NEW - Sony FF mirrorless cameras + new lenses to support

[Dylan777]

WOW....This is the moment I been waiting for : : :

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/

If the body is same or slightly bigger than RX1, I'M ALL IN.

My wish list:
1. A7 or A7R?
2. 55mm f1.8
3. 14,16 or 17mm
4. 85mm

Will sell some of my Canon gear to get the list above ??? : ;D ;D

Anyone?

Edit: I want one NOW

After reading the specs, my final answer is A7 + 50mm f1.8. I ordered it last night, 20mins after the announcement. I'm not sure where I'm standing in the pre-order line.

 

[Fleetie]

Thanks, guys (for the retail prices).

 

[Rienzphotoz]

WOW....This is the moment I been waiting for : : :

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/

If the body is same or slightly bigger than RX1, I'M ALL IN.

My wish list:
1. A7 or A7R?
2. 55mm f1.8
3. 14,16 or 17mm
4. 85mm

Will sell some of my Canon gear to get the list above ??? : ;D ;D

Anyone?

Edit: I want one NOW

After reading the specs, my final answer is A7 + 50mm f1.8. I ordered it last night, 20mins after the announcement. I'm not sure where I'm standing in the pre-order line.

Congratulations! ... once you get this very interesting Sony camera/lens, I look forward to your feedback.

 

[RLPhoto]

I saw the camera stores video on the a7. It was very interesting about using the met abodes adapter for all my EF glass but when he mentioned the sync speed of 1/160th.... it was a deal breaker.

 

[Dylan777]

I saw the camera stores video on the a7. It was very interesting about using the met abodes adapter for all my EF glass but when he mentioned the sync speed of 1/160th.... it was a deal breaker.

Putting an adapter + L lens on A7 would kill the primary purpose of mirrorless. I will never understand that approach - same thing for EOS-M with L lenses. I rather shoot with my 5D III + L lenses if that is the case.

Sorry, that just me RLPhoto I don't want to open another debate... ;D

 

[Dylan777]

WOW....This is the moment I been waiting for : : :

http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/

If the body is same or slightly bigger than RX1, I'M ALL IN.

My wish list:
1. A7 or A7R?
2. 55mm f1.8
3. 14,16 or 17mm
4. 85mm

Will sell some of my Canon gear to get the list above ??? : ;D ;D

Anyone?

Edit: I want one NOW

After reading the specs, my final answer is A7 + 50mm f1.8. I ordered it last night, 20mins after the announcement. I'm not sure where I'm standing in the pre-order line.

Congratulations! ... once you get this very interesting Sony camera/lens, I look forward to your feedback.

Will do Rienzphotoz

I'm still having too much fun with Fuji X100s...

 

[Dylan777]

just pre ordered the a7 and the crappy kit lens. I'll probably get some cheap vintage MF fast glass to play with it until I figure out the exact lenses I want.
I'm very excited about this bad boy!

Congrats EchoLocation

I have A7 + Zeiss 50mm f1.8 on pre-order. Hope Sony/Zeiss will release some UWA primes soon.

 

[RLPhoto]

I saw the camera stores video on the a7. It was very interesting about using the met abodes adapter for all my EF glass but when he mentioned the sync speed of 1/160th.... it was a deal breaker.

Putting an adapter + L lens on A7 would kill the primary purpose of mirrorless. I will never understand that approach - same thing for EOS-M with L lenses. I rather shoot with my 5D III + L lenses.

Sorry, that just me RLPhoto I really don't want to open another debate... ;D

Primes are small and I have them, why not?

 

[Dylan777]

I saw the camera stores video on the a7. It was very interesting about using the met abodes adapter for all my EF glass but when he mentioned the sync speed of 1/160th.... it was a deal breaker.

Putting an adapter + L lens on A7 would kill the primary purpose of mirrorless. I will never understand that approach - same thing for EOS-M with L lenses. I rather shoot with my 5D III + L lenses.

Sorry, that just me RLPhoto I don't want to open another debate... ;D

Primes are small and I have them, why not?

I don't own all Canon L lenses, but I do own some: 50L, 85L II and 135L these are not "Primes are small" on A7. Unless you talking about 3rd party prime lenses.

 

[RLPhoto]

I saw the camera stores video on the a7. It was very interesting about using the met abodes adapter for all my EF glass but when he mentioned the sync speed of 1/160th.... it was a deal breaker.

Putting an adapter + L lens on A7 would kill the primary purpose of mirrorless. I will never understand that approach - same thing for EOS-M with L lenses. I rather shoot with my 5D III + L lenses.

Sorry, that just me RLPhoto I don't want to open another debate... ;D

Primes are small and I have them, why not?

I don't own all Canon L lenses, but I do own some: 50L, 85L II and 135L these are not "Primes are small" on A7. Unless you talking about 3rd party prime lenses.

There not as small as my vintage Zuiko primes but they are small to me.

 

[sdsr]

Having used the EM5 for a year, I find that I intensely dislike mirrorless cameras for 2 reasons: (i) EVF (color and brightness never the same as OVF, no matter how fast and high resolving they are) (ii) poor handling, difficult to grip. Since Canon has demonstrated what they can achieve with weight reduction in the 100D, I am hopeful they can produce low weight DSLRs bodies in future.

Have you seen the EVF of the new EM1 (same as the new Olympus EVF you can buy separately)? Apparently it's the same as the EVF in the Sony (a result of their new collaboration, presumably; I hope Olympus's IBIS is in these new Sonys too). It's rather different from the EM5's - bigger (still 100% coverage), greater magnification (second only to the Canon 1Dx, apparently), more accurate colors, brighter. Still not quite OVF, but getting closer, plus it still has all the advantages that EVFs have over OVFs in terms of letting you see exactly what you're doing as you adjust controls. You might be pleasantly surprised (or not, of course...).

