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<strong>The year of the lens?

</strong>We mentioned previously Canon may have a “record year” for lens announcements in 2012. Below are more suggestions and info about new lenses.</p>
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<p><strong>EF 35 f/1.4L II</strong>

Suggested announcement in April/May 2012. Expect the cost to be high.</p>
<p><strong>EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS

</strong><strong>300 f/4L IS

400 f/4L IS

</strong>Suggested announcement in the fall. Perhaps showing for Photokina? A replacement to the EF 400 f/5.6 could realistically come in the shape of a new, and much better EF 100-400L IS. A 400 f/4L IS could fit nicely between the 100-400 and 200-400 (which is going to be very expensive). The built in teleconverter on the 200-400 is going to be a big feature to a lot of photographers and will help justify the cost. I don’t think the 300 f/4L IS needs replacement, but it may be a matter of easy manufacturing to do a 300 and 400 at the same time.</p>
<p><strong>EF135 f/1.8 IS

</strong>It was suggested that this lens exists, but has been “shelved” for the time being. This seems odd considering the new <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/ef2470f28lii" class="pretty-link-keyword">EF 24-70 f/2.8L II</a> didn’t get IS.</p>
<p><strong>2013

</strong>The new lens madness may continue into 2013.</p>
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#5
One thing is for sure: Canon rumors are quantum leap better then Canon launches. Big LOL. ;D
Btw the lines, rumors don't materialize so often, as much as I wish.

The 35/1.4 II is on the top of my list for some time.
The 24-70 screwed with its price and lack of IS. Waitting for a big rebate, lower the price or 24-70 I or III. Not mentioning that I was expecting a larger focal distance; let's say 24-80.

The marketing man at Canon is completly dumb. Their strategy is more of keeping what they have, not evolving, not stilling market from Nikon, not to impress their loial customers. C'mon grandma! Nikon can do it, U don't ?

Let's look at their prime lenses lineup. I want to buy:
The 24 II exists and is very good. I'll buy it.
The 35 is god but not stellar compared to the 35/2.0 so it doesn't make much sense the L. The II is iminent.
The 50/1.4 it's lack of real USM and after 3 lenses tested the focus is little eratic and at f2.0 it's not that good. The Nikon counterpart is at least 1 step better.
The 50/1.2 is a big disappointment. The close focusing error; until f2.0 it's not up to an L. Sigma knows!
The 85/1.2 II - focusing speed and I said it all. The Nikon and Sigma are in a way better investments.
The 85/1.8 it's ok but not that good wide open.
The 135. We all are expecting IS on this as much as on every tele lens.
 
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I don’t think the 300 f/4L IS needs replacement
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i really hope it'll have one, this lens is a great one but almost 15 years old ! i'm waiting for it :o

i would be ready to pay twice the actual price for a new IS, better optical formula and weather sealed lens without a doubt !

But if it's the 400 f/5.6 which is updated in same way, i would be OK too ! This is a great lens but a 20 years old one...

I think we're a lot of "wildlife photographers" who can't afford the big L lenses but under 2500 $ or € many of us are ready to buy great updated lenses like the 300 f/4 or 400 f/5.6.
 
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kpk1 said:
One thing is for sure: Canon rumors are quantum leap better then Canon launches. Big LOL. ;D
Btw the lines, rumors don't materialize so often, as much as I wish.

The 35/1.4 II is on the top of my list for some time.
The 24-70 screwed with its price and lack of IS. Waitting for a big rebate, lower the price or 24-70 I or III. Not mentioning that I was expecting a larger focal distance; let's say 24-80.

The marketing man at Canon is completly dumb. Their strategy is more of keeping what they have, not evolving, not stilling market from Nikon, not to impress their loial customers. C'mon grandma! Nikon can do it, U don't ?

Let's look at their prime lenses lineup. I want to buy:
The 24 II exists and is very good. I'll buy it.
The 35 is god but not stellar compared to the 35/2.0 so it doesn't make much sense the L. The II is iminent.
The 50/1.4 it's lack of real USM and after 3 lenses tested the focus is little eratic and at f2.0 it's not that good. The Nikon counterpart is at least 1 step better.
The 50/1.2 is a big disappointment. The close focusing error; until f2.0 it's not up to an L. Sigma knows!
The 85/1.2 II - focusing speed and I said it all. The Nikon and Sigma are in a way better investments.
The 85/1.8 it's ok but not that good wide open.
The 135. We all are expecting IS on this as much as on every tele lens.
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I agree you hit the nail on the head right there with those points! The only thing is I'm not overly fussed with no IS on the new 24-70/2.8 II but I know some people are really upset with that.

