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Sella174 said:
The 100D has no Kelvin WB, so no sale.

?? What a strange statement to make??
It can shoot in RAW....and that's really easy to adjust WB.

If you don't have a need or want for a 100D, just say so...but please don't hinge buying / not buying based on some buried tech spec. It just sounds like Cognative Dissonance.
I have no need or want for a 100D...I have a pair of 5DIII's and an S90 which fullfill all of my photographic needs. There is little that a 100D which my 5DIII's can't!
 
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GMCPhotographics said:
?? What a strange statement to make??
It can shoot in RAW....and that's really easy to adjust WB.

If you don't have a need or want for a 100D, just say so...but please don't hinge buying / not buying based on some buried tech spec. It just sounds like Cognative Dissonance.

Whilst I agree that I can just do RAW, maybe also consider that I do not need RAW and the additional "stuff" it entails, or that RAW does not fit into my workflow. Shooting RAW just so I can set the WB to 5600K is silly and cumbersome.

In actually fact, the 100D is a camera I would have bought (and most probably two of 'em), was it not for the fact that I shoot primarily JPEG and that due to Canon's moronic insistence on crippling straight-to-JPEG features on a camera they've labeled as "entry-level" will now add extra time-consuming steps before producing a final picture. I am not complaining about the lack of AF points or low FPS or one SD slot only or no weather-sealing or because it has a built-in flash; I am complaining about Canon intentionally not enabling in firmware a feature already available in the DiG!C processor.

OK, here's the joke ... I can tweak "pro"-grade cameras to produce in-camera JPEG's exactly the way I want them; but I must shoot RAW with "entry-level"-grade cameras to achieve the same result.
 
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Sella174 said:
GMCPhotographics said:
?? What a strange statement to make??
It can shoot in RAW....and that's really easy to adjust WB.

If you don't have a need or want for a 100D, just say so...but please don't hinge buying / not buying based on some buried tech spec. It just sounds like Cognative Dissonance.

Whilst I agree that I can just do RAW, maybe also consider that I do not need RAW and the additional "stuff" it entails, or that RAW does not fit into my workflow. Shooting RAW just so I can set the WB to 5600K is silly and cumbersome.

In actually fact, the 100D is a camera I would have bought (and most probably two of 'em), was it not for the fact that I shoot primarily JPEG and that due to Canon's moronic insistence on crippling straight-to-JPEG features on a camera they've labeled as "entry-level" will now add extra time-consuming steps before producing a final picture. I am not complaining about the lack of AF points or low FPS or one SD slot only or no weather-sealing or because it has a built-in flash; I am complaining about Canon intentionally not enabling in firmware a feature already available in the DiG!C processor.

OK, here's the joke ... I can tweak "pro"-grade cameras to produce in-camera JPEG's exactly the way I want them; but I must shoot RAW with "entry-level"-grade cameras to achieve the same result.


Not sure what you men by not having no Kelvin WB. From the manual:

"White Balance:

Settings
Auto, Preset (Daylight; Shade; Cloudy, Twilight, Sunset; Tungsten Light; White Fluorescent Light; Flash), Custom (Approx. 2,000° - 10,000°K), White Balance Correction, and White Balance Bracketing

Auto White Balance
Auto white balance with the image sensor

Color Temperature Compensation
White balance correction:

Blue/amber bias: ±9 levels
Magenta/green bias: ±9 levels
* Correction based on the current WB mode's color temperature.
Color Temperature Information Transmission
Provided"

The Custom WB setting isn't enough?
 
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Means that can't dial in kelvins manually, hardly a deal breaker if you know your way round the presets.

It's about time canon introduced a wb button, no excuse in this day and age of live view.
 
