neuroanatomist said:(since Canon is that leader).
Kodak called and agreed with you.
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neuroanatomist said:(since Canon is that leader).
poias said:Kodak called and agreed with you.neuroanatomist said:(since Canon is that leader).
verysimplejason said:One thing, a wedding photographer might fall in love with this Nikon... Aside from the gorgeous look (a + from the client), they'll appreciate the "less" MP and high ISO performance (based on D4).
J.R. said:Too many posts here praising Nikon for coming out with a camera that is only "good enough". No new tech, menus replaced by dials and knobs with little or no IQ benefits. I thought pure photography was all about th images, not whether I need to turn a dial or access a menu.
Had Canon come out with something similar, it would be accused of milking the same old sensor design, which is exactly what ion is doing and we still get posts such as - Canon where are you?
dilbert said:neuroanatomist said:dilbert said:This is the second non-Canon camera product announcement on a "Canon" website in as many months (previous being Sony.)
That kind of says it all about where Canon's at with its product development, doesn't it?
Indeed.
It says that Canon isn't announcing any developments in a dying market (mirrorless) or a long-dead market (over-priced film dSLRs, albeit with modified innards).
It also says Canon's dSLR lineup is selling well, such that they're not forced to bring out niche products due to an inability to outsell the market leader in the mainstream arena (since Canon is that leader).
I disagree completely with both of your conclusions but not to say that it says the reverse but rather that people are so bored with what Canon are doing that they're looking elsewhere for excitement.
Grumbaki said:verysimplejason said:One thing, a wedding photographer might fall in love with this Nikon... Aside from the gorgeous look (a + from the client), they'll appreciate the "less" MP and high ISO performance (based on D4).
Baffled by this. Did you forget the irony tag?
Clients want the cameras to look "pro" which isn't really, in mainstream, compatible with retro.
verysimplejason said:Grumbaki said:verysimplejason said:One thing, a wedding photographer might fall in love with this Nikon... Aside from the gorgeous look (a + from the client), they'll appreciate the "less" MP and high ISO performance (based on D4).
Baffled by this. Did you forget the irony tag?
Clients want the cameras to look "pro" which isn't really, in mainstream, compatible with retro.
No. I didn't forgot. To qualify, this DF isn't actually smaller than an average DSLR. Just look at the chrome finish and it's really screams "professional".
dilbert said:..people are so bored with what Canon are doing that they're looking elsewhere for excitement
duydaniel said:J.R. said:Too many posts here praising Nikon for coming out with a camera that is only "good enough". No new tech, menus replaced by dials and knobs with little or no IQ benefits. I thought pure photography was all about th images, not whether I need to turn a dial or access a menu.
Had Canon come out with something similar, it would be accused of milking the same old sensor design, which is exactly what ion is doing and we still get posts such as - Canon where are you?
it's D4 sensor we are talking about. ISO goes upto 200k and it will challenge the 1DX in noise performance
Aglet said:This new DF actually looks like a camera design I would ENJOY using, although I'd prefer d800 guts to d4 guts in mine. I LIKE those manual knobs and buttons. They're unambiguous, you can adjust them easily by feel, even with gloves on or while the camera is still powered OFF.
The Df looks like an imaging INSTRUMENT, not a black box of wonders with various goodies buried in menus. The Df is very appealing to the photogs I know because it's causing a more emotional response with them. We don't NEED a Df, we WANT a Df. (or something just like it in the lens mount of your choice)
Grumbaki said:verysimplejason said:Grumbaki said:verysimplejason said:One thing, a wedding photographer might fall in love with this Nikon... Aside from the gorgeous look (a + from the client), they'll appreciate the "less" MP and high ISO performance (based on D4).
Baffled by this. Did you forget the irony tag?
Clients want the cameras to look "pro" which isn't really, in mainstream, compatible with retro.
No. I didn't forgot. To qualify, this DF isn't actually smaller than an average DSLR. Just look at the chrome finish and it's really screams "professional".
Yeah, screams professionnal just like a ducky ties does. I guess it's personnal tastes but I'd bet that a pannel of non photog would rate a 5d3 (or the nikon equivalent) as looking more professional. Specially with a grip, a white lens on or a mammoth like 85L...
dilbert said:
Oh I think it is a dumb move by Nikon but it is also a desperate move to try and create a segment of the market where they don't have any competition from Canon or Sony. I similarly think that the A7 and A7R are a dumb move that will ultimately go nowhere or be confined to shooting with lenses under 100mm in focal length.
Sporgon said:I honestly don't think Canon will feel the need to produce a Df because their dSLR design hasn't gone off the rails like Nikon.