More Coverage of the Canon EOS M

[Loswr]

The lens on the G1X is really high quality, according to some reviewers it's as good as an L grade lens

Interesting, then, that Canon's technical spokesman, Chuck Westfall, characterized the performance of the G1 X's lens as being similar to the EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS lens. I haven't read reviews suggesting that lens delivers IQ equal to L-series lenses...

 

[TrumpetPower!]

The lens on the G1X is really high quality, according to some reviewers it's as good as an L grade lens

Interesting, then, that Canon's technical spokesman, Chuck Westfall, characterized the performance of the G1 X's lens as being similar to the EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS lens. I haven't read reviews suggesting that lens delivers IQ equal to L-series lenses...

The MTF curves of the two new lenses are on Canon's Web site, and they look quite encouraging. At the least, they shouldn't be any worse than the Shorty McForty -- and that's already a damned high standard for a cheap consumer lens.

Cheers,

b&

 

[bdunbar79]

If you pre-order an EOS-M today, you will get it before your April pre-ordered 1D X

 

[EchoLocation]

I was thrilled about this new system until I read that this system will never be able to have a Full Frame sensor because of the size of the EOS-M mount.
That is a huge let down for me and a total bummer. It looks like i'll either be going with a D600 and 24-70, or hopefully a FF NEX or Fuji get's announced soon and makes my bag a little lighter.

 

[wickidwombat]

oh my god I just noticed something!

canon have finaly released a centerpinch lens cap!

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EF-M-22mm-f-2-STM-Lens-Review.aspx

 

[Loswr]

... the Shorty McForty -- and that's already a damned high standard for a cheap consumer lens.

Agreed - I'm quite pleased with the IQ of the 40/2.8. I can walk around with the 70-200 II on a BR strap and the pancake lens in my pocket, then if I need wider, disconnect the body and let the white zoom lens hang from the strap, with the body + 40/2.8 held by the E1 handstrap. If I can juggle that combo and a pair of daughters, it's a winner in my book!

oh my god I just noticed something!

canon have finaly released a centerpinch lens cap!

That was the very first thing I noticed when the images hit CR the other day!

 

[kennephoto]

Wow the G1X is bigger and heavier than the eos-m, didn't realize G1X was as big as it was! Given it has extra focal length but wow well over a pound in weight! G series got beefy since I owned G9! Eos-m is still winning for me I like the idea of a 22mm f2 lens for walk around!

 

[Don Haines]

Although it seems nice to have smaller and lighter, some of those of us, particularly those with large hands, find it easier to hold full frame cameras. Myself, I find that the point-and-shoots are too small to hold properly and as a result, when I press the shutter, the camera moves. Not a problem with "real sized" Canons, Nikons, and even the Olympus 4/3 cameras.... but micro 4/3 cameras and point/shoots and PARTICULARLY I-phones can not be held steady in my hands.... the same hands that can track the space station through an 800mm lens!

I love the promise of mirrorless but until they arrive at a balanced body that I can hold properly, I'll stick to my DSLR's.

 

[TrumpetPower!]

Wow the G1X is bigger and heavier than the eos-m, didn't realize G1X was as big as it was! Given it has extra focal length but wow well over a pound in weight! G series got beefy since I owned G9! Eos-m is still winning for me I like the idea of a 22mm f2 lens for walk around!

And this, gentle readers, is why the mirrorless design is going to take over the top end of the PowerShot line. It already beats the G1X in every spec and costs the same price.

And every Rebel from here on out will be EF-M as well, of course. It's a no-brainer, really. What, you think Canon will introduce a new entry-level removable-lens camera that can't take the same lenses as their latest-and-greatest entry-level removable-lens camera?

Goodbye PowerShot G, goodbye Rebel, hello mirrorless.

