Off Brand: Nikon Announces the D4S

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<p>Nikon has officially announced the <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1024081-REG/nikon_d4s_digital_slr_camera.html/BI/2466/KBID/3296" target="_blank">D4S flagship camera body</a>. There have been a lot of performance boosts as compared to the D4, such as a “newly designed” 16.2mp sensor, a new EXPEED processor, the ability to get to ISO 409600. There have also been tweaks to video, workflow and autofocus settings, though the AF system has remained the same.</p>
<p><strong>Product Highlights</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>16.2MP FX-Format CMOS Sensor</li>
<li>EXPEED 4 Image Processor</li>
<li>3.2″ LCD Monitor</li>
<li>Full HD 1080p Video Recording at 60 fps</li>
<li>Multi-CAM 3500FX 51-Point AF Sensor</li>
<li>Native ISO 25600, Extended to ISO 409600</li>
<li>11 fps Shooting for 200 Shots with AE/AF</li>
<li>91k-Pixel RGB Sensor and Group Area AF</li>
<li>14-Bit RAW Files and 12-Bit RAW S Format</li>
<li>1000 Base-T Gigabit Wired LAN Support</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>EOS-1D X Replacement?

</strong>Not this year, though I wouldn’t be surprised to see an EOS-1D C replacement. I think the <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/827036-REG/Canon_5253B002_EOS_1D_X_EOS_Digital.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296" target="_blank">EOS-1D X</a> is still a world class capable body and Canon should be in no rush to replace it. Most people I talk to don’t want incremental updates, such as the perception with D4 to the D4S (again, image quality may change that opinion). The EOS-1D X should remain current well into 2015.</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1024081-REG/nikon_d4s_digital_slr_camera.html/BI/2466/KBID/3296" target="_blank">Nikon D4S</a> | <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/827036-REG/Canon_5253B002_EOS_1D_X_EOS_Digital.html/bi/2466/kbid/3296" target="_blank">Canon EOS-1D X</a></strong></p>
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[ajfotofilmagem]

To those who say "Canon is not innovative," can now boast of Nikon innovation with ISO 409600. I do not know what use it but the marketing arrange one.

 

[Viggo]

After two years or whatever and everything updated, except for some video rubbish, it's still a step or two behind the 1dx, well done Canon. When they go all in, it's simply epic...

 

[tiger82]

I'm disappointed that the Nikon D4S is only 16.1MP. I was hoping it would exceed the 1DX with 24MP and put pressure on Canon which would in turn put price pressure on the 1Dx to make it more affordable and certainly downward pressure on the 5D3 and 1D4. Right now, it still looks like Nikon is still playing catch up.

 

[ajfotofilmagem]

I'm disappointed that the Nikon D4S is only 16.1MP. I was hoping it would exceed the 1DX with 24MP and put pressure on Canon which would in turn put price pressure on the 1Dx to make it more affordable and certainly downward pressure on the 5D3 and 1D4. Right now, it still looks like Nikon is still playing catch up.

I do not criticize the fact that "only" 16 megapixels, which is sufficient for the intended use in journalism. In fact, I wish 7D Mark ii had 16 megapixel, and without DPAF to make the most improved noise at ISO 3200.

 

[docsmith]

From what I can see the "big" improvement is in the 1080p @ 60 fps video.

People that can afford to buy the D4S will know that it is how clean the image is at that ISO setting that matters.

...and...of course, we'll have to see what the "new" sensor can do....

I'll be interested in what others see, but I read through this and am mostly "meh"....I mean if someone gave it to me, I'd be happy, but I don't see this one upping the 1DX.

 

[dstppy]

That's it! I'm moving to Nik . . . wait a tick . . . where's the anti-Canon outrage here?

Y'all abandon ship to complain on the Nikon forums? ;D

 

[scyrene]

I seem to be in the minority of people who still get excited by increasing maximum ISO speeds. But can someone explain, why/how is it possible that the difference between maximum base ISO (25600) and extended is 4 stops, whereas in Canon cameras (the 1DX/5D3 at least) it is just 2? Does it make a practical difference? Is it just another means of notating it? In my experience (300D->50D->5D3) the highest usable ISO is 1 stop below maximum base ISO (depending on what you're using it for). So extra extended settings would be irrelevant. Is Nikon different?

 

[AG]

The Hi4 ISO level is not really much more than a gimmick at this stage in the game.
What next? ISO 1Million?

Neither will mean bugger all if they don't have super clean iso above say 1600-3200

But if nothing else we can rest assure that this camera will get a perfect DXOMark score no matter how poorly it performs in real life usage. ???