The new 35/1.4 II is definitely imminent. The current one - the bokeh is really busy and that's to do in part by the non-rounded aperture blades. When you've got L primes with 8 non-rounded blades, and zooms out there now with 9 rounded blades - you know the primes will soon get an upgrade. ;) The 24/1.4, 50/1.2 and 85/1.2 L lenses all have 8 rounded blades. The 35/1.4 doesn't have rounded aperture blades. Pick the odd one out that's due for an upgrade. I'll grab the mark II version.

The 135/2.0 also doesn't have rounded blades. This is another lens that's really due for that aperture blade upgrade. If they bolt IS onto it, then it's a guaranteed purchase for me. That'll be my street shooting tour de force! They had better keep it black though!! White lenses stand out like the proverbials on the street.

The 50/1.2. Yeah I've heard that about that lens, which is why I've steered clear of it. Must look at that Sigma again :)

The Canon 50/1.4. Great image quality but horrible horrible lens in all other respects. Do not buy! You could sit there for days with that thing hunting for focus with the centre AF point. Really disappointing lens. If only they'd put the 85/1.8's AF into it, it'd be sooo much better.

85/1.8. Owned that one as well. Awesome AF speeds, but CA CA CA! Soft wide as well, but the CA got me to upgrade to the 85/1.2.... which still has big CA but not as bad.


The new 35/1.4L and 135L will come.

What needs to come before any of those is a decent wide zoom! I'm hoping that Canon will bring out at least one of these three awesome wide-angle zooms this year:

14-24/2.8L (no filter thread)
16-40/4L
16-35/2.8LIII.

I want the 16-35/2.8L III but really I'm so desperate for a decent wide zoom I'll probably get whatever they release first. It'll finally be a lens with decent corner sharpness! Canon have proven with the 8-15/4 fisheye and new 24-70/2.8II that they can engineer wide zooms with decent corners.

Another lens they should update is the 24-105/4. I've gone to f/2.8 zooms, but that lens is still popular and Nikon have a 24-120/4 which I am envious of for travel. Pair that up with a couple of fast primes and you've got a pretty decent travel kit.
 
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#8
The 400 f4 IS sounds exciting alright. It will obviously be longer and a little heavier than the DO for around the same price tag. Will the 400 DO be discontinued?
I think a 400 5.6L IS would appeal more to the masses, pricewise.
 
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I guess I think a little differently, all of these lenses make sense to me. There is now a huge price gap between lenses. The 300 f/4 and 400 f/4 could help fill that gap while clearly differentiating the lenses. I can see a 400 f/2.8 at ~$11.5k, 400 f/4 at $3.5-5k and a 400 f/5.6 at $1-1.5k. Then throw the 100-400 f4-5.6 in there at ~$2.8k and you have well differentiated lenses at every price point.

I'd be very tempted by a 400 f/4, depending on the optics and price point. I'd be even more tempted by a 500 mm f/5.6. :)
 
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I want the EF 135 f/1.8L IS right away please! If the IQ is as good as the 135 f/2L then I'm sold already!

IS makes more sense in a longer prime. I don't get it in the 24 and 28 slow f/2.8 primes.. I just don't get those at all.
 
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I do hope it's the year of the lens (My wallet however disagrees...)

35 f/1.4L II
I would be interested as I do not have a current 35mm. However, everyone reports the existing one as being very good. Appart from weather resistance and the use of newer coatings Canon could improve the edge and corner performance (according to photozone.de). I have seen rumors about this lens since 2008 though...
Now that price comments...

EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS
It has been discussed before. Nothing to add. I agree of course, although I have a fine current 100-400 that I will keep.

EF300 f/4L IS
Actually it has to be 300 f/4L IS II. There is already an IS version.

This is very welcome considering the need to have a top quality weather resistant lens with IS. It is reported that the non-IS version has better optical quality than the current IS version (Just like 70-200 f/2.8L vs. the 1st version 70-200 f/2.8L IS). I do not have an opinion of the IS version but I am crazy about my non-IS 300mm L lens.

EF400 f/4L IS
Actually I was hoping for an update of the 400 f/4 DO lens. I realize though that in that case a possible second version -assuming that an improvement in optical quality is possible - would cost as much as the 500mm f/4L IS II (~10000 dollars, euros, whatever :( )

So this (L version) will be more than welcome I guess.

Where is our 400mm f/5.6L IS though ? ? ?

EF135 f/1.8 IS
IS would be a real gift. However I like my EF135 L lens so much that it would be difficult to upgrade considering the price. But still...
 