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Dantana said:
... From the manual:

"White Balance:

Settings
Auto, Preset (Daylight; Shade; Cloudy, Twilight, Sunset; Tungsten Light; White Fluorescent Light; Flash), Custom (Approx. 2,000° - 10,000°K), White Balance Correction, and White Balance Bracketing

Which manual? The one I downloaded from Canon on the release of the 100D only shows the icons for Daylight, Shade, Cloudy, Tungsten, Fluorescent, Flash and Custom ... no Twilight or Sunset.

paul13walnut5 said:
... if you know your way round the presets.

Canon has set Daylight to 5200K and Cloudy to 6000K ... I prefer 5600K (based on local conditions), so neither of the presets do the job for me.
 
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On camera flash is 'daylight' flash.

There is some arguement for setting twiligiht and sunset at this as well, the light is changing constantly so it would be impossible to have any useful preset, and the daylight preset is most likely to render the scene as you saw it, even if this isn't techncally accutate, in much the same way as the tungsten preset wouldn't be technically accurate for the light emiited from tungsten bulb with a red filter.

I can't help but think that if 400kelvins are pivotal to you then a) you probably shouldn't be using a rebel, and b) shouldn't be shooting jpeg.

I'm interested in how you know that your colour temperature is different? Do you have a colour meter? Or are you going by ACR or similar?

Here's the thing, I can't speak to the SL1, but my 600D (T3i) and M both have WB shift & bracket. This may be the solution to your particular problem.
 
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Thanks for the interest ... It's not only the Kelvin setting, but the overall effect combined with the Picture Style used (Standard @ +4/+1/+1/0). This may not produce "accurate" pictures, but it produces pictures that I like.

Anyhows, (a) I'm not using an xxxD (Rebel) camera, because I did try them a while back (1000D & 550D) and found the JPEG engine horribly deficient (compared to my 30D and I have a theory on this); and (b) I shoot JPEG because I like taking pictures and dislike post-processing (but if I did photography professionally for money, then I'd do RAW).

I have never been able to figure out that WB-shift grid-thing and no matter what, it just doesn't produce the same results as straight Kelvin WB.
 
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Singsling said:
Forget all the high tech guff for a minute...go out and buy a 100D/SL1 slap on a shorty forty, walk down the city street and shoot, shoot, shoot. Go on you know you want too....it's called fellin gooooood! Don't be shy post them here.

Is this combination good for BIF (birds in flight) or macro or landscape. Street photographer is a narrow field

Might I suggest you buy a 1Dx, 600mm II, Wimberley head, TV 2x, ... and shoot birds
 
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RGF said:
Singsling said:
Forget all the high tech guff for a minute...go out and buy a 100D/SL1 slap on a shorty forty, walk down the city street and shoot, shoot, shoot. Go on you know you want too....it's called fellin gooooood! Don't be shy post them here.

Is this combination good for BIF (birds in flight) or macro or landscape. Street photographer is a narrow field

Might I suggest you buy a 1Dx, 600mm II, Wimberley head, TV 2x, ... and shoot birds

Great point that the OP's version of "happy" is a narrow focus.

Although to be fair, the original idea is a bit more budget friendly than what you suggest. I'd love to take the advice though.

I'll stick with option C for right now, which is trying to get the most out of the gear I've got while saving up for a new rig.
 
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Dantana said:
RGF said:
Singsling said:
Forget all the high tech guff for a minute...go out and buy a 100D/SL1 slap on a shorty forty, walk down the city street and shoot, shoot, shoot. Go on you know you want too....it's called fellin gooooood! Don't be shy post them here.

Is this combination good for BIF (birds in flight) or macro or landscape. Street photographer is a narrow field

Might I suggest you buy a 1Dx, 600mm II, Wimberley head, TV 2x, ... and shoot birds

Great point that the OP's version of "happy" is a narrow focus.

Although to be fair, the original idea is a bit more budget friendly than what you suggest. I'd love to take the advice though.

I'll stick with option C for right now, which is trying to get the most out of the gear I've got while saving up for a new rig.

Agree that there is more than 1 one way to fun. And if I knew more than nothing about street photography the rig would be great. It always fun to try new things. :D
 
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