(The XD won't see mirrorless for a loooooooooooooooooong time, of course....)

b&

 

[kennephoto]

Another thing I remembered was how I was never satisfied with my G9 I bet I'd feel the same with the G1X. Can't get the results I wanted as easily with a dslr. Now the eos-m isn't a dslr since no viewfinder and whatnot, but then I thought gosh I sure love taking photos with my iPhone, so maybe the eos-m will feel like an iPhone with a awesome sensor and lens options!!! I am really sold just on that notion!! I suppose I too was hoping for an AE-1 but digital but dangit this little eos-m is quickly stealing my heart!! So like trumpet said bye bye G series, never again will I be attracted to you, and same goes to the S95 and S100! I think my 50 and 40d will have a new friend!

 

[Gman]

Wow the G1X is bigger and heavier than the eos-m, didn't realize G1X was as big as it was! Given it has extra focal length but wow well over a pound in weight! G series got beefy since I owned G9! Eos-m is still winning for me I like the idea of a 22mm f2 lens for walk around!

And this, gentle readers, is why the mirrorless design is going to take over the top end of the PowerShot line. It already beats the G1X in every spec and costs the same price.

And every Rebel from here on out will be EF-M as well, of course. It's a no-brainer, really. What, you think Canon will introduce a new entry-level removable-lens camera that can't take the same lenses as their latest-and-greatest entry-level removable-lens camera?

Goodbye PowerShot G, goodbye Rebel, hello mirrorless.

(The XD won't see mirrorless for a loooooooooooooooooong time, of course....)

b&

Maybe it will take over the top end of the G type series for folks who need the extra IQ a plethora of lenses and maybe it's going to be a G1X killer but for some of us who dont want to have to carry a camera bag it doesn't fit the bill and surely wont replace the Gxx format. Not all of us want to travel with an EOS M body however small and light, plus lenses, plus a flashgun and have something that even with a pancake lens is no longer pocketable. Not only that where's the articulated screen gone?

No, I think that this will replace the G1X but not the Gxx series. The G1X was an aberration that might serve some but it's bulkier and heavier now than both the EOS M and the G12. Surely the intro of the EOS M line will mean that Cannon must have a G12 sucessor in the pipeline even if it's called G 12a or G14 that will be announced at Photokina? Anyway isn't it a bit strange that the EOS M has been announced now but not available until mid October?

I put my G11 down next to an Oly OMD EM5 the other day and the body itself is smaller than my G11 but as soon as you pop a lens on it the advantage of a compact like the G11 or G12 is lost. I just dont want to carry loads of lenses around anymore. I am hooked on having a decent zoom that fit's most of my needs and a camera with decent IQ that I can travel with despite the baggage restrictions enforced on us by most airlines.

 

[6950rpm]

In the UK, it looks like there will be 2 different kits...

EOS M + 22mm F/2 in black which also comes with the EF / EF-S adapter

or

EOS M + 18-55 (seems to be available in red, white or silver)

Both kits come boxed with the 90EX flash.

Interview with a Canon chap here at 2:12 says that "looking at the feedback so far, seeing if a viewfinder option would be worth doing"

 

[lsman38]

They all have their shortcoming.
G1X has slow AF and weak on macro (gone are the food snap on vacation)
I hope I am wrong, but
EOS M most likely will have this unbearable slow AF (big disappointment to users with expectation of DSLR), and without a internal flash(extra cost for US, and extra piece means size and weight), it won't be as easy as a P&S.

The system look very close to NEX3 (which interface takes a lot to work with. I am sure some users may find it fit but not to me as a Canon DC/DSLR user). So a NEX3 with better user interface (touch screen) and worse focus speed works? no.

 

[Daniel Flather]

Wow the G1X is bigger and heavier than the eos-m, didn't realize G1X was as big as it was! Given it has extra focal length but wow well over a pound in weight! G series got beefy since I owned G9! Eos-m is still winning for me I like the idea of a 22mm f2 lens for walk around!

And this, gentle readers, is why the mirrorless design is going to take over the top end of the PowerShot line. It already beats the G1X in every spec and costs the same price.

