OMG....you always get smited for offering your opinion!

[00Q]

Right, so....Ive discovered that I have been smited like hell....in the same way mosquitos sting you if you walk out into the forest at night. ...

I guess the people who smite me are those who feel insulted because I have not recommended their lenses or bodies in my replies to other people's posts. People smite you because they can't stand their lenses being "unrecommended". Most of the time, thats the only lenses they have and they take it too personally....also I've found that some people can't stand it when others says something negative about Canon.

On this site, by giving your opinion = smite

so.....since I have 120+ smites and only 30+ thumbs up, I cant careless about my reputation, so people go on smite me! Your lenses can be shizzle. Canon can sometimes be shizzle. And your camera bodies are probably need an upgrade.

 

[picturesbyme]

I only posted photos and offered help in the beginning yet I already have more - than + ;D
So somehow I offended some highly intelligent creature's feelings...
This whole karma stuff is pointless and very childish, CR should take it off but since it is entertaining to some I doubt that they will...
Maybe CR guy will order us to stand in the corner after collecting x neg.s
Still I wouldn't worry about it... I certainly won't lose sleep over it....

 

[Terry Rogers]

I wouldn't take it too seriously.

Obvious troll is obvious.

 

[87vr6]

It's like this on every online forum, everywhere... Heaven forbid you tell your honest opinion about something... Now you're a d*ck! People are too soft these days.

 

[distant.star]

Interesting. A couple of posts about this today, at least that I've seen.

My guess is things have quieted down a lot since the 5D3 announce, and there's not much to really talk about.

However, these posts did get me thinking there could be a plot against the applaud/smite nonsense. I guess if enough people handed out "smites" every chance they had, it would cause more dissatisfaction with that system, perhaps generate noisy opposition.

As a disclaimer, that's simply something that crossed my mind. I have no knowledge of such a thing going on, and I'm not advocating for such a thing. Just thinking out loud and wondering.

 

[Marsu42]

However, these posts did get me thinking there could be a plot against the applaud/smite nonsense.

Now I understand my smites ... It's an extremist plot by the "7d Gestapo" and "full-frame KGB" to get rid of democracy ! Well, to be honest I know at least where part of my smites came from, it's just as being always said: voicing an opinion will get you smitten because people confuse it with the "disagree" button.

 

[00Q]

I came back after sleep to check my smites...I only got 2 more smites....

Where are these wossies who smite me all the time???

Where are these noobs who knows nothing about photography and go on this forum and talk about their 18-55 kit lens and 18-135 kit lens and smite me when I say that their lenses are not good enough for good photography???

Where are the noobs who upgrades their bodies from the 450D to the 500D to the 550D to the 600D to the 50D and to the 60D and to the 7D???? Where are you when you smited me when I told you that theres no point in going from the 450D to the 500D and just go straight to FF???

Where are these noob wossies? where are your smites? SMITE ME!! I dont give a flying f*u*c*k* about your smites. HAHAHA you are always a noob that spends £££ and recommends the 18-135 kit lens on this forum!!!!!!


and where are your smites?

 

[KeithR]

I dont give a flying f*u*c*k* about your smites.

Errmmm...

Just for the sake of clarity, you obviously do.

But yes, this is just another demonstration of the infantile pointlessness of "Karma".

 

[marekjoz]

You also might get some smites for something like this:

I'm fed up of reading this forum today and hearing people complaining about the 5DIII pricing. Did you ever think it was going to sell for less than $2500? The prices will be lower when it hits the high street stores when it first comes out. But most importantly,

1) Do you NEED a 5DIII?

if not, shut up.

2) Can you afford a 5DIII now?

if not, shut up.

3) Can you ever afford a 5DIII?

if not, shut up.

4) If you can afford it but are not considering buying it

shut up

5) If you want to buy a 5DIII but will wait for a year when the price drops, then why are you complaining about the prices NOW? It is irrelevant.

shut up

6) If you actually need a 5DIII and really wanted to buy it now for pro use. Well done. You fall into the 5% of population here on this forum. Your opinion and rant is valid.

Everyone else, stop jumping on the bandwagon and stop complaining.

And it's not what you refer to as being smitten for

 

[KeithR]

You also might get some smites for something like this:
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I actually agreed completely with the sentiment behind that post, but its content was an absolute guarantee of bad Karma.

 

[noodles]

On this site, by giving your opinion = smite

On this site you even get a smite when asking very polite for advice in your first post!