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I wish Canon would focus more on the most popular lenses. The 50mm f/1.4 is only OK at best and is REALLY old. This is a bread & butter lens, along with the 85mm f/1.8, and really these should be top priority. A stellar 50mm & 85mm would make someone consider switching brands. Canon does not have great quality in the non L wider angle primes either (20-35mm range). The newly announced primes with IS are too expensive and cheap looking for a non L leaving a void. There is no excuse for not having a stellar non-L prime lineup with 24-35mm, 50mm, and 85mm. Nikon has brought out a new 50mm & 85mm too.
 
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neuroanatomist said:
Canon Rumors said:
The year of the lens?
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Hmmm...a look at the wayback machine reveals a late-2010 pronouncement that, "2011 will be the year of the lens." Clearly, it wasn't. But, hope springs eternal...
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Well, 2012 is the EOS 25th Anniversary, so it would make sense for Canon to make a big deal about it with a bunch of new bodies and lenses.

tron said:
I do hope it's the year of the lens (My wallet however disagrees...)

EF300 f/4L IS
Actually it has to be 300 f/4L IS II. There is already an IS version.

This is very welcome considering the need to have a top quality weather resistant lens with IS. It is reported that the non-IS version has better optical quality than the current IS version (Just like 70-200 f/2.8L vs. the 1st version 70-200 f/2.8L IS). I do not have an opinion of the IS version but I am crazy about my non-IS 300mm L lens.

EF400 f/4L IS
Actually I was hoping for an update of the 400 f/4 DO lens. I realize though that in that case a possible second version -assuming that an improvement in optical quality is possible - would cost as much as the 500mm f/4L IS II (~10000 dollars, euros, whatever :( )

So this (L version) will be more than welcome I guess.

Where is our 400mm f/5.6L IS though ? ? ?
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Perhaps the EF 400mm f/4 IS would be the replacement for both the 400mm f/4 DO and the 400mm f/5.6L? I'd love to get the 400mm f/2.8L IS II, but it would break both the bank and my back! :P

In any case, I hope they keep the built-in hood for the 300mm f/4 IS and 400mm f/5.6 replacements. It was (and still is) a great idea, and is so convenient.
 
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dswatson83 said:
I wish Canon would focus more on the most popular lenses. The 50mm f/1.4 is only OK at best and is REALLY old. This is a bread & butter lens, along with the 85mm f/1.8, and really these should be top priority. A stellar 50mm & 85mm would make someone consider switching brands. Canon does not have great quality in the non L wider angle primes either (20-35mm range). The newly announced primes with IS are too expensive and cheap looking for a non L leaving a void. There is no excuse for not having a stellar non-L prime lineup with 24-35mm, 50mm, and 85mm. Nikon has brought out a new 50mm & 85mm too.
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I agree that they should focus on a 50 1.4 replacement but the 85 1.8 is a pretty solid lens - much better than the 50 1.4, IMO.
 
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DJL329 said:
Perhaps the EF 400mm f/4 IS would be the replacement for both the 400mm f/4 DO and the 400mm f/5.6L? I'd love to get the 400mm f/2.8L IS II, but it would break both the bank and my back!
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I can't see a 400/4L IS as a replacement for the 400/5.6L...the 400/4L might not break your back, but it would likely put a big strain on your bank. Consider - 400mm/5.6 = 71mm aperture (similar to 300/4, 200/2.8, etc.), whereas 400mm/4 = 100mm aperture, which is much closer to 300/2.8 = 107mm. Accordingly, I'd expect a 400/4L IS to be closer to the 300/2.8 II in size and cost, perhaps a little less for both, say 4.5 lbs and $5800.
 
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neuroanatomist said:
DJL329 said:
Perhaps the EF 400mm f/4 IS would be the replacement for both the 400mm f/4 DO and the 400mm f/5.6L? I'd love to get the 400mm f/2.8L IS II, but it would break both the bank and my back!
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I can't see a 400/4L IS as a replacement for the 400/5.6L...the 400/4L might not break your back, but it would likely put a big strain on your bank. Consider - 400mm/5.6 = 71mm aperture (similar to 300/4, 200/2.8, etc.), whereas 400mm/4 = 100mm aperture, which is much closer to 300/2.8 = 107mm. Accordingly, I'd expect a 400/4L IS to be closer to the 300/2.8 II in size and cost, perhaps a little less for both, say 4.5 lbs and $5800.
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Oh, sure and the next thing you're gonna tell me is that I won't be able to fold it up and stick it in my back pocket! ::)

Why do you have to ruin my dreams? And so quickly?!? ;D Oh, well, that's what I get for not doing the math...
 
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