 

[Rienzphotoz]

Sony A7 Series Full-Frame Mirrorless Cameras are here!

 

[Apop]

looking forward to reviews from canon users using a adapter!

To me it looks pretty tempting, a small light package with a high res filterless sensor, imagine using a 70-200 2.8 or 300 2.8 , but then back to a relatively small sony 35 2.8 when you want.

 

[Rienzphotoz]

looking forward to reviews from canon users using a adapter!

To me it looks pretty tempting, a small light package with a high res filterless sensor, imagine using a 70-200 2.8 or 300 2.8 , but then back to a relatively small sony 35 2.8 when you want.

+1 ... it is very tempting indeed ... I'll wait till other CR members (like Dylan) get it and give us some feed back ... but the only question mark for me is the relatively large lens sizes (compared to the small form factor of the a7 bodies). I still wonder what prevents Canon/Nikon from coming out with a competent FF mirrorless camera. I think even if Sigma were to bring in a competent full frame mirrorless camera, they'd have a great chance of being a success (especially with their excellent pricing strategy and ample amount of lenses) and even if they fail, Sigma won't have too much to lose, (unlike the big boys e.g. Sony).

 

[AvTvM]

and even if they fail, Sigma won't have too much to lose, (unlike the big boys e.g. Sony).

Sony's got nothing to loose either. That's why they did bring the A7/R ... at unbelievably low prices. Imaging, how much CaNikon would charge for those babies? I bet it`d be north of 4000 USD/€ for a 36 MP sensor MILC and "only" 3500 for the 24 MP version.

 

[Rienzphotoz]

and even if they fail, Sigma won't have too much to lose, (unlike the big boys e.g. Sony).

Sony's got nothing to loose either. That's why they did bring the A7/R ... at unbelievably low prices. Imaging, how much CaNikon would charge for those babies? I bet it`d be north of 4000 USD/€ for a 36 MP sensor MILC and "only" 3500 for the 24 MP version.

I think Sony has a lot to lose if this product line does not get the kinda sales results they are looking for ... with Sony's reputation for dropping products mid way without any support for the customers who bought them, it won't augment well for them ... especially with their ongoing loses in their consumer electronic business. Whereas for Sigma I don't think anyone even cares if they don't sell well ... just like their flop show SD15 & SD1 Merrill DSLR cameras.

 

[wickidwombat]

I saw the camera stores video on the a7. It was very interesting about using the met abodes adapter for all my EF glass but when he mentioned the sync speed of 1/160th.... it was a deal breaker.

Putting an adapter + L lens on A7 would kill the primary purpose of mirrorless. I will never understand that approach - same thing for EOS-M with L lenses. I rather shoot with my 5D III + L lenses if that is the case.

Sorry, that just me RLPhoto I don't want to open another debate... ;D

for me its having a second body with me that takes up very little space to travel with
for example i might have my 5d3 with 16-35 on a tripod and shooting with the eos m and its 22mm or even the sigma 85 and adapter i can have a second body to take other shots and i can still use what ever other glass i have with the adapter

for me this sony with the 55mm looks really good maybe i would have the 16-35 on it more of the time and keep the 85 or 135 on the 5d3

I'm really looking forward to seeing reviews of this and the 55mm although i am holdin some hope zeiss make a AF version of the 55 1.4 for the sony i think it would be an amazing combo

 

[tnargs]

It would be interesting to know, of those here who are saying they would buy the new Sony....
[1] Would it be a supplementary camera, or your main camera?
[2] If it would be your main camera, what system would you be moving from? FF DSLR? APS_C DSLR? Smaller mirrorless?

1) a mirrorless FF-sensor system camera like the Sony A7/R will be my only camera (other than smartphone)
2) Currently Canon 7D + all good EF-S lenses and a few good EF-lenses and a few speedlites. Will definitely have been my last DSLR system and my last APS-C camera.

That is almost exactly my kit too.

For my photography as amateur/enthusiast I need only one camera system at a time and I don't want to buy, own, store, insure, carry, learn and use more than one camera system in parallel.

ditto - we have some things in common, it seems!

Looking for a small light photographically fully capable FF-sensored mirrorless camera and a small set of "AF-only" lenses. [no manual focus ring, no manual focus gear, no distance window, but weathersealed @ IP67].

It certainly is a nice ideal, one I have thought a lot about.

Ideally a 24-70/85 f/4.0 IS for street/city/events/general purpose/walkaround, a 20mm/4.0 pancake mainly for landscape/city/architecture, a minimalist pancake 40mm/2.0 for street/people @normal angle, a 85/2.0 pancake for studio/portraits/concerts and a very compact and light tele lens for travel, say a 200mm/4.0 plus 1.4x teleconverter. Plus wireless ETTL flash trigger built into camera and 2 slave speedlites. Entire system for less than the price of a Leica M240 with 50/2.0. That's it.

;-) indeed! But AFAIK pancakes are inherently lesser optically than a 'standard sized' prime, so I have gone off the pancake idea for now. Why get the big sensor and then add a lens that has more blur units? The Zeiss 35f2.8 that came out with the A7 weighs about 120g, nice.

If I had to buy tomorrow, it would be the A7R (preferred) or A7 ... depending on AF performance ... plus 24-70/4 plus EF-adapter.

For me, right now, I'm starting to think the m43 or APS mirrorless is the right answer. I'm starting to think that, for any given budget, the better lens kit I could buy with a smaller sensor outweighs any theoretical advantage in IQ -- which will largely evaporate without a tripod anyway. And I'm not at all sure *just how much* weight and bag space are saved by going to FF mirrorless, once you include all the lenses for a decent system. Maybe it is a disappointing end game if the real goal was * large* savings in space and weight.