 

[ajfotofilmagem]

I seem to be in the minority of people who still get excited by increasing maximum ISO speeds. But can someone explain, why/how is it possible that the difference between maximum base ISO (25600) and extended is 4 stops, whereas in Canon cameras (the 1DX/5D3 at least) it is just 2? Does it make a practical difference? Is it just another means of notating it? In my experience (300D->50D->5D3) the highest usable ISO is 1 stop below maximum base ISO (depending on what you're using it for). So extra extended settings would be irrelevant. Is Nikon different?

The range of standard ISO uses real analog signal amplifiers in each stage (100, 200, 400, etc.). The expanded ISO range is the same as Photoshop / Lightroom just pulls exposure digitally generating artifacts and random noise difficult to clean.

 

[canonvoir]

Nikon just gave Canon another 3 years of 1DX ii development.

I read the specs this morning of the Nikon and was very surprised to see I thought my 1DX was still king.

 

[scyrene]

I seem to be in the minority of people who still get excited by increasing maximum ISO speeds. But can someone explain, why/how is it possible that the difference between maximum base ISO (25600) and extended is 4 stops, whereas in Canon cameras (the 1DX/5D3 at least) it is just 2? Does it make a practical difference? Is it just another means of notating it? In my experience (300D->50D->5D3) the highest usable ISO is 1 stop below maximum base ISO (depending on what you're using it for). So extra extended settings would be irrelevant. Is Nikon different?

The range of uses ISO standard real analog signal amplifiers in each stage (100, 200, 400, etc.). The expanded ISO range is the same as Photoshop / Lightroom just pulls exposure digitally generating artifacts and random noise difficult to clean.

I've heard conflicting reports on this - some people say digital amplification is sometimes used within the non-extended range. But if you're correct, there's no advantage to having 4 extended stops over 2, right?

 

[polarhannes]

I'm not really impressed by this announcement.
The 1DX is still far superior.
As other have said, I would have liked to see some pressure on Canon but this announcement is nothing to worry about for them.

 

[poias]

All this fuss about a camera that was made obsolete by 1DX 2 years ago. Nikon will be out of business soon so that all remaining people will be joining the Canon camp and taking pictures with our cameras. I am so proud of our engineers who have given us epic cameras and put these nikonians in their place. By the way, have you seen any pulitzer picture taken with the D4? Yeah, thought so.

 

[Corvi]

All this fuss about a camera that was made obsolete by 1DX 2 years ago. Nikon will be out of business soon so that all remaining people will be joining the Canon camp and taking pictures with our cameras. I am so proud of our engineers who have given us epic cameras and put these nikonians in their place. By the way, have you seen any pulitzer picture taken with the D4? Yeah, thought so.

Oh boy, thats all it takes to win a pulitzer ? Im off buying a 1DX right now, you can check out my picture later this year when i wont the price ..

Na seriously, do you have an idea how many pulitzers where won with cameras that only had a focus ring, aperture ring and shutter speed dial ?

 

[mackguyver]

To those who say "Canon is not innovative," can now boast of Nikon innovation with ISO 409600. I do not know what use it but the marketing arrange one.

That's what caught my eye, too, and as someone who uses ISO 102400 on my 5DIII all the time, I might have to sell all of my Canon gear to get the D4S. I think it will really help with my upcoming series - Coal Mines by Matchlight. If I accidentally run into some methane, this might be my last post

 

[tiger82]

That's what caught my eye, too, and as someone who uses ISO 102400 on my 5DIII all the time, I might have to sell all of my Canon gear to get the D4S. I think it will really help with my upcoming series - Coal Mines by Matchlight. If I accidentally run into some methane, this might be my last post

I thought you were doing A Bat's Eye View series

 

[Maximilian]

To those who say "Canon is not innovative," can now boast of Nikon innovation with ISO 409600. I do not know what use it but the marketing arrange one.

What's the use of ISO 409600 when you can't AF at the light conditions (call it darkness) you want to use that ISO in?
And I don't believe that MF is possible there either, except you have a cat's eyes.

 

[bseitz234]

I thought you were doing A Bat's Eye View series

That's what caught my eye, too, and as someone who uses ISO 102400 on my 5DIII all the time, I might have to sell all of my Canon gear to get the D4S. I think it will really help with my upcoming series - Coal Mines by Matchlight. If I accidentally run into some methane, this might be my last post

Both of these posts made my day, and it's not even noon yet. going to be a good day...

 

[Maximilian]

• 14-Bit RAW Files and 12-Bit RAW S Format

Let's see if DxO can make some 16 steps of DR out of that
(No, I won't take any bets on that)