I believe some are so disturbed about getting a smite, they just smite everyone that posted in that thread.

O, wait ! Noodles has 0 smites. Let's smite him

 

[P_R]

Hi. Completely agree. I offered my thoughts on camera bags based on my experiences and I think from that I received some negative karma. Same happened with some of my other responses. Thing is, my responses were not critical, sarcastic or offensive. I did not even mention the 7D!

So the whole smite aspect is meaningless when used in such ways. Its abuse renders it of no value, yet it can affect the perception of ones account. Unfortunately I deleted my account out of disgust - a poor move on my part. So I've recreated my account and I'll see how it goes now.

 

[jwong]

Thing is, my responses were not critical, sarcastic or offensive. I did not even mention the 7D!

So the whole smite aspect is meaningless when used in such ways. Its abuse renders it of no value, yet it can affect the perception of ones account. Unfortunately I deleted my account out of disgust - a poor move on my part. So I've recreated my account and I'll see how it goes now.

+1 for hoping you stay in the forum. Don't be discouraged. Just keep in mind that the forum population is not representative of the general public. Most people are happy enough with the camera gear they have; those in the forum tend to be avid hobbyists and pros. Open ended questions about gear selection will naturally tend to the most expensive options when budgets are not given. That said, there are people who are very helpful and give good advice. They don't have to spend their time helping others in the forum, but they do.

 

[bycostello]

i'd not let it get you down... too many anoracks worrying about meaningless technicalities than going and taking great images...

 

[D_Rochat]

The OP shows up as a guest now so they must have deleted their account. I'm sure this is what CR envisioned with implementing the karma system........

 

[TexPhoto]

You can't be overly sensitive about that stuff. One person can smite you very 2 hours indefinitely on the same post. So there is no winning. And of course you can make 2+ accounts and applaud your self as well.

I'd love to see the ratio of smites to applause given by a person...

 

[Admin US West]

The OP shows up as a guest now so they must have deleted their account. I'm sure this is what CR envisioned with implementing the karma system........

CR did not delete him, I rather ebjoyed his posts. I checked the log, he deleted his account)

Bans get issued for spammers, and for making unacceptable comments about other members. If a member has been making reasonable posts, I usually just remove a post that is out of bounds, but I also issue warnings, 10 day bans, and complete bans.

Right now, we have had more trolls than usual that apparently just signed up to make stupid comments, they might be banned immediately. This sometimes quickly spreads to a flame war. Don't respond to a stupid post by calling the poster names, I know its hard, but I can cause things to get out of control quickly, thats why lots of deleted threads and posts happen.

 

[marekjoz]

The OP shows up as a guest now so they must have deleted their account. I'm sure this is what CR envisioned with implementing the karma system........

CR did not delete him, I rather ebjoyed his posts. I checked the log, he deleted his account)

Bans get issued for spammers, and for making unacceptable comments about other members. If a member has been making reasonable posts, I usually just remove a post that is out of bounds, but I also issue warnings, 10 day bans, and complete bans.

Right now, we have had more trolls than usual that apparently just signed up to make stupid comments, they might be banned immediately. This sometimes quickly spreads to a flame war. Don't respond to a stupid post by calling the poster names, I know its hard, but I can cause things to get out of control quickly, thats why lots of deleted threads and posts happen.

@scaleusa - as we're talking about karma here, what's the reason you've got so much negative karma? You're not offensive, etc. If admins collect it so much, then maybe there's something wrong with it from start?

 

[Marsu42]

@scaleusa - as we're talking about karma here, what's the reason you've got so much negative karma? You're not offensive, etc. If admins collect it so much, then maybe there's something wrong with it from start?

How about a new poll, but this time with constructive alternatives like replacing the negative karma system with a) a simple, positive system that cannot be confused with "agree" or "disagree" and/or b) a real rating system for individual posts that shows who agreed/disagreed?

 

[Admin US West]

@scaleusa - as we're talking about karma here, what's the reason you've got so much negative karma? You're not offensive, etc. If admins collect it so much, then maybe there's something wrong with it from start?

As administrator, I've had to do some unpopular things, like giving warnings, bans, etc. Undoubtedly some of those start giving smites whenever they can. It comes with the territory.

Unfortunately, the Karma system is not very flexible, and modifying it requires third party software which might make us venurable to hacking, or just plain be incompatible. So, its all or nothing.