really hope that is not the case.

Anyone care to shed some light on this? Please and thank you.

 

[Mt Spokane Photography]

Nikon is rumored to be bring out a low end FF Body. It will not be pro level, but have the features of their beginner models.

The Canon equivalent would be a FF Rebel, but even that would be better than the nikon model which, without a AF motor drive, can only use the newer Nikon lenses. So if you have good but older Nikon Glass, it would be no autofocus. This really runs up the price to the buyer.

 

[traveller]

If Canon do decide to make a body like this, I think they need to change the entire concept of the camera and make it smaller and lighter than any of the current full frame models. That would be a good way of marketing it as something different from the 5D MkII.

 

[mccrum]

Wait! Where will this rank in the 5D line up? I just spent $2,200 on a 5D2, money I don't really have. If this newer but 'cheaper' FF camera out does the 5D2, I think I will cry and then die a little bit inside!!!

Really hope that is not the case.

Anyone care to shed some light on this? Please and thank you.

The only light I can shed is that you should enjoy shooting with the actual, physical camera that actually, physically exists instead of being sad that you may or may not have saved money in the future at some theoretical point that is based solely upon a website called Canon RUMORS.

By your logic, when the 5D Mark IV comes out you should be sad you'll have been shooting for three years because the 5D Mark III is now less expensive than it was. Just go out and shoot, you got a great deal on the 5D II and it's still a great camera.

 

[CanonCameraFan]

Would love to see a Rebel size FF with Digic 5 single processor (so ML compatible), 7D autofocus system and microfocus adjust for a reasonable price - round the £1k mark.

 

[wickidwombat]

maybe just a refit of the 5Dmk2 with the 19 point 7D AF or the 60D AF
plastic body?

 

[kidnaper]

Excellent idea, but I'd rather have an EF-compatible mirrorless (With, god forbi, a FF sensor?)


Of topic: Why does the 5D X mockup have the top assembly from a 1D? Weird.

Because they're shooting for 1D weather sealing with the rumors, and removing the mode dial is required for that.

It says "less weather sealing"

Right, but the 5D X took over the rumors of the high megapixel non-integrated gripped pro body. This new cheap full frame would probably not be a 5D anything but a new line.

 

[tomsop]

Can someone tell me as a potential purchaser of the t4i when and if it comes out what benefits there would be to waiting for the entry level full frame - I don't understand what the advantages/disadvantages are to having a full frame vs. cropped frame other than some depth of focus differences if all other things are pretty much equal such as MP, autofocus, ISO range - in other words if I have two cameras with similar features eccept full frame vs. crop frame which camera would I want if my interests are hobbyist level and mostly shooting family, kids and sometimes landmarks or even nature - thanks, - Tom.