Magic Lantern on the 5D Mark III

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</strong>The folks at Magic Lantern have shown the hack can be ported to the new 5D Mark III.</p>
<p>This is all very preliminary and I wouldn’t expect to see the software available for some time. Please correct me if I’m wrong.</p>
<p>Source: [<a href="http://www.eoshd.com/content/7992/canon-5d-mark-iii-hacked-magic-lantern-on-the-way?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed: EOSHD (EOSHD.com)" target="_blank">EOSHD</a>] via [<a href="http://magiclantern.wikia.com/wiki/Magic_Lantern_Firmware_Wiki" target="_blank">Magic Lantern</a>]</p>
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LanceF said:
Having no knowledge of Magic Lantern, what can I except this to offer me for someone who doesn't shoot video?

The Magic Lantern team has been primarily dedicated to video, but this does prove there are programming hooks that other developers could latch code too. Perhaps an internal intervelometer? (I could even see Magic Lantern implimenting this for time lapse videos.)

Why did the CHDK never jump ship from Powershots to EOS?
 
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<strong>It can be done!



</strong>The folks at Magic Lantern have shown the hack can be ported to the new 5D Mark III.</p>
<p>This is all very preliminary and I wouldn’t expect to see the software available for some time. Please correct me if I’m wrong.</p>
<p>Source: [<a href="http://www.eoshd.com/content/7992/canon-5d-mark-iii-hacked-magic-lantern-on-the-way?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed: EOSHD (EOSHD.com)" target="_blank">EOSHD</a>] via [<a href="http://magiclantern.wikia.com/wiki/Magic_Lantern_Firmware_Wiki" target="_blank">Magic Lantern</a>]</p>
<p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">c</span>r</strong></p>


Came here to post this, really excited.
 
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This is great, except I'm not really sure that ML can fix the really soft resolution of the 5D3.

Even though the $8K that I have saved up is probably going to the soon to be released Sony FS700 since it's far superior to anything Canon video is offering, especially for the price; I will probably donate to ML just because they are doing great things.

If Magic Lantern can 1) Increase the resolution on the video 2) offer clean HDMI out 3) Can over-crank to at least 60fps at 1080p (hopefully 120fps at 1080p since Sony has raised the bar so high at 480 fps at 1080p); then Canon might retain me as a customer, otherwise, Sony it is.

It's kind of sad that Canon video has fallen to such a low that they have to depend on a group hackers to save their dwindling customer base who are flocking to the much better alternatives offered by Sony, Black Magic and even the Nikon D800 has some huge advantages over the 5D3 like higher resolution, clean HDMI and crop modes; and that camera is $400 less. WTF Canon.

Anyways, go Magic Lantern. You guys rule.
 
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LanceF said:
Having no knowledge of Magic Lantern, what can I except this to offer me for someone who doesn't shoot video?

I've quickly had a flick through and jotted down everything that didn't look like pure video. Pretty much all of these can be enabled or disabled, and are effectively invisible when you don't want to use them. The default mode hides the lesser used stuff.