And every Rebel from here on out will be EF-M as well, of course. It's a no-brainer, really. What, you think Canon will introduce a new entry-level removable-lens camera that can't take the same lenses as their latest-and-greatest entry-level removable-lens camera?

Goodbye PowerShot G, goodbye Rebel, hello mirrorless.

(The XD won't see mirrorless for a loooooooooooooooooong time, of course....)

b&

Interesting, maybe rebels will be ef-m mount. Maybe the beginning of the end for ef-s has arrived?

 

[TrumpetPower!]

Interesting, maybe rebels will be ef-m mount. Maybe the beginning of the end for ef-s has arrived?

Think about it: what is there that a camera with an EF-S mount can do that one with an EF-M can't? Have an optical viewfinder. What can an EF-M mount camera do that an EF-S mount can't? Use EF-M lenses and be really small and lightweight. For the Rebel crowd, the latter is going to trump the former by a huge margin -- and, for the remainder, there's always the ##D and above (which is where you have to go to get a useable viewfinder in the first place).

Cheers,

b&

 

[hmmm]

Ok gang... all well and good... but can we move along to 70D and 7DmkII rumors now, please? 8)

 

[TrumpetPower!]

Ok gang... all well and good... but can we move along to 70D and 7DmkII rumors now, please? 8)

I hear the 70D will have a 300 megapickle 4" x 5" sensor and do 60 FPS -- and cost $250,000. The 7D, on the other hand, will be a Brownie replica and ship with four free rolls of film. And it'll be a bargain at only $8,000 with the kit coke-bottle lens.

I know, it sucks, but, hey -- what're ya gonna do?

b&

 

[moreorless]

Interesting, maybe rebels will be ef-m mount. Maybe the beginning of the end for ef-s has arrived?

Think about it: what is there that a camera with an EF-S mount can do that one with an EF-M can't? Have an optical viewfinder. What can an EF-M mount camera do that an EF-S mount can't? Use EF-M lenses and be really small and lightweight. For the Rebel crowd, the latter is going to trump the former by a huge margin -- and, for the remainder, there's always the ##D and above (which is where you have to go to get a useable viewfinder in the first place).

Cheers,

b&

That doesnt make alot of sense to me, for a an entry level SLR to use an EF-M mount you'd need to get rid of the mirror to allow for the smaller flange distance anmd then its no longer an SLR.

 

[TrumpetPower!]

Interesting, maybe rebels will be ef-m mount. Maybe the beginning of the end for ef-s has arrived?

Think about it: what is there that a camera with an EF-S mount can do that one with an EF-M can't? Have an optical viewfinder. What can an EF-M mount camera do that an EF-S mount can't? Use EF-M lenses and be really small and lightweight. For the Rebel crowd, the latter is going to trump the former by a huge margin -- and, for the remainder, there's always the ##D and above (which is where you have to go to get a useable viewfinder in the first place).

Cheers,

b&

That doesnt make alot of sense to me, for a an entry level SLR to use an EF-M mount you'd need to get rid of the mirror to allow for the smaller flange distance anmd then its no longer an SLR.

Exactly. There won't be any more entry-level DSLRs, just entry-level interchangeable-lens cameras, and those will be EOS-M. No more PowerShot G, no more Rebels, just EOS-M. There'll be a top-of-the-line EOS-M model, and then the next step up will be the 70D (or whatever).

Cheers,

b&

 

[Gman]

What really gets me is that they have waved the carrot under our nose so that those of us have decided that we have given up waiting for the next Gxx whatever that might be or not as the case may be but we still cant get our hands on one for three months!
When Apple eventually releases something you can bet that stacks of it will be waiting in the shops ready to be snapped up by all those who have been salivating over the rumours.
Here we have the rumour made real but we still cant get our hands on one. What's the point? Is it to hold onto Canon customers while Canon get their darned factory moving and not move over to what's already available from the likes of Sony and Olympus?