NAB 2015: Cinema EOS C500 Mark II Confirmed

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We’ve been told for a while now that we’d be seeing a 4K Cinema EOS C300 Mark II at NAB 2015 in Las Vegas this coming April. We can now also confirm we’ll also get to see a new Cinema EOS C500 Mark II at the show.</p>
<p>We weren’t told any specifications for the Cinema EOS C500 Mark II.</p>
<p><em>More to come…</em></p>
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HurtinMinorKey said:
If it has the same sensor as the old cinema line it will be dead on arrival...again.

The comment stream (drip?) here shows the problem that all the manufacturers are having at this price point. The C500 can either go down in price and with a minor bump in features (likely), or it can go compete with Red and Alexa, but I don't really see that as Canon's market, we'd be more likely to see a new model at the top of the line if they want to be in the business of selling a couple thousand cameras a year.

It's hard to imagine Canon has a sensor ready that will have DR that is competitive with the higher end players...if they did, they would have shown their hand with one of the DSLR's they've announced (sony is killing them in that space so if they had 14 stops, they'd have put it in the 5ds). A new C500 will probably have improved processing, maybe dual pixel...Cfast and an improved set of internal codecs. Usability has been canon's ace in the hole, and it was one of the prime reasons the C500 never took off, essentially it was a C300 that required an external recorder to get anything more out of it, losing the grip and handholdability in the process. I think the fact that they are updating all three cameras in one quarter is telling. This is going to be a smaller bump rather than a larger one.
 
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For now no one is offering a "New" sensor. The Alexa Mini uses the same sensor that the Alexa uses (and the Alexa 65 X 3), Blackmagic URSA uses the same CMOSIS sensor their previous 4K camera had which is also in the AJA Cion, Red Dragon has a newish sensor and they are rumored to have a new one on the way. Sony F5, F55 & FS7 all use similar sensors so that leaves Panasonic 4K varicam as arguably the new kid on the block.

Unless Canon go open gate the world will yawn.
 
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One area Canon can win is price. The Alexa Mini is Euro 32.5K body only, Viewfinder (Same as Amira) adds Euro 6K, Raw license (yes that right) another Euro 3K, want to go 4:3 for anamorphic that will be another license for Euro 3K all totalling Euro 44.5K. Oh and fully camera control is via the WDS which will set you back a further Euro 6K Arri certainly know how to skin their clients alive. Arri are over-pricing themselves on a sensor thats 3.2K

How many C500 MKII will that get you?
 
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