- Improved power saving features
- Flashlight (turns on the led light to the left of the jog dial)
- Shutter count
- Zebra stripes to show over or underexposed areas in live view
- Focus peaking to show in-focus areas in live view (think manual focussing fast primes)
- A 'magic zoom box' for checking focus in live view
- Crop marks or customer grids for framing in live view
- Ghost image - overlay a previously taken image in live view
- 'Defishing' previews a rectilinear image from the Samyang 8mm fisheye.
- Spotmeter - display brightness from a small spot in the centre of the liveview image
- False colour exposure aidl each brightness area is colour coded.
- Live histogram
- Waveform exposure aid, useful for checking overall brightness.
- ISO values in 1/8EV steps
- Aperture in 1.8EV steps
- Shutter in 1/8EV steps
- Adjust white balance in Kelvin
- Green-magenta white balance shift for fluorescent lights
- Blue Amber white balance shift
- Boost live view digital display gain
- HDR bracketing, up to 9 photos in 0.5 to 5EV steps
- Intervalometer for timelapse
- Bulb timer up to 480 minutes
- Use the LCD face sensor to trip the shutter
- Trip the shutter with noise (e.g. clap hands)
- Trip the shutter when exposure changes (e.g. lightning)
- Trip the shutter when the frame changes (movement)
- Silent pictures
- Weird 'slit' pictures
- Link mirror lock up with timer and remote
- Trap focus, takes a picture when subject comes into focus (MF only)
- Custom focus patterns for the focus sensors
- Rack focus
- Stack focus
- Focus distance and depth of field info
- Upsidedown mode for the display
- 'Sticky' depth of field preview button
- Shutter half press becomes 'sticky'
- Auto burst pic quality can reduce IQ to prevent buffer filling
- Display 35mm equivalent focal lengths to include the crop factor
- Review images: Compare images when reviewing photos (displays two images as one with, split diagonally through centre)
- Review images: Timelapse play - whizz through all photos taken incredibly fast)
- Review images: Fuse/overlay two exposures
- Faster zoom when reviewing images
- Quicker erasing (less button pressing).

Pretty much all of these can be enabled or disabled, and are effectively invisible when you don't want to use them. The default mode hides the lesser used stuff.
 
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colin1984 said:
i´m a little sad, it can be ported everywhere else but not on 7D :'(

... that's why I didn't get a 7d, but obviously people only find out about it some time after they got one. I am using magic lantern all the time, the focus peaking, n hdr shots, focus stacking is worth it alone, not to speak of audio remote shot, motion detect, ... but the ml running on the 5d2 and later 5d3, at least there's an upgrade path now.
 
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@the wallbanger
Why did the CHDK never jump ship from Powershots to EOS?

EOS cameras already do out the box what CDHK largely does for hamstrung compacts (that is RAW and full exposure options)

There was a CDHK version that unlocked intermediate ISO, spot metering and different AF patterns on the EOS 400D / XTi, and there was the 'russian' firmware hack that turned your 300D / Rebel into a 10D in a plastic case.

Magic Lantern have really been pushing the hacks for the recent EOS cameras, and mainly from a video perspective, although they are branching out. I use a mac and format my cards each use, so it's just a bit of a pain for me, my 7D can't be hacked, and to be honest, my 600D doesn't really need it. Had it on my 550D, but hated the GUI. Got by without it.
 
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Fyi: A magic lantern alpha will be probably out next week with limited feature set, so work is progressing successfully. And the devs are researching the possibility to overclock the 5d3 and use other codecs to get 1080p/60 or 720p/120 :-) ... though it's no way certain it'll work. But the digic5 seems to have more power to play with than the old cpu.
 
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CharlieB said:
I know they had problems with the dual processors ... there's a long explanation on the website. Maybe they've overcome things.

No, they haven't - ml doesn't run on dual-digic cameras (1dx, 7d) and all attempts to start user code have failed. But fortunately the 5d3 is single-digic only and very close to the 5d2.

EDIT: The ml alpha for 5d3 is out :-) .. http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=2602.0
 
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Just to reiterate what Marsu42's edit states. The first alpha version of ML for the 5D3 is out.

The other purpose of my posting is to say that ML is really on to some exciting stuff that is in development. They have just begun to access more encoder parameters (current release version allows the bitrate to be raised, but buffer overruns limit its current usefulness in some situations). Using development releases, I've tested recording in ALL-I on my 600D/T3i at bitrates above 150 Mb/s! The improved bitrates or less compression really helps to improve the image in post (e.g., sharpening and color correction).

There are still kinks to be worked out, but the things they are able to do are quite remarkable IMHO. There are even indications that 4:2:2 video (perhaps as MJPEG) might be possible. Alas, I think this is taking a back seat to getting all the current features working on the 5D3. Regardless, I think this bodes very well for what we'll be able to get out of the 5D3 (and all other supported cams) with ML.
 
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