New Canon Speedlites and ST-E3!
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I have written a very detailed review on the 600EX-RT, it includes some tips for setups and I shot a variety of different events to cover as many people as possible who would be interested in the new system.
Overall I am very impressed with the new system and glad to see that high-speed sync works like a charm.
http://markwebbphoto.com/blog/2012/6/canon-600ex-rt-review
Overall I am very impressed with the new system and glad to see that high-speed sync works like a charm.
http://markwebbphoto.com/blog/2012/6/canon-600ex-rt-review
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Concerning the limitations of the 600rt and 5d2: I read Canon's manual p.51 and don't quite understand it :-o ... Canon says the the x-sync drop of 1 stop and non-working hss is *only* for radio remote operation, *not* for optical remote?MarkWebbPhoto said:
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Despite the many warnings that the maximum sync speed will be 1-stop lower and that radio-transmitter shooting will be disabled, I have only run into one limitation so far with my 5D MK II and my 1D MK IV.
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You're saying you find that the x-sync actually works at *full* speed with the 5d2/600rt combination despite what Canon says (and the flash giving the <!Tv> warning) ?!?
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My friend Marcus was one of the first folks I know in my area to get the 5D MK III so I wanted to test to see if HSS had changed any. In our findings the 5D2 was just as good as the 5D3. Nothing gained or lost between the bodies except a few menu options and maybe something else I am missing.
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And in addition to the above, you're saying that hss works with the 5d2/600rt combination on radio remote even if Canon says the exact opposite?!? Sorry if I mis-read your review, but I really want to be clear about this.
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Yes, as verified by Syl Arena who was the only photog to get pre-release versions of the flash as far as I know, hss works with the 5DMKII at all shutter speeds. He says this again in his Canon Professional Network article on the flash. I've also verified it with my 5DMKII. On the 1-stop loss there also, while I haven't done extensive testing, I haven't noticed any problems.
Presumably Canon is being conservative, and it doesn't work with all prior camera bodies, but I haven't heard of any tests with anything other than a 5DMKII.
Presumably Canon is being conservative, and it doesn't work with all prior camera bodies, but I haven't heard of any tests with anything other than a 5DMKII.
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Thanks - one more reason for me to save the money and get "just" a 5d2 now. Btw: the article says it works even on the 60d just fine: http://pixsylated.com/blog/canon-600ex-rt-first-impressions/FunPhotons said:
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Surprisingly enough the ST E3 and the 600EX RT also work with both the T3i & the recently announced T4i ,also the 600's do have AF assist beams and they will exchange data back and forth with the body, and Canon Technical support Has told me told me that there is away of running IR/Radio at the same time because i specifically talked about running my MT 24 EX optically and then without time to de rig shooting optically with my 600 EX RT's.
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Infrared_Fred said:
Unfortunately, there definitely is _no_way_ to use the 600rt optical and radio remote _at_the_same_time_, I guess it would be possible technically, but the flash firmware simply isn't build this way. I guess Canon wants to sell new rt units and maybe the upcoming rt receivers by blocking a mixed legacy path.
But you can simply cycle through the various master/slave/hotshoe modes with the new remote button on the left side, so maybe that's what Canon told you about quickly switching modes.
Btw, the other way around is also possible - you can set a cf to disable all rt or ir functionality if you only have the respective remote equipment to avoid confusion.
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Mixed mode would have one drawback: you need time to account for all the preflashing going on.
Getting rid of the morse from the controller allows for those two additional groups, combining both modes would likely come with a mess of use cases not unlike the compatibility charts for F-mount.
Now putting the ST-E3 on top of a TTl-passthrough trigger not only gives the legacy flashes something to do but also doubles as the missing individual/manual group.
Getting rid of the morse from the controller allows for those two additional groups, combining both modes would likely come with a mess of use cases not unlike the compatibility charts for F-mount.
Now putting the ST-E3 on top of a TTl-passthrough trigger not only gives the legacy flashes something to do but also doubles as the missing individual/manual group.
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Marsu42 said:
Well you can use RF and optical only flashes simultaneously, Syl Arena spelled this out on his CPM article. What you do is put the flashes in manual mode to disable any ETTL pre flash, then use a dumb optical slave trigger on your older slaves.
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I finally purchased a pair of 600EX-RT & one ST-E3 RT.
Moved from Phottix Odin, I must say that I'm somewhat a bit disappointed.
1. Lack of 2nd curtain sync.
My Phottix Odin can do this on any EX series flash. Why the hell ST-E3 RT can't even do this?
2. Lack of slave zoom control from ST-E3 RT.
Again, it is a feature that Phottix Odin can do.
3. Lack of USB port for potential firmware upgrade.
Look at Phottix Odin, they have numbers of improvements from their firmware upgrades.
Seriously if Canon can somehow implement a firmware upgrade on the ST-E3 RT & 600EX-RT to add those 2 above features (2nd curtain sync & slave zoom control), I'll gladly ditch my Phottix Odin completely & go for Canon.
Though, I'm glad I still have my Phottix Odin system. In the mean time, I'll continue keep using my Phottix Odin with 600EX-RT.
Moved from Phottix Odin, I must say that I'm somewhat a bit disappointed.
1. Lack of 2nd curtain sync.
My Phottix Odin can do this on any EX series flash. Why the hell ST-E3 RT can't even do this?
2. Lack of slave zoom control from ST-E3 RT.
Again, it is a feature that Phottix Odin can do.
3. Lack of USB port for potential firmware upgrade.
Look at Phottix Odin, they have numbers of improvements from their firmware upgrades.
Seriously if Canon can somehow implement a firmware upgrade on the ST-E3 RT & 600EX-RT to add those 2 above features (2nd curtain sync & slave zoom control), I'll gladly ditch my Phottix Odin completely & go for Canon.
Though, I'm glad I still have my Phottix Odin system. In the mean time, I'll continue keep using my Phottix Odin with 600EX-RT.
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privatebydesign said:RMC33 said:Haha, touché. Page 276! But I misunderstood you, I thought it meant you could use multiple flashes in second curtain sync, only the cabled flash can and any others have to be triggered via optical, the Odin offers full multi flash radio second curtain sync. Though I have still never found a use for it personally.privatebydesign said:
Very glad you got the book and obviously read it
Read it in a book you recommended to me=).
Yup! It sucks you can do it wireless but I should have been a bit more clear.
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read through the thread and searched other sites. Is there a way to use the ST-E3 and trigger the flash with the Sekonic L-478-